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LTSmash

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Frozen ArchLinux (Regular Release System)

As readed here:

http://useopensource.blogspot.com/2008/ … edule.html

I think that Mark Shuttleworth got a point, and seing how Arch is a rolling release system we could not adapt to that.

But what if someone decided to "freeze" Arch in one point (like the installing ISO's) including the whole repos, and then just making bug fixes?

What I want to tell is that Arch could also get in sync somehow with the proposed sheduling for all the mayor distrbutions, having additional benefits like stability (by removing the cutting-edge/rolling release factors), compatibility/interoperatibility, and other benefits told by mark.

NOTE: I'm not asking to change Arch philosofy, but to make an alternative release form.

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ighea

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Re: Frozen ArchLinux (Regular Release System)

That's a hell lot of unneeded work. If *you* would like to do it fine then.

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LTSmash

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Re: Frozen ArchLinux (Regular Release System)

That's a hell lot of unneeded work. If *you* would like to do it fine then.

Well, actually I wasn't asking Arch Devs to do it, but I was asking for feedback in the idea so maybe if people like it we can arrange a team to do that.

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_Marco_

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Re: Frozen ArchLinux (Regular Release System)

I think arch is perfect as it is... rolling release simply rocks.
but exist a project that is doing something similar..
take a look at:
http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=41764

phrakture

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Re: Frozen ArchLinux (Regular Release System)

Take a look here:
http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_Linux_Stable

I'm not sure what happened to this project.

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LTSmash

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Re: Frozen ArchLinux (Regular Release System)

Take a look here:
http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_Linux_Stable

I'm not sure what happened to this project.

Seems inactive since March... but I would be glad if the inactivity is confirmed to make a new team to "continue" this proyect...

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finferflu

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Re: Frozen ArchLinux (Regular Release System)

I bet the best thing to do is to contact them on IRC in #archlinux-stable at irc.freenode.net.

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LTSmash

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Re: Frozen ArchLinux (Regular Release System)

I bet the best thing to do is to contact them on IRC in #archlinux-stable at irc.freenode.net.

Dead.

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Allan

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Re: Frozen ArchLinux (Regular Release System)

Dead.

Well, at least it got a lot further than any other attempt at this...  I think it shows that people do not realize just how much work is required in maintaining a distro.

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LTSmash

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Re: Frozen ArchLinux (Regular Release System)

Dead.

Well, at least it got a lot further than any other attempt at this...  I think it shows that people do not realize just how much work is required in maintaining a distro.

Maybe, but this could be done with some good organization and a nice team.

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Gullible Jones

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Re: Frozen ArchLinux (Regular Release System)

What's the need for a cyclical process, other than to conform to Shuttleworth's (IMHO kind of ridiculous) idea for a cyclical process?

thisllub

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Re: Frozen ArchLinux (Regular Release System)

Shuttleworth's idea might be good for stability but it would probably be poor for diversity.

I like things the way they are.

mintcoffee

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Re: Frozen ArchLinux (Regular Release System)

Well regular releases have worked well with the Eclipse IDE project for example. I think it is VERY good for system stability if certain aspects of the OS was released in sync. For example, I encountered problems with the new version of udev, and the hardware libraries not updating for certain deprecated elements.

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inf

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Re: Frozen ArchLinux (Regular Release System)

Well, personally i don't like this idea.

I have tested ubuntu every time new release comes out. And the thing i hate most (after the bloatnes of the system) is the packages and this cycling release system. I kind a hate the way that ubuntu deals with packages...just releasing bugfixes. In 6months many packages get many new versions, and when the new version of Ubuntu is out, those packages are already outdated.

I haven't had any problems with Arch and it's rolling-release system, so I think ubuntu is just "paranoid" about stability in a way.