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#1 2008-06-14 16:23:01

phisphere
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From: Tallinn, Estonia
Registered: 2007-03-05
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Very slow (almost none) 3D Acceleration with current Nvidia driver

Hi,

I'm having a problem on my Vostro 1400 with Nvidia M8400GS graphics card. The thing is that I don't have 3D acceleration to run compiz or 3D games (Urban Terror). Well, I can run GLXgears and start up Urban Terror, but the performance in UT is very slow (unplayable) even in the main menu - the sound is laggin etc). Even if I run Xcompmgr, the performance is very bad. I have had this issue almost a year now under Arch and I haven't found any solution to this problem.

Currently I'm running Nvidia driver from the extra repo version 169.12-4.
I also have enabled nvidia-xconfig --composite option to my xorg.conf file.

Here is my xorg.conf file:

# nvidia-xconfig: X configuration file generated by nvidia-xconfig
# nvidia-xconfig:  version 1.0  (buildmeister@builder3)  Thu Feb 14 18:20:37 PST 2008

Section "ServerLayout"
    Identifier     "X.org Configured"
    Screen      0  "Screen0" 0 0
    InputDevice    "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
    InputDevice    "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection

Section "Files"
    RgbPath         "/usr/share/X11/rgb"
    ModulePath      "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
    FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/misc"
    FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi:unscaled"
    FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi:unscaled"
    FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/TTF"
    FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/Type1"
EndSection

Section "Module"
    Load           "dbe"
    Load           "record"
    Load           "extmod"
    Load           "xtrap"
    Load           "glx"
    Load           "freetype"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier     "Keyboard0"
    Driver         "kbd"
    Option       "XkbRules" "xorg"
    Option       "XkbModel" "pc105"
    Option       "XkbLayout" "ee"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier     "Mouse0"
    Driver         "mouse"
    Option         "Protocol" "auto"
    Option         "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
    Option         "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7"
    Option       "Emulate3Buttons" "true"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
    Identifier     "Monitor0"
    VendorName     "Monitor Vendor"
    ModelName      "Monitor Model"
EndSection

Section "Device"
    Identifier     "Card0"
    Driver         "nvidia"
    VendorName     "nVidia Corporation"
    BoardName      "GeForce 8400M GS"
    Option       "NoLogo"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
    Identifier     "Screen0"
    Device         "Card0"
    Monitor        "Monitor0"
    SubSection     "Display"
        Viewport    0 0
    EndSubSection
    SubSection     "Display"
        Viewport    0 0
        Depth       4
    EndSubSection
    SubSection     "Display"
        Viewport    0 0
        Depth       8
    EndSubSection
    SubSection     "Display"
        Viewport    0 0
        Depth       15
    EndSubSection
    SubSection     "Display"
        Viewport    0 0
        Depth       16
    EndSubSection
    SubSection     "Display"
        Viewport    0 0
        Depth       24
    EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "Extensions"
    Option         "Composite" "Enable"
EndSection

If you have any idea or comment about my problem, please let me know.

Cheers,
Verner

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#2 2008-06-14 17:36:01

jacko
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Registered: 2007-11-23
Posts: 840

Re: Very slow (almost none) 3D Acceleration with current Nvidia driver

u don't need composite to play UT, do you?

I have issues with nvidia drivers and composite, so I disable.
Also, 173.xx drivers are out, I think u should update them.

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#3 2008-06-14 17:58:20

phisphere
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From: Tallinn, Estonia
Registered: 2007-03-05
Posts: 136
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Re: Very slow (almost none) 3D Acceleration with current Nvidia driver

what i mean by composite and games is that they both use 3D acceleration.
and that's one thing that i don't have.

i'll try newer drivers then.

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#4 2008-06-20 18:21:37

RabidWolf
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From: WI,USA
Registered: 2007-01-20
Posts: 31
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Re: Very slow (almost none) 3D Acceleration with current Nvidia driver

@ OP
You might wanna try tuning your xorg setup a bit as is described on the wiki http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Beg … Fxorg.conf , and just under the section on xorg there is a bit of more info on the nvidia or ati specific stuff.

Is there a reason you are not specifying the default depth portion?
eg:
Section "Screen"
       Identifier "Screen0"
       Device     "Card0"
       Monitor    "Monitor0"
       DefaultDepth 24

Or the modes portion?
eg:
SubSection "Display"
               Viewport   0 0
               Depth     24
               Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"

There's also more detailed info on the wiki about xorg http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xorg and nividia http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/NVIDIA

Although, some of those nvidia specific options can lower your fps, I tried some of them and then removed them as they killed my opengl performance in 3d games, only "Option" I added and kept was the NoLogo one.

Hope something there helps, always has for me smile

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Last edited by RabidWolf (2008-06-20 21:23:38)

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#5 2008-06-22 08:47:43

phisphere
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From: Tallinn, Estonia
Registered: 2007-03-05
Posts: 136
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Re: Very slow (almost none) 3D Acceleration with current Nvidia driver

that unfortunately didn't help me out.
but after tweaking some settings under nvidia settings manager i managed to get decent 3d performance out of my nvidia card.
i changed image settings from quality to high performance and checked the sync to vblanc option (no idea what it does though) under opengl settings.

so far i managed to play some urban terror, which worked fine.
but we'll see how it goes with compiz or other 3d things.

anyway, thanks everyone.

cheers,
verner

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#6 2008-06-26 00:45:53

DanielW
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Registered: 2008-01-27
Posts: 23

Re: Very slow (almost none) 3D Acceleration with current Nvidia driver

enbuyukfener:

Well i have a Vostro 1500 too. But that affects a lot of different Nvidia cards. Terrible 2D performance. Especially with QT4/KDE4.  But also with gtk2 (gtkperf is quite slow, two times faster with vesa driver).

And well it is much faster when using simple vesa driver in xorg. But that will disable all 3D and composing.

I am angry at nvidia and well as this is a Laptop i can not switch the card. :-(

And now two videos I recorded. Both are on the same laptop.

The first one using nvidia drivers:
http://arch.der-winti.de/nv/ge8600nvidia.mp4

The second with vesa driver:
http://arch.der-winti.de/nv/ge8600vesa.mp4

:-(

DanielW

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#7 2008-06-26 03:05:13

iBertus
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From: Greenville, NC
Registered: 2004-11-04
Posts: 2,228

Re: Very slow (almost none) 3D Acceleration with current Nvidia driver

Weird, I'm going back and forth between 5700 and 6700 FPS in glxgears on my 8800GT.

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