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#1 2008-07-31 20:53:20

Gluffs
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Replacement for firefox?

Hi I am looking for another web browser then firefox. Since firefox 3 i have been getting annoying
spikes in my cpu where firefox all of the sudden takes 98% of the cpu power. So im looking for
another web browser and I am interested in hearing about what you guys/girls are using?
Ive been looking on Opera and epiphany but is there other browsers out there that is
lightweight and can handle flash and java?

I havent installed and tried Opera or Epiphany yet, only visited their websites and read about them,
I want to hear about experiences before I install any of them tongue

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#2 2008-07-31 21:22:25

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Re: Replacement for firefox?

try elinks


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#3 2008-07-31 21:36:15

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Re: Replacement for firefox?

Epiphany is pretty basic, as you would expect from Gnome, but it's all I need. I used Opera years ago on Windows but since coming over to Linux I never really got on with it for some reason. I do like the integration of it's own email client though.

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#4 2008-07-31 21:51:12

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Re: Replacement for firefox?

Midori: kind of unstable, currently lacks cookie support. Currently under heavy development, git version may be more useful or more crashy depending on the day.

Kazehakase: stable, ugly, buggy; needs to be recompiled against current Gecko but supports Webkit.

Epiphany: Gnome-only.

Galeon: Yes, it's been updated and compiles against current Gecko!

Netsurf: sloooooooowwwwww.

Dillo: doesn't support enough stuff to be remotely useful.\

Icecat: GNU Firefox clone. Needs Gnome libraries for some stupid reason.

Skipstone: ugly, low on features. Works.

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#5 2008-07-31 22:00:08

Gluffs
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Re: Replacement for firefox?

Thx for the tips. Ill will check them out and see wich one ill try big_smile

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#6 2008-07-31 22:47:44

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Re: Replacement for firefox?

Galeon looks quite alright. I've always used Firefox but lately with the new version it seems a bit slow. Or is it just me?
I'll give Galeon a shot.


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#7 2008-07-31 22:53:17

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Re: Replacement for firefox?

ies4linux?

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#8 2008-07-31 22:54:59

heleos
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Re: Replacement for firefox?

Opera!

I made the switch from firefox to opera a while ago. Sure its not opensource, but its fast, low footprint, and has a lot of nice features (Mouse gestures are great, speed dial as homepage is nice, etc).

Not sure if firefox has them, haven't used it in a long time.

Last edited by heleos (2008-07-31 22:56:10)

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#9 2008-07-31 23:55:02

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Re: Replacement for firefox?

Swiftfox and Swiftweasel have builds that are optimized for specific CPU architectures.  I use Swiftweasel at the moment for AMD64 and it is much better than the stock firefox (starts up faster, less mem usage, etc etc)


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#10 2008-08-01 00:22:54

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Re: Replacement for firefox?

Gullible Jones wrote:

Epiphany: Gnome-only.

Epiphany works good and looks good on xfce4.


You could always try swiftweasel or swiftfox optimized for your processor.

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#11 2008-08-01 00:34:05

methuselah
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Re: Replacement for firefox?

kclive18 wrote:

Swiftfox and Swiftweasel have builds that are optimized for specific CPU architectures.  I use Swiftweasel at the moment for AMD64 and it is much better than the stock firefox (starts up faster, less mem usage, etc etc)

I also use swiftweasel for AMD64... I didn't like how the swiftweasel browser didn't use my native Linux icons (like regular Firefox 3), so I just opened my /opt/swiftweasel/chrome/classic.jar with the app "File-Roller" (in gksu root) and then replaced /skin/classic/browser/browser.css and /skin/classic/browser/Toolbar.png with the "browser.css" and "Toolbar.png" from the regular Firefox 3 or Minefield 3 and everything looks perfect and works perfect (for regular icon view).

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#12 2008-08-01 00:47:18

Gullible Jones
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Re: Replacement for firefox?

methuselah wrote:
Gullible Jones wrote:

Epiphany: Gnome-only.

Epiphany works good and looks good on xfce4.

Yeah but it drags in about half of the Gnome base with its dependencies.

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#13 2008-08-01 00:54:48

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Re: Replacement for firefox?

Gullible Jones wrote:
methuselah wrote:
Gullible Jones wrote:

Epiphany: Gnome-only.

Epiphany works good and looks good on xfce4.

Yeah but it drags in about half of the Gnome base with its dependencies.

True. When I was using my last laptop before it broke (only had 512MB ram), I only used xfce4 and I saw how much extra gnome stuff is added if you use apps like epiphany or gdm... Now my new laptop has 4GB ram so I don't mind using gnome2.

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#14 2008-08-01 01:25:26

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Re: Replacement for firefox?

Why hasn't anyone mentioned Konqueror?  ... of course this only makes sense if you use KDE.

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#15 2008-08-01 02:15:56

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Re: Replacement for firefox?

pseudonomous wrote:

Why hasn't anyone mentioned Konqueror?  ... of course this only makes sense if you use KDE.

I only use Konqueror. The unique problem is that it doesn't support the lastest flash but if you install a previous version everytihng works alright. Reeeeally fast (when using KDE of course).

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#16 2008-08-01 02:23:17

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Re: Replacement for firefox?

Update: Icecat no longer depends on Gnome libraries.

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#17 2008-08-01 03:13:52

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Re: Replacement for firefox?

I used to use Konqueror. But Opera is a lot better that firefox and konqueror. I think that firefox is for sure the best for windows, but works bad with linux. Opera is great at every plataform


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#18 2008-08-01 04:44:26

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Re: Replacement for firefox?

Gullible Jones wrote:

Galeon: Yes, it's been updated and compiles against current Gecko!

Everything I've read online says it too requires gnome. mad

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#19 2008-08-01 11:37:26

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Re: Replacement for firefox?

http://galeon.sourceforge.net/

that is probably because it's been 2 years since they updated their website. Old news is also current news. hmm

if it wasn't for gnome files, I would have never guessed galeon wasn't just another dead project.

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#20 2008-08-01 16:18:19

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Re: Replacement for firefox?

opera is about the only one that can compete with firefox, to me. the occasional cpu spike seems a picky reason to give up on firefox. i, pretty much, hate the rest, except elinks.

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#21 2008-08-01 16:49:33

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Re: Replacement for firefox?

You can try kazehakase : a lightweighted web browser based on the Gecko engine
http://kazehakase.sourceforge.jp/
EDIT : Ohw sorry it was already mentionned by Gullible Jones

Last edited by iznogoud (2008-08-01 16:52:06)

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#22 2008-08-17 23:14:24

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Re: Replacement for firefox?

fuscia wrote:

opera is about the only one that can compete with firefox, to me. the occasional cpu spike seems a picky reason to give up on firefox. i, pretty much, hate the rest, except elinks.

elinks rules... especially when you only have one computer, and you break something and lose your gui.


Having elinks, or links, to connect to the internet to read through the wikis and forums is one of the coolest apps I've found. It totally saved me when I was learning to compile my first custom kernel and I botched it... the midnight commander is also a cool app for console use.

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#23 2008-08-18 08:12:13

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Re: Replacement for firefox?

As far as features go there is not much choice, firefox or opera. For just browsing, epiphany or kazehakase are pretty ok (I still would prefer firefox or opera over them any day though)


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#24 2008-08-18 09:28:34

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Re: Replacement for firefox?

Midori, taking advantage of WebKit core, it is ultra lightweight while still completely modern and fully standard compatible (not like Gillo, NetSurf or similar stuff). It is not DE-specific (like Epiphany), it supports JS and flash, it support user scripts (supports Greasemonkey scripts and Opera user scripts, but not fully), and has a very lovely logo! It is very lovely and sexy IMO. The new verison is in the testing repo.

PS: Yes I still use Firefox3 myself solely for Vimperator...

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#25 2008-08-18 10:36:11

Gullible Jones
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Re: Replacement for firefox?

Midori still doesn't support cookies though... If it did I'd switch to it in half a second. sad

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