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#1 2008-05-20 16:20:33

axion419
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HD Grinds When i hit 'enter' or 'backspace' - XFS issue?

I have had the same sata drive for a few years now, and i install and reinstall all the time, so I may have just worn teh drive out.  But, i recently tried using the XFS file system, and now when i hit my enter key or the backspace key on the keyboard the drive grinds and grinds and the PC almost locks up, it will then stop after a minute, and everyhting is back to normal, could this be a XFS issue, or probably bad hardware? htop shows my cores as only be 0-1% used, and ram is only using 54mb - so Its a nice system with no real stress on it.  If there is anysort of 'spinrite' program for linux, I could try testing the drive, but I have only found a dd'something' program, and Im not sure if its what im looking for.  Any ideas or thoughts would be awesome, im strapped for cash, so I hope its not the drive smile

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#2 2008-05-20 17:39:03

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Re: HD Grinds When i hit 'enter' or 'backspace' - XFS issue?

Install smartmontools and paste the output of smartctl -a /dev/sda.

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#3 2008-05-20 17:57:15

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Re: HD Grinds When i hit 'enter' or 'backspace' - XFS issue?

alright I will do that when i get off work ( 5pm est)

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#4 2008-05-20 21:17:07

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Re: HD Grinds When i hit 'enter' or 'backspace' - XFS issue?

alright I installed, and enabled 'smart' (whatever that is smile ) and then ran a short self test, then ran the command you had posted.  Here are the outputs.

justin ~ $  sudo smartctl --log=selftest /dev/sdb

smartctl version 5.37 [i686-pc-linux-gnu] Copyright (C) 2002-6 Bruce Allen
Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1
Num  Test_Description    Status                  Remaining  LifeTime(hours)  LBA_of_first_error
# 1  Short offline       Completed without error       00%     14568         -

sudo smartctl -a /dev/sdb

smartctl version 5.37 [i686-pc-linux-gnu] Copyright (C) 2002-6 Bruce Allen
Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Model Family:     Seagate Barracuda 7200.8 family
Device Model:     ST3250823AS
Serial Number:    5ND0H7BX
Firmware Version: 3.03
User Capacity:    250,058,268,160 bytes
Device is:        In smartctl database [for details use: -P show]
ATA Version is:   7
ATA Standard is:  Exact ATA specification draft version not indicated
Local Time is:    Tue May 20 17:38:21 2008 EDT
SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support is: Enabled

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED

General SMART Values:
Offline data collection status:  (0x82)    Offline data collection activity
                    was completed without error.
                    Auto Offline Data Collection: Enabled.
Self-test execution status:      (   0)    The previous self-test routine completed
                    without error or no self-test has ever 
                    been run.
Total time to complete Offline 
data collection:          ( 430) seconds.
Offline data collection
capabilities:              (0x5b) SMART execute Offline immediate.
                    Auto Offline data collection on/off support.
                    Suspend Offline collection upon new
                    command.
                    Offline surface scan supported.
                    Self-test supported.
                    No Conveyance Self-test supported.
                    Selective Self-test supported.
SMART capabilities:            (0x0003)    Saves SMART data before entering
                    power-saving mode.
                    Supports SMART auto save timer.
Error logging capability:        (0x01)    Error logging supported.
                    General Purpose Logging supported.
Short self-test routine 
recommended polling time:      (   1) minutes.
Extended self-test routine
recommended polling time:      (  84) minutes.

SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 10
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME          FLAG     VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE      UPDATED  WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
  1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate     0x000f   053   047   006    Pre-fail  Always       -       231310844
  3 Spin_Up_Time            0x0003   099   098   000    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
  4 Start_Stop_Count        0x0032   100   100   020    Old_age   Always       -       163
  5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   100   100   036    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
  7 Seek_Error_Rate         0x000f   088   060   030    Pre-fail  Always       -       784831267
  9 Power_On_Hours          0x0032   084   084   000    Old_age   Always       -       14568
 10 Spin_Retry_Count        0x0013   100   100   097    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
 12 Power_Cycle_Count       0x0032   100   100   020    Old_age   Always       -       169
194 Temperature_Celsius     0x0022   027   051   000    Old_age   Always       -       27 (Lifetime Min/Max 0/10)
195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered  0x001a   053   046   000    Old_age   Always       -       231310844
197 Current_Pending_Sector  0x0012   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
198 Offline_Uncorrectable   0x0010   100   100   000    Old_age   Offline      -       0
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count    0x003e   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate   0x0000   100   253   000    Old_age   Offline      -       0
202 TA_Increase_Count       0x0032   100   253   000    Old_age   Always       -       0

SMART Error Log Version: 1
ATA Error Count: 88 (device log contains only the most recent five errors)
    CR = Command Register [HEX]
    FR = Features Register [HEX]
    SC = Sector Count Register [HEX]
    SN = Sector Number Register [HEX]
    CL = Cylinder Low Register [HEX]
    CH = Cylinder High Register [HEX]
    DH = Device/Head Register [HEX]
    DC = Device Command Register [HEX]
    ER = Error register [HEX]
    ST = Status register [HEX]
Powered_Up_Time is measured from power on, and printed as
DDd+hh:mm:SS.sss where DD=days, hh=hours, mm=minutes,
SS=sec, and sss=millisec. It "wraps" after 49.710 days.

Error 88 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 13519 hours (563 days + 7 hours)
  When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle.

  After command completion occurred, registers were:
  ER ST SC SN CL CH DH
  -- -- -- -- -- -- --
  10 51 01 2e 51 1c ed

  Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
  CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC   Powered_Up_Time  Command/Feature_Name
  -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --  ----------------  --------------------
  37 00 01 2e 51 1c ed 00   1d+05:11:07.877  SET MAX ADDRESS EXT
  27 00 00 2e 51 1c e0 00   1d+05:10:58.895  READ NATIVE MAX ADDRESS EXT
  37 00 00 2e 51 1c ed 00   1d+05:10:58.861  SET MAX ADDRESS EXT
  27 00 01 2e 51 1c e0 00   1d+05:10:58.861  READ NATIVE MAX ADDRESS EXT
  37 00 01 2e 51 1c ed 00   1d+05:10:58.832  SET MAX ADDRESS EXT

Error 87 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 13519 hours (563 days + 7 hours)
  When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle.

  After command completion occurred, registers were:
  ER ST SC SN CL CH DH
  -- -- -- -- -- -- --
  10 51 01 2e 51 1c ed

  Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
  CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC   Powered_Up_Time  Command/Feature_Name
  -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --  ----------------  --------------------
  37 00 01 2e 51 1c ed 00   1d+05:11:07.877  SET MAX ADDRESS EXT
  27 00 00 2e 51 1c e0 00   1d+05:10:58.895  READ NATIVE MAX ADDRESS EXT
  37 00 00 2e 51 1c ed 00   1d+05:10:58.861  SET MAX ADDRESS EXT
  27 00 01 6f 59 1c e0 00   1d+05:10:58.861  READ NATIVE MAX ADDRESS EXT
  29 00 01 6f 59 1c e0 00   1d+05:10:58.832  READ MULTIPLE EXT

Error 86 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 13519 hours (563 days + 7 hours)
  When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle.

  After command completion occurred, registers were:
  ER ST SC SN CL CH DH
  -- -- -- -- -- -- --
  10 51 01 2e 51 1c ed

  Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
  CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC   Powered_Up_Time  Command/Feature_Name
  -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --  ----------------  --------------------
  37 00 01 2e 51 1c ed 00   1d+05:10:38.111  SET MAX ADDRESS EXT
  27 00 00 2e 51 1c e0 00   1d+05:10:45.213  READ NATIVE MAX ADDRESS EXT
  37 00 00 2e 51 1c ed 00   1d+05:10:45.213  SET MAX ADDRESS EXT
  27 00 01 2e 51 1c e0 00   1d+05:10:45.086  READ NATIVE MAX ADDRESS EXT
  37 00 01 2e 51 1c ed 00   1d+05:10:45.086  SET MAX ADDRESS EXT

Error 85 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 13519 hours (563 days + 7 hours)
  When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle.

  After command completion occurred, registers were:
  ER ST SC SN CL CH DH
  -- -- -- -- -- -- --
  10 51 01 2e 51 1c ed

  Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
  CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC   Powered_Up_Time  Command/Feature_Name
  -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --  ----------------  --------------------
  37 00 01 2e 51 1c ed 00   1d+05:10:38.111  SET MAX ADDRESS EXT
  27 00 00 2e 51 1c e0 00   1d+05:10:38.111  READ NATIVE MAX ADDRESS EXT
  37 00 00 2e 51 1c ed 00   1d+05:10:37.621  SET MAX ADDRESS EXT
  27 00 01 6f 59 1c e0 00   1d+05:10:37.621  READ NATIVE MAX ADDRESS EXT
  29 00 01 6f 59 1c e0 00   1d+05:10:37.620  READ MULTIPLE EXT

Error 84 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 13504 hours (562 days + 16 hours)
  When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle.

  After command completion occurred, registers were:
  ER ST SC SN CL CH DH
  -- -- -- -- -- -- --
  10 51 01 2e 51 1c ed

  Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
  CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC   Powered_Up_Time  Command/Feature_Name
  -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --  ----------------  --------------------
  37 00 01 2e 51 1c ed 00      14:08:10.847  SET MAX ADDRESS EXT
  27 00 00 2e 51 1c e0 00      14:08:10.720  READ NATIVE MAX ADDRESS EXT
  37 00 00 2e 51 1c ed 00      14:08:10.720  SET MAX ADDRESS EXT
  27 00 01 2e 51 1c e0 00      14:08:10.504  READ NATIVE MAX ADDRESS EXT
  37 00 01 2e 51 1c ed 00      14:08:10.503  SET MAX ADDRESS EXT

SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1
Num  Test_Description    Status                  Remaining  LifeTime(hours)  LBA_of_first_error
# 1  Short offline       Completed without error       00%     14568         -

SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1
 SPAN  MIN_LBA  MAX_LBA  CURRENT_TEST_STATUS
    1        0        0  Not_testing
    2        0        0  Not_testing
    3        0        0  Not_testing
    4        0        0  Not_testing
    5        0        0  Not_testing
Selective self-test flags (0x0):
  After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk.
If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute delay.

sudo grep sdb /etc/fstab

/dev/sdb1 /boot ext2 defaults 0 1
/dev/sdb2 swap swap defaults 0 0
/dev/sdb3 / xfs defaults 0 1
/dev/sdb4 /home xfs defaults 0 1

If you need me to run any other commands etc, I can do that no problem. I am running a long test now, and will post its results when I go home for lunch.

Last edited by axion419 (2008-05-21 13:22:42)

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#5 2008-05-21 21:22:48

axion419
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Posts: 185

Re: HD Grinds When i hit 'enter' or 'backspace' - XFS issue?

Alright I ran a long test, and then reran your command.


justin ~ $  sudo smartctl --log selftest /dev/sdb

smartctl version 5.37 [i686-pc-linux-gnu] Copyright (C) 2002-6 Bruce Allen
Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1
Num  Test_Description    Status                  Remaining  LifeTime(hours)  LBA_of_first_error
# 1  Extended offline    Completed without error       00%     14570         -
# 2  Short offline       Completed without error       00%     14568         -

sudo smartctl -a /dev/sdb

smartctl version 5.37 [i686-pc-linux-gnu] Copyright (C) 2002-6 Bruce Allen
Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Model Family:     Seagate Barracuda 7200.8 family
Device Model:     ST3250823AS
Serial Number:    5ND0H7BX
Firmware Version: 3.03
User Capacity:    250,058,268,160 bytes
Device is:        In smartctl database [for details use: -P show]
ATA Version is:   7
ATA Standard is:  Exact ATA specification draft version not indicated
Local Time is:    Wed May 21 17:19:43 2008 EDT
SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support is: Enabled

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED

General SMART Values:
Offline data collection status:  (0x82)    Offline data collection activity
                    was completed without error.
                    Auto Offline Data Collection: Enabled.
Self-test execution status:      (   0)    The previous self-test routine completed
                    without error or no self-test has ever 
                    been run.
Total time to complete Offline 
data collection:          ( 430) seconds.
Offline data collection
capabilities:              (0x5b) SMART execute Offline immediate.
                    Auto Offline data collection on/off support.
                    Suspend Offline collection upon new
                    command.
                    Offline surface scan supported.
                    Self-test supported.
                    No Conveyance Self-test supported.
                    Selective Self-test supported.
SMART capabilities:            (0x0003)    Saves SMART data before entering
                    power-saving mode.
                    Supports SMART auto save timer.
Error logging capability:        (0x01)    Error logging supported.
                    General Purpose Logging supported.
Short self-test routine 
recommended polling time:      (   1) minutes.
Extended self-test routine
recommended polling time:      (  84) minutes.

SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 10
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME          FLAG     VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE      UPDATED  WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
  1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate     0x000f   051   047   006    Pre-fail  Always       -       25464121
  3 Spin_Up_Time            0x0003   099   098   000    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
  4 Start_Stop_Count        0x0032   100   100   020    Old_age   Always       -       163
  5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   100   100   036    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
  7 Seek_Error_Rate         0x000f   088   060   030    Pre-fail  Always       -       787170880
  9 Power_On_Hours          0x0032   084   084   000    Old_age   Always       -       14591
 10 Spin_Retry_Count        0x0013   100   100   097    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
 12 Power_Cycle_Count       0x0032   100   100   020    Old_age   Always       -       169
194 Temperature_Celsius     0x0022   028   051   000    Old_age   Always       -       28 (Lifetime Min/Max 0/10)
195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered  0x001a   051   046   000    Old_age   Always       -       25464121
197 Current_Pending_Sector  0x0012   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
198 Offline_Uncorrectable   0x0010   100   100   000    Old_age   Offline      -       0
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count    0x003e   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate   0x0000   100   253   000    Old_age   Offline      -       0
202 TA_Increase_Count       0x0032   100   253   000    Old_age   Always       -       0

SMART Error Log Version: 1
ATA Error Count: 88 (device log contains only the most recent five errors)
    CR = Command Register [HEX]
    FR = Features Register [HEX]
    SC = Sector Count Register [HEX]
    SN = Sector Number Register [HEX]
    CL = Cylinder Low Register [HEX]
    CH = Cylinder High Register [HEX]
    DH = Device/Head Register [HEX]
    DC = Device Command Register [HEX]
    ER = Error register [HEX]
    ST = Status register [HEX]
Powered_Up_Time is measured from power on, and printed as
DDd+hh:mm:SS.sss where DD=days, hh=hours, mm=minutes,
SS=sec, and sss=millisec. It "wraps" after 49.710 days.

Error 88 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 13519 hours (563 days + 7 hours)
  When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle.

  After command completion occurred, registers were:
  ER ST SC SN CL CH DH
  -- -- -- -- -- -- --
  10 51 01 2e 51 1c ed

  Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
  CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC   Powered_Up_Time  Command/Feature_Name
  -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --  ----------------  --------------------
  37 00 01 2e 51 1c ed 00   1d+05:11:07.877  SET MAX ADDRESS EXT
  27 00 00 2e 51 1c e0 00   1d+05:10:58.895  READ NATIVE MAX ADDRESS EXT
  37 00 00 2e 51 1c ed 00   1d+05:10:58.861  SET MAX ADDRESS EXT
  27 00 01 2e 51 1c e0 00   1d+05:10:58.861  READ NATIVE MAX ADDRESS EXT
  37 00 01 2e 51 1c ed 00   1d+05:10:58.832  SET MAX ADDRESS EXT

Error 87 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 13519 hours (563 days + 7 hours)
  When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle.

  After command completion occurred, registers were:
  ER ST SC SN CL CH DH
  -- -- -- -- -- -- --
  10 51 01 2e 51 1c ed

  Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
  CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC   Powered_Up_Time  Command/Feature_Name
  -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --  ----------------  --------------------
  37 00 01 2e 51 1c ed 00   1d+05:11:07.877  SET MAX ADDRESS EXT
  27 00 00 2e 51 1c e0 00   1d+05:10:58.895  READ NATIVE MAX ADDRESS EXT
  37 00 00 2e 51 1c ed 00   1d+05:10:58.861  SET MAX ADDRESS EXT
  27 00 01 6f 59 1c e0 00   1d+05:10:58.861  READ NATIVE MAX ADDRESS EXT
  29 00 01 6f 59 1c e0 00   1d+05:10:58.832  READ MULTIPLE EXT

Error 86 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 13519 hours (563 days + 7 hours)
  When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle.

  After command completion occurred, registers were:
  ER ST SC SN CL CH DH
  -- -- -- -- -- -- --
  10 51 01 2e 51 1c ed

  Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
  CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC   Powered_Up_Time  Command/Feature_Name
  -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --  ----------------  --------------------
  37 00 01 2e 51 1c ed 00   1d+05:10:38.111  SET MAX ADDRESS EXT
  27 00 00 2e 51 1c e0 00   1d+05:10:45.213  READ NATIVE MAX ADDRESS EXT
  37 00 00 2e 51 1c ed 00   1d+05:10:45.213  SET MAX ADDRESS EXT
  27 00 01 2e 51 1c e0 00   1d+05:10:45.086  READ NATIVE MAX ADDRESS EXT
  37 00 01 2e 51 1c ed 00   1d+05:10:45.086  SET MAX ADDRESS EXT

Error 85 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 13519 hours (563 days + 7 hours)
  When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle.

  After command completion occurred, registers were:
  ER ST SC SN CL CH DH
  -- -- -- -- -- -- --
  10 51 01 2e 51 1c ed

  Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
  CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC   Powered_Up_Time  Command/Feature_Name
  -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --  ----------------  --------------------
  37 00 01 2e 51 1c ed 00   1d+05:10:38.111  SET MAX ADDRESS EXT
  27 00 00 2e 51 1c e0 00   1d+05:10:38.111  READ NATIVE MAX ADDRESS EXT
  37 00 00 2e 51 1c ed 00   1d+05:10:37.621  SET MAX ADDRESS EXT
  27 00 01 6f 59 1c e0 00   1d+05:10:37.621  READ NATIVE MAX ADDRESS EXT
  29 00 01 6f 59 1c e0 00   1d+05:10:37.620  READ MULTIPLE EXT

Error 84 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 13504 hours (562 days + 16 hours)
  When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle.

  After command completion occurred, registers were:
  ER ST SC SN CL CH DH
  -- -- -- -- -- -- --
  10 51 01 2e 51 1c ed

  Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
  CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC   Powered_Up_Time  Command/Feature_Name
  -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --  ----------------  --------------------
  37 00 01 2e 51 1c ed 00      14:08:10.847  SET MAX ADDRESS EXT
  27 00 00 2e 51 1c e0 00      14:08:10.720  READ NATIVE MAX ADDRESS EXT
  37 00 00 2e 51 1c ed 00      14:08:10.720  SET MAX ADDRESS EXT
  27 00 01 2e 51 1c e0 00      14:08:10.504  READ NATIVE MAX ADDRESS EXT
  37 00 01 2e 51 1c ed 00      14:08:10.503  SET MAX ADDRESS EXT

SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1
Num  Test_Description    Status                  Remaining  LifeTime(hours)  LBA_of_first_error
# 1  Extended offline    Completed without error       00%     14570         -
# 2  Short offline       Completed without error       00%     14568         -

SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1
 SPAN  MIN_LBA  MAX_LBA  CURRENT_TEST_STATUS
    1        0        0  Not_testing
    2        0        0  Not_testing
    3        0        0  Not_testing
    4        0        0  Not_testing
    5        0        0  Not_testing
Selective self-test flags (0x0):
  After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk.
If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute delay.

Hope that helps.

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#6 2008-06-06 10:58:27

QuimaxW
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From: Waukesha, WI
Registered: 2006-12-03
Posts: 206

Re: HD Grinds When i hit 'enter' or 'backspace' - XFS issue?

Noting that this is a Seagate, I've had really good luck with the Seagate linux diagnostic tools. www.seagate.com

You could also try a dmesg |grep sda (or something like that) and see if anything really bad shows up there.

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