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eldarion

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From: Santarém - Portugal

Registered: 2006-08-01

Posts: 67

Arch Releases

hi there,

I have noticed that the front page and the download page of arch don't have the latest download shot of arch install disk. It only have 2007.08-2. It would be great to add the latest "stable" release (2008.03) or/and the latest developement release (2008.04-rc).

I know this is a minor issue, but i know of some people (http://fabrizioballiano.net/2008/06/17/ … s-hummmmm/) that tried Arch with the release 2007.08-2 and got in trouble with it. Worse, they are posting their "experiences" on their blogs saying not so good things about arch

Mr.Elendig

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Registered: 2004-11-07

Posts: 3,528

Re: Arch Releases

The 2008.03 iso's are not 'stable' releases.
Anyway, a link on the dl page to the rc iso's would be nice. There are several people a day on the irc channel that has issues caused by the 2007.08-2 iso's.

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Dusty

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Registered: 2004-01-18

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Re: Arch Releases

file a bug report.

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eldarion

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From: Santarém - Portugal

Registered: 2006-08-01

Posts: 67

Re: Arch Releases

The 2008.03 iso's are not 'stable' releases.

That's why i put \"\ on it.

file a bug report.

done.

http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/10688

Last edited by eldarion (2008-06-18 17:09:54)

balliano

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Registered: 2004-02-27

Posts: 36

Re: Arch Releases

I have noticed that the front page and the download page of arch don't have the latest download shot of arch install disk. It only have 2007.08-2. It would be great to add the latest "stable" release (2008.03) or/and the latest developement release (2008.04-rc).

if 2008.3 and 2008.4-rc will not be marked as stable, people will continue downloading the latest stable, so issues won't be fixed, people needs a new stable iso release.

Worse, they are posting their "experiences" on their blogs saying not so good things about arch

I've 2y6m experience with arch, founded arch italian community back in 2004 thus I think that this is an "experience" without quotes :-)

eldarion

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From: Santarém - Portugal

Registered: 2006-08-01

Posts: 67

Re: Arch Releases

if 2008.3 and 2008.4-rc will not be marked as stable, people will continue downloading the latest stable, so issues won't be fixed, people needs a new stable iso release.

People new to the Arch way, yes. But you, more that everybody should know how to find the latest Arch release and test it according. Arch have it's hown issues, as every distro out there, but i think what you have done (posting some quick review of Arch) won't help improving Arch and will certainly keep out some people away of this distro.

Everybody are free to post on their blogs everything they want, but posting a distro review without some seriousity can lead some people to call it "FUD" instead of "review" or "opinion".

cardinals_fan

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From: /dev/null

Registered: 2008-02-03

Posts: 248

Re: Arch Releases

The whole point of the rolling release model is that users are always on the bleeding edge (how bleeding depends on the distro).  It doesn't matter how current the iso is, because immediately after installation the user will sync with the repos and upgrade anyway.

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balliano

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Registered: 2004-02-27

Posts: 36

Re: Arch Releases

People new to the Arch way, yes. But you, more that everybody should know how to find the latest Arch release and test it according. Arch have it's hown issues, as every distro out there, but i think what you have done (posting some quick review of Arch) won't help improving Arch and will certainly keep out some people away of this distro.

i did the right thing downloading the latest STABLE iso, please stop telling that this wrong because there is no other stable iso and i don't want to try a release candidate or whatever development snapshop.

Everybody are free to post on their blogs everything they want, but posting a distro review without some seriousity can lead some people to call it "FUD" instead of "review" or "opinion".

i gave my point on my blog thus if you don't like it write your positive experience on your blog and stop. i did a lot for arch here in italy in the past (traslating pages and pages and working hunders hours on the community website till 2007) thus i think i can tell something i don't like after spending 4 hours on it.

Surely I did some fud :-D this consideration is the most funny or yours

balliano

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Registered: 2004-02-27

Posts: 36

Re: Arch Releases

The whole point of the rolling release model is that users are always on the bleeding edge (how bleeding depends on the distro).  It doesn't matter how current the iso is, because immediately after installation the user will sync with the repos and upgrade anyway.

you're perfectly right and i know that (that's why i used the net-installer iso) but the problem here is that the net-installer stable iso has a bug, the old pacman is not compatible with the new packages thus all new users won't be able to install anything (before seeking the bugifx in this forum, which is not quite awesome anyway).

update for the mod: think this thread could be closed because it's taking a wrong direction.

Last edited by balliano (2008-06-19 06:00:27)

Allan

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From: Brisbane, AU

Registered: 2007-06-09

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Re: Arch Releases

I agree, this is becoming unproductive and verging on personal attacks...  so it is now locked

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