web browsers?

ninjaprawn · 2008-05-17 17:17:30

hi,

im trying to find a decent web browser! im using opera-devel, works does everything i want, but slowly, and by eating up all my resources! i have only found 1 bug in it, so it being in 'unstable' doesnt bother me! but it is hugely faster than firefox 2, and i havent got rounf to ff3 yet!

after a little research, i like the sound of the webkit framework, but cant find any decent browsers that use it!!

i want to find something that has no kde or gnome dependancies! run flash and java and is not text based!

any ideas? they would be appreciated! thanks.

Gruntz · 2008-05-17 17:20:38

Hi there.

I am not sure that it will help you, because I have tested it a long time ago, but there is a web browser called dillo. It is very suitable for computers with low resources.

Regards.

ninjaprawn · 2008-05-17 17:33:31

ive used it before, im looking for something a little heavier than that.

im running a celeron 1.8GHz with 512meg ram and geforce 6. not great. i just want something a little snappier!

thanks

skottish · 2008-05-17 17:37:39

Kazehakase is pretty good. The build in the repos isn't webkit, but it's lightweight and fast.

ProzacR · 2008-05-17 17:39:55

Not Firefox not Opera?
So maybe Konqueror?

ninjaprawn · 2008-05-17 18:06:44

ive never liked konwueror, even wen i used kde! nothing against it at all, i like it for file browsing, but not web! its also kde dependant, which im trying to get away from!

Kazehakase is exactly wot im looking for!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! just installed it and thats it! thanks skottish!

_Marco_ · 2008-05-17 18:07:14

epiphany is quite light...

fuscia · 2008-05-17 18:54:58

_Marco_ wrote:

epiphany is quite light...

doesn't it depend on some gnome stuff?

edit: xulrunner>=1.8.1.12 gnome-desktop>=2.22.0 iso-codes>=1.1 desktop-file-utils libxslt>=1.1.22 enchant>=1.3.0 libnotify>=0.4.3

Last edited by fuscia (2008-05-17 18:56:12)

hennes · 2008-05-17 19:06:12

Midori and Skipstone might be desktop independent alternatives. Last time I used them the functionality was rather sparse compared to Opera/Firefox, but that might have changed.

dunc · 2008-05-17 23:43:19

Opera shouldn't be that slow or resource-heavy. I recently installed it on a 600MHz Celeron, 400-odd K, ATI r128, and it's perfectly acceptable. (Yes, it goes against the grain to use proprietary software, but hey... with that setup I'll take whatever works. Firefox, even 3, was slow.)

alex_anthony · 2008-05-18 00:22:48

midori is OK atm, but it annoyed me that ctrl-click didnt work to open in a new tab and there isn't much beyond the basic browser yet.
But its fast and light.

SpookyET · 2008-05-18 02:34:17

Try my optimised firefox

ninjaprawn · 2008-05-18 08:40:13

epiphany was ruled out straight away for exactly the reason fuscia pointed out! opera is fine, but has not flash or java, opera-devel is fine just a little slow wen im doing more than one thing on my pc, which is 90% of the time!

kasehakase seems like a rebuild of firefox! but the genious that built it got rid of all the stuff not needed, and its just a web browser, that only does wot i want!!

konqueror was pretty much wot i was lookin for, as it uses the webkit, like safari as its framework, but i cant use either as konqueror requires kde, and safari hasnt been ported to *nix yet! and has errors thru wine!

kasehakase for now, and im happy with it!

bgc1954 · 2008-05-18 13:43:32

If you haven't already seen it, this post is what I use to keep Kazehakase's cache from filling up my hard drive as it doesn't clean up after itself very well: http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2007/03/22 … azehakase/

The only thing, for me, that's missing in Kazehakase is an indicator showing the progress of downloads--unless someone knows some trick or workaround???

Last edited by bgc1954 (2008-05-18 14:08:57)

ninjaprawn · 2008-05-18 14:36:40

thanks...

only problem is im not 100% sure how to use the bash script! i understand what it does, but im guessing i need to paste the below code into a file and save it somewhere specific?

#!/bin/sh
kazehakase
rm ~/.kazehakase/mozilla/kazehakase/cookies.txt
rm ~/.kazehakase/mozilla/kazehakase/Cache/*
cp ~/.kazehakase/kzrc.orig ~/.kazehakase/kzrc

xd-0 · 2008-05-18 14:53:27

You save the script as a file then make it executable (chmod +x script.sh). Then instead of starting kazehakase directly, you use this script to start it, as it also cleans the cache.
You can ad this entry in your menu ./path/to/the/script.sh (or edit the current kazehakase entry).

ninjaprawn · 2008-05-18 15:03:30

thanks

ninjaprawn · 2008-05-18 17:06:41

i changed my general.useragent.extra.kazehakase to firefox 2.0, but wen i restart it, it has reverted back to the default! how do i stop that from happening??

bgc1954 · 2008-05-19 15:50:20

Ahem ... It's probably due to the line in your script "cp ~/.kazehakase/kzrc.orig ~/.kazehakase/kzrc" as every time you stop kazekahase the script replaces the kzrc file and any changes you have made will not be saved. That line is there to clear out your history as it is stored in the kzrc file but it would also contain any changes made during your session. You just need to run kazehakase and check your kzrc before you quit and copy the relevant section to your kzrc.orig file--at least that's what I'm thinking is happening.

Edit: I wasn't actually on my Archbox when I answered this post. After looking at the kzrc.orig file now, if you change the [Global] overrride_user_agent=true and add user_agent=Firefox/2.0 the change will stick.

Last edited by bgc1954 (2008-05-19 17:34:54)

ScriptDevil · 2008-05-19 16:18:19

There is this browser called skipstone which is based on webkit. http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=16689

ninjaprawn · 2008-05-19 18:51:34

bgc1954 wrote:

Ahem ... It's probably due to the line in your script "cp ~/.kazehakase/kzrc.orig ~/.kazehakase/kzrc" as every time you stop kazekahase the script replaces the kzrc file and any changes you have made will not be saved. That line is there to clear out your history as it is stored in the kzrc file but it would also contain any changes made during your session. You just need to run kazehakase and check your kzrc before you quit and copy the relevant section to your kzrc.orig file--at least that's what I'm thinking is happening.
Edit: I wasn't actually on my Archbox when I answered this post. After looking at the kzrc.orig file now, if you change the [Global] overrride_user_agent=true and add user_agent=Firefox/2.0 the change will stick.

didnt work, id already tried that to! when i set override_user_agent=true, the 1st time i start up kazehakase, general.useragent.extra.kazehakase is blank, then if i close it again and start it, the entry doesnt exist at all!!

it doesnt make any difference what i do with user_agent=

i even tried without using the script, just by running kazehakase!
i ran kazehakase without the script, changed general.useragent.extra.kazehakase to firefox/2.0
then closed and ran kazehakase, and it had changed back to default!

Last edited by ninjaprawn (2008-05-19 18:56:01)

bgc1954 · 2008-05-19 19:25:39

Hmmmm....it works for me but you are correct in that the general.useragent.extra disappears after you put in the override_user_agent=true. Is the reason you want to rename useragent so that websites think you are running Firefox instead of not recognizing the browser??

Actually you have to add the override and name in both the krzc and krzc.orig or else you have to start up kazehakase a couple of times for the change to stick. I tried on westjet.com and before the override and rename, westjet didn't recognize the browser and after the override and rename it did.

ninjaprawn · 2008-05-19 19:54:30

bgc1954 wrote:

Hmmmm....it works for me but you are correct in that the general.useragent.extra disappears after you put in the override_user_agent=true. Is the reason you want to rename useragent so that websites think you are running Firefox instead of not recognizing the browser??

yep, it picks up kazehakase, but when i change the useragent in about:config, websites think im using firefox.

Actually you have to add the override and name in both the krzc and krzc.orig or else you have to start up kazehakase a couple of times for the change to stick. I tried on westjet.com and before the override and rename, westjet didn't recognize the browser and after the override and rename it did.

i added to both krzc and krzc.orig, restarted the browser, and still didnt work!! i even went into about:config, added the attribute general.useragent.extra.kazehakase and set it to firefox/2.0, restarted the browser, and it had lost it again!

bgc1954 · 2008-05-19 20:38:03

That's definitely strange--works here. Almost sounds like a permission problem with .kazehakase/kzrc and kzrc.orig files. For some reason kazehakase isn't reading those files correctly. Maybe even try deleting the .kazehakase folder and running it again to recreate it and start over. Sometimes that helps with strange stuff.

cuervo · 2008-05-19 20:44:11

@spookyET

I've always found firefox a rather slothful creature...no longer!
Max kudos ... great build sir! Outrunning the hounds.

thanks:D

[asus W3n, 25-3.1 kernel]

Arch Linux

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