Xfce SVN repo [closed]

voteforpedro36 · 2008-11-16 17:24:00

Am I stupid or is there -no- menu? No panel item, no right-click Applications menu.

AndyRTR · 2008-11-16 20:42:14

I've just finshed beta2 build and everything's fine so far. But I can't shutdown anymore as user. Any idea what has changed?

Roberth · 2008-11-17 10:55:46

Is there any thirdparty menu editors?

jarryson · 2008-11-17 11:00:08

AndyRTR wrote:

I've just finshed beta2 build and everything's fine so far. But I can't shutdown anymore as user. Any idea what has changed?

have you add your user to power group? and hal daemon started? or modified /etc/sudoers ?

Last edited by jarryson (2008-11-17 11:01:37)

autonymous · 2008-11-17 22:59:53

voteforpedro36 wrote:

Am I stupid or is there -no- menu? No panel item, no right-click Applications menu.

If you're stupid, I'm stoopid too, 'cause I'm having the same problem

voteforpedro36 · 2008-11-18 00:02:26

autonymous wrote:

voteforpedro36 wrote:
Am I stupid or is there -no- menu? No panel item, no right-click Applications menu.
If you're stupid, I'm stoopid too, 'cause I'm having the same problem

Lol, thanks for the confirmation.

Allan · 2008-11-18 01:42:06

AndyRTR wrote:

I've just finshed beta2 build and everything's fine so far. But I can't shutdown anymore as user. Any idea what has changed?

Not sure if it is the same issue but I just ran into that with the regular XFCE builds. Seemed to be a policykit issue. Had to add the following to /etc/PolicyKit/PolicyKit.conf

<match action="org.freedesktop.hal.power-management.shutdown">
    <return result="yes"/>
</match>

<match action="org.freedesktop.hal.power-management.reboot">
    <return result="yes"/>
</match>

cardinals_fan · 2008-11-18 02:26:52

Superb work. Will you be here all week

AndyRTR · 2008-11-18 05:47:41

Allan wrote:

AndyRTR wrote:
I've just finshed beta2 build and everything's fine so far. But I can't shutdown anymore as user. Any idea what has changed?
Not sure if it is the same issue but I just ran into that with the regular XFCE builds. Seemed to be a policykit issue. Had to add the following to /etc/PolicyKit/PolicyKit.conf
<match action="org.freedesktop.hal.power-management.shutdown">
    <return result="yes"/>
</match>

<match action="org.freedesktop.hal.power-management.reboot">
    <return result="yes"/>
</match>

no. i had changed the libexec-dir from /usr/lib/xfce4 to /usr/lib wherever i could to avoid the double /usr/lib/xfce4/xfce4 path naming and that broke xfce4-session. that one pkg still needs the libexec-dir set to /usr/lib/xfce4.

has anybody tried out those new two power saving/shutdown options (guess they are called suspend and hibernate)? I've never played with that so far.

muflax · 2008-11-18 08:36:08

Hm, I just switched all libexecdirs to /usr/lib, so that might have caused that. I've built a second package and uploaded it here:

i686: http://www.stud.uni-karlsruhe.de/~uvcal … pkg.tar.gz
x86_64: http://www.stud.uni-karlsruhe.de/~uvcal … pkg.tar.gz

Does that fix the problem? (Oh, just re-read your post and now I'm not even sure if you're actually using my svn build at all. If not, than I fixed a non-issue. ^^)

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jarryson · 2008-11-18 09:34:42

AndyRTR wrote:

no. i had changed the libexec-dir from /usr/lib/xfce4 to /usr/lib wherever i could to avoid the double /usr/lib/xfce4/xfce4 path naming and that broke xfce4-session. that one pkg still needs the libexec-dir set to /usr/lib/xfce4.
has anybody tried out those new two power saving/shutdown options (guess they are called suspend and hibernate)? I've never played with that so far.

seems i did that for a while too, and everything is OK, because xfce4-session can use hal and sudo to shutdown, and it's automatic, please see the wiki. but gnome can't, so gnome can not shutdown by clickng the shutdown buttom.

and now thanks to Allan, i can shutdown now in gnome.

Edit1: tried again shuntdown and reboot in xfce4-session, all package comes from xfce4-svn repo.

just edited the /etc/PolicyKit/policykit.conf

------------------------------------------------------------------------
Edit2: but report:
xfdekstop should depends on libxfce4menu-svn, or there will be no menu.

libxfce4gui should depends on xfconf-svn. because while ./configure it will test xfconf_libs.

why must xfce-utils-svn depends on dbh? I compiled this package before, and without dbh it still work fine.

Edit3:
xfconf without perl things can still run, the two execable file seem work fine, and ldd the two file alsa find no relationship with any perl things.

Last edited by jarryson (2008-11-18 10:25:38)

voteforpedro36 · 2008-11-18 21:52:04

Hooray for me having a menu again. Thanks man.

muflax · 2008-11-18 22:00:53

Fixed everything. dbh was part of 4.4, but is not checked for anymore and namcap confirms that. So I removed it. I moved the perl deps to makedepends. If something breaks, just tell me.

tesjo · 2008-11-20 02:32:43

Nice work. I have one problem. I cant shutdown or reboot I have tried the suggestions here but hasn't worked since I changed from the extra/stable version on arch64. I installed by

pacman -Rcs xfce4
pacman -S xfce4-svn

After the last update I change /etc/sudoers line to

travis ALL=(root) NOPASSWD:/usr/lib/xfsm-shutdown-helper

this works since I get the dialogue buttons to click. Shutdown and reboot kill the session but fail to shutdown. If I click the new options I recieve an error

Suspend and Hibernate are only supported through HAL, which is unavailable

Of course hal is running.

All options work under root. Hiberneate did some writing to disk and then shutdown, but appeared to start as a normal reboot.

EDIT: Seems I have it fixed, I removed and reinstall xfce4-svn 3 files were listed corrupt and redownloaded. Then I removed the sudoers entry and added the user to the power group. Now able to reboot and shutdown.

And one request. I don't know if it is going to be part of the offical release, but would you consider adding xfburn.

Last edited by tesjo (2008-11-20 03:05:43)

muflax · 2008-11-20 03:23:17

The hibernate issue could be a kernel problem. At least my desktop machine has that problem with 2.6.27. So check that it works without xfce4 first. Anyway, great that shutdown seems to work now! I think I'll add a note to the first page for that...

There already is an xfburn-svn package in AUR, but as I use it myself, I will add it to the repo. Edit: Uploaded just now.

Last edited by muflax (2008-11-20 04:26:36)

dhave · 2008-11-21 17:14:03

If I want to install Xfce4-svn, do I first need to remove Xfce 4.4.3? Or can the two co-exist?

Sorry if this is answered above. I read through all the posts and didn't see it. Thanks.

Last edited by dhave (2008-11-21 17:19:57)

muflax · 2008-11-21 17:37:24

No, the svn packages replace the regular ones. You do not necessarily need to install all, however.

dhave · 2008-11-21 17:53:39

muflax wrote:

No, the svn packages replace the regular ones. You do not necessarily need to install all, however.

O.K., thanks. My Arch setup has been running too smoothly lately, so I think it's time to sail into some choppier waters. I think I'll try your repo out. Thanks for your work on it.

dhave · 2008-11-21 18:19:00

dhave wrote:

muflax wrote:
No, the svn packages replace the regular ones. You do not necessarily need to install all, however.
O.K., thanks. My Arch setup has been running too smoothly lately, so I think it's time to sail into some choppier waters. I think I'll try your repo out. Thanks for your work on it.

After that bold statement, I'll ask this: How hard is it to go back to stable Xfce4 if the sailing gets too rough?

muflax · 2008-11-21 18:31:32

Just enter pacman -Rcs xfce4-svn; pacman -S xfce4 ^^. There should be no problem whatsoever. You might want to backup your config (~/.config/xfce4, iirc), though, as the config system changed.

dhave · 2008-11-21 19:20:58

I'm afraid I'm still not getting a menu. I installed xfdesktop-svn, thinking this would do the trick.

What are you guys doing to get a menu?

Thanks.

voteforpedro36 · 2008-11-21 23:10:23

dhave wrote:

I'm afraid I'm still not getting a menu. I installed xfdesktop-svn, thinking this would do the trick.
What are you guys doing to get a menu?
Thanks.

pacman -S xfce4-svn xfce4-goodies-svn

dhave · 2008-11-21 23:51:15

voteforpedro36 wrote:

dhave wrote:
What are you guys doing to get a menu?
pacman -S xfce4-svn xfce4-goodies-svn

Well, I started from scratch, removing xfce-4svn and xfce4-goodies-svn, then reinstalling, but still no menu.

Maybe I'll try again after a night's sleep.

If anybody has any ideas, I'd like to hear them. thanks.

dhave · 2008-11-22 00:05:55

O.K., I finally got the menu back. I ran xfdesktop from a terminal and got a file-not-found message for libgamin. I tried to install gamin, and it conflicted with fam. I let pacman remove fam to install gamin. Then, when I ran xfdesktop, I got my menu back.

muflax · 2008-11-22 01:39:21

Hm, strange. Well, I run gamin (which works way better than fam for me), but I'd be surprised if xfdesktop really needs it. I will look into it and see if I accidentally linked it against xfdesktop.

Ok, found out what's wrong. Several xfce4 packages check for either fam or gamin and build against it. It seems that building against gamin really requires gamin, but using fam is compatible with both of them. So I changed that on my build system as I use mc exclusively nowadays anyway. Xfdesktop should now work right out-of-the-box.

Anyway, someone asked about a menu editor and I just saw that xfdesktop can be build with one. I activated it as this is an experimental repo anyway, so just try it out! (If it even works at all... ^^)

Edit: Sorry, got a little distracted, x86_64 build takes a while. Will be done soon.

Last edited by muflax (2008-11-22 07:25:06)

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