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#1 2008-07-29 20:13:15

Xi0N
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Unable to boot, please use a kernel appropiated for your CPU

Hi all!
Im trying to install arch in a machine that now has Ubuntu 8.04 running on it without any problem. It already has been running Ubuntu since 7.04 and i never got any problem similar to what im going to explain.
Originally, this machine was a small firewalll with a 800 Mhz CPU and 128 Mb SDRAM (133Mhz), two lan interfaces, VGA output and a 40 Gb (upgraded to 80 Gb) 2,5 Inches Hard disk. Totally sweet for testing and learning a lot of console stuff for somebody like me (exclusively using linux since one year and a half).
I allways managed it via SSH, never directly through the VGA Output (only while installing the system) and i want to install arch on it.
I downloaded the last archlinux-2008.06-ftp-i686.img and prepared a USB with it for installing (This unit does not have CD/DVD unit, so i must do it through the only USB port that has, and lets me boot from, actually)
I did: sudo dd if=archlinux-2008.06-ftp-i686.img of=/dev/sdf
And then i attempted to boot the arch live. (Itryed later with bothe normal and IDE one)
After some minutes, iget this error message:

This Kernel requires the following features not present on the CPU:
 cmov

Unable to boot - please use a Kernel appropiated for your CPU

And is impossible to go on from here.

I want to ask if there is still any solution for installing Arch some other way.

I willl wait for your replyes.

Cheers!!

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#2 2008-07-29 21:20:12

Xi0N
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Re: Unable to boot, please use a kernel appropiated for your CPU

I tryed to update the Bios to a newer one, in order to fix this issue:

I have been able to update from a 2003 Bios ti the latest one, from july 2004, but i still have the same issue.................
Still no luck... sad

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#3 2008-07-29 21:25:31

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Re: Unable to boot, please use a kernel appropiated for your CPU

What sort of a processor do you have in there?  Arch is i686 optimized, so it only works on Pentium II or later processors.

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#4 2008-07-29 21:40:02

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Re: Unable to boot, please use a kernel appropiated for your CPU

bigboss@OuterHeaven:~$ head /proc/cpuinfo 
processor    : 0
vendor_id    : CentaurHauls
cpu family    : 6
model        : 7
model name    : VIA Samuel 2
stepping    : 3
cpu MHz        : 798.995
cache size    : 64 KB
fdiv_bug    : no
hlt_bug        : no

What is strange is that when i login through SSH to this machine (Ubuntu 8.04 Server) i get this message:

Linux OuterHeaven 2.6.24-19-generic #1 SMP Fri Jul 11 23:41:49 UTC 2008 i686

Clearly says it is a i686 machine, am i wrong?

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#5 2008-07-29 21:45:02

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Re: Unable to boot, please use a kernel appropiated for your CPU

Quick googling unearthed this link -- relevant quote:

To my surprise my machine identifies itself as i686, when asked with "uname -m". This is shurely wrong, since the VIA samuel 2 processor lacks one importent instruction: All Pre-'Nehemiah' core C3s are missing an instruction that is present on proper i686 chips! The instruction in question is CMOV, which may be present in code compiled for an i686 platform.

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#6 2008-07-29 21:47:19

Xi0N
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Re: Unable to boot, please use a kernel appropiated for your CPU

Ok, so, does this clearly mean "Sorry, no arch for you"?

Shit..... sad

Thanks anyway...

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#7 2008-07-29 21:54:25

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Re: Unable to boot, please use a kernel appropiated for your CPU

There was an i586 version of Arch at one stage, but I don't think this project is alive anymore.  Some good alternatives might be Slackware or Gentoo, there is also a i586 version of Crux available -- somewhat more bare-bones and manual compared to Arch, but very similar in overall design and philosophy.  Crux, IMO, would be awesome for tinkering and learning -- if that's what you looking for.

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#8 2008-07-29 22:00:03

Xi0N
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Re: Unable to boot, please use a kernel appropiated for your CPU

Well, anyway thanks for your dedicated help and for minding my problem smile
I am really interested in using arch because of the high updated software that provides (unline Ubuntu) but i think that if i cannot use arch, i haven't any reason for changing anymore... that was my ilusion, and i really appreciate your recommendations, but i will stick to the distro i have been using until now......
What really disturbs me is that my cpu is cheating ubuntu and saying that is an i686 CPU while is still a i586 one... and i do absolutely all the things i need.. from installing, also compiling... etc...
Anyway.... thanks again!!

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#9 2008-12-22 15:38:51

Xi0N
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Re: Unable to boot, please use a kernel appropiated for your CPU

Hi again!
I finally became an Arch user, but, unfortunately, not with this machine... sad

Which distro do you think would be a nice one to use in this 128 MB SDRAM, and 700 Mhz machine? (it's actually a firewall)

I was thinking in Damn Small linux, but the kernel is a bit outdated (2.4) .... What do you think about Debian?

I currently use Ubuntu Server 8.04 through SSH (No xorg installed at all) because of obvious resource reasons.

Any oppinion will be welcome smile

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