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#1 2008-06-17 10:35:44

nDray
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about the dev position opening

i thought that the arch devs was a team always growing and growing, instead of a fixed size array of monkeys tongue

is (y)our development  board really that strict? are you advertising the opening or the need?

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#2 2008-06-17 13:03:15

Misfit138
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Re: about the dev position opening

Are you referring to Cactus moving on? 2 more devs were just accepted. Check out arch dev public.

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#3 2008-06-17 15:15:08

catwell
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Re: about the dev position opening

I think he referred to that news which could let people think that Arch didn't accept new devs before.

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#4 2008-06-17 16:30:34

phrakture
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Re: about the dev position opening

We don't accept devs on a constant basis. It has always been based on need. If we don't need more packagers, then bringing more on is just a hassle. Sure, we always need help with code projects, but the people who contribute there are few and far between, and advertising isn't going to get you motivated coders.

No, we're looking for packagers. Simply put, we have too many packages to maintain per person, so we're trying to spread the love around.

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#5 2008-06-17 17:47:12

ornitorrincos
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Re: about the dev position opening

for seeing the need you just have to look at the recently orphaned packages(and I figure that they are not all the packages)

unfortunately at the moment I don't have the time nor the motivation to apply, and probably I neither have the skills.


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#6 2008-06-18 21:59:14

T-u-N-i-X
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Re: about the dev position opening

Well, I applied.. (at least sent a mail to Aaron) But still no luck..


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#7 2008-06-18 23:05:45

scj
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Re: about the dev position opening

T-u-N-i-X wrote:

Well, I applied.. (at least sent a mail to Aaron) But still no luck..

Me too. Seems like the positions filled up quickly.

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#8 2008-06-18 23:38:04

neotuli
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Re: about the dev position opening

Insider info:
If you sent an email, you're not alone. A little birdy told me we had 26 people interested... like yesterday. Whoah.


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#9 2008-06-18 23:58:14

lucke
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Re: about the dev position opening

Watch out, those might be Cylons.

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#10 2008-06-19 00:30:32

toofishes
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Re: about the dev position opening

Insider info- we are humans. We might take more than a day to accept or deny. I'm sure you will hear back either way when it all shakes out.

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#11 2008-06-19 10:45:28

schivmeister
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Re: about the dev position opening

Congrats, Allan! That was sneaky..

s/TU/Developer/ lol

Definitely a fitting position, I've seen a lot of commits signed by him so he'll be of help in more than just packaging - naturally.


I need real, proper pen and paper for this.

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#12 2008-06-19 16:38:01

phrakture
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Re: about the dev position opening

Yeah guys, please be patient. I need to filter some of these out and send emails to the dev list so we can do a little vote thing.

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#13 2008-06-19 17:00:38

carlocci
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Re: about the dev position opening

I wonder how many applied for the job...

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#14 2008-06-19 19:14:54

phrakture
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Re: about the dev position opening

As of right now, I have 37 applications

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#15 2008-06-19 19:38:59

ekerazha
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Re: about the dev position opening

There are packages which are flagged out-of-date for months, maybe Arch really needs many new packagers.

Last edited by ekerazha (2008-06-19 19:41:17)

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#16 2008-06-19 21:34:34

Pierre
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Re: about the dev position opening

If there are that many applications, could I have my personal assistant? :-9

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#17 2008-06-19 21:46:03

dolby
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Re: about the dev position opening

phrakture wrote:

As of right now, I have 37 applications

37? Thats an awful lot.
IMO only 3 people would qualify 2 out of which were Firmicus and Allan.
The 3rd one will hopeflly make it in the next round whenever that is,
I dont even know if he applied

ekerazha wrote:

maybe Arch really needs many new packagers.

IMO Archlinux needs less packages in official repos and/or a repo reorganisation.
eg,
seperate kde,gnome,xorg repos with teams lead by developers who will maintain em more easily

Last edited by dolby (2008-06-19 21:52:56)


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#18 2008-06-19 23:03:41

catwell
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Re: about the dev position opening

IMO most TU would qualify as they already have experience in Arch packaging, repos and so on.

As for repo reorganization, it would have the bad side that it would be more difficult to keep the different repos in sync if different teams are working on them. I mean, when you update glibc for example, you have to update all the packages depending on it accordingly. Also, the current organization with only two "real official" repos (core and extra) keeps our pacman.conf simple.

Yet, I agree with you that there could be a repo reorganization, but I any I see it taking place more at the community (as in "community repo") level, with a lot of packages dropped from extra, especially things like desktop environments, so that only vital stuff that most people need on a desktop remains in extra (for example xorg). What I don't really have a clue about is where libs such as GTK would go with such a structure, but I'd rather see them in extra than in the repo where the Gnome stuff would be because I use a lot of GTK apps even if I don't have Gnome installed on my laptop.

But anyway, Arch is growing and you can always use new devs in such cases, so thanks to all the candidates and good luck to the few chosen ones to be.

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#19 2008-06-19 23:12:41

phrakture
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Re: about the dev position opening

dolby wrote:

37? Thats an awful lot.
IMO only 3 people would qualify 2 out of which were Firmicus and Allan.
The 3rd one will hopeflly make it in the next round whenever that is,
I dont even know if he applied

Ah that's not true. We have an awful lot of talented people in the Arch community, no matter what people say. Especially a nay-sayer like dolby, heh. 8)

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#20 2008-06-20 02:22:35

Raccoon1400
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Re: about the dev position opening

dolby wrote:

IMO Archlinux needs less packages in official repos and/or a repo reorganisation.
eg,
seperate kde,gnome,xorg repos with teams lead by developers who will maintain em more easily

As long as what I need is available to me, either the main repos or AUR.
The advantage of the arch repos is,if a pkg is out of date, I can download the pkg build and update it by changing the version.


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