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#1 2008-08-06 14:09:39

Izobalax
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GDM and GNOME has died...

Hello! I'm currently posting via a Knoppix Live CD. This is because, after doing a system update yesterday, GDM and GNOME no longer work.

I mostly received kdemod-4.1 updates.

GDM crashes constantly now and if I just get to a prompt and run 

exec gnome-session

An error message is displayed (can't make out what it is, it goes to fast) and then I'm logged out.

How can I resolve? I currently can't log into ANY desktop environment at all.

/izo\

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#2 2008-08-06 14:17:49

finferflu
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Re: GDM and GNOME has died...

Look into /var/log/Xorg.0.log, you should be able to see some error there.

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#3 2008-08-06 14:30:41

Izobalax
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Re: GDM and GNOME has died...

finferflu wrote:

Look into /var/log/Xorg.0.log, you should be able to see some error there.

Thanks for the response! I've looked at the log, but I'm afraid a large chunk of it means very little to me.

This is the log:

X.Org X Server 1.4.2
Release Date: 11 June 2008
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.25-ARCH i686 
Current Operating System: Linux kether 2.6.25-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Mon Jul 14 15:25:51 UTC 2008 i686
Build Date: 21 June 2008  05:47:59PM
 
    Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
    to make sure that you have the latest version.
Module Loader present
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
    (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
    (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Wed Aug  6 14:28:32 2008
(==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
(==) ServerLayout "X.org Configured"
(**) |-->Screen "Screen0" (0)
(**) |   |-->Monitor "Monitor0"
(**) |   |-->Device "Card0"
(**) |-->Input Device "Mouse0"
(==) Automatically adding devices
(==) Automatically enabling devices
(WW) The directory "/usr/share/X11/fonts/100dpi/" does not exist.
    Entry deleted from font path.
(WW) The directory "/usr/share/X11/fonts/100dpi" does not exist.
    Entry deleted from font path.
(==) Including the default font path /usr/share/fonts/misc,/usr/share/fonts/100dpi:unscaled,/usr/share/fonts/75dpi:unscaled,/usr/share/fonts/TTF,/usr/share/fonts/Type1.
(**) FontPath set to:
    /usr/share/fonts/misc,
    /usr/share/fonts/100dpi:unscaled,
    /usr/share/fonts/75dpi:unscaled,
    /usr/share/fonts/TTF,
    /usr/share/fonts/Type1,
    /usr/share/fonts/misc,
    /usr/share/fonts/100dpi:unscaled,
    /usr/share/fonts/75dpi:unscaled,
    /usr/share/fonts/TTF,
    /usr/share/fonts/Type1
(**) RgbPath set to "/usr/share/X11/rgb"
(**) ModulePath set to "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
(**) Extension "Composite" is enabled
(==) |-->Input Device "Generic Keyboard"
(==) The core keyboard device wasn't specified explicitly in the layout.
    Using the first core keyboard device.
(WW) Open ACPI failed (/var/run/acpid.socket) (No such file or directory)
(II) No APM support in BIOS or kernel
(II) Loader magic: 0x81e0a60
(II) Module ABI versions:
    X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.3
    X.Org Video Driver: 2.0
    X.Org XInput driver : 2.0
    X.Org Server Extension : 0.3
    X.Org Font Renderer : 0.5
(II) Loader running on linux
(II) LoadModule: "pcidata"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules//libpcidata.so
(II) Module pcidata: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
    compiled for 1.4.2, module version = 1.0.0
    ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 2.0
(++) using VT number 7

(II) PCI: PCI scan (all values are in hex)
(II) PCI: 00:00:0: chip 8086,2560 card 1734,1003 rev 01 class 06,00,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:02:0: chip 8086,2562 card 1734,1003 rev 01 class 03,00,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:1d:0: chip 8086,24c2 card 1734,1004 rev 01 class 0c,03,00 hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:1d:1: chip 8086,24c4 card 1734,1004 rev 01 class 0c,03,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:1d:2: chip 8086,24c7 card 1734,1004 rev 01 class 0c,03,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:1d:7: chip 8086,24cd card 1734,1004 rev 01 class 0c,03,20 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:1e:0: chip 8086,244e card 0000,0000 rev 81 class 06,04,00 hdr 01
(II) PCI: 00:1f:0: chip 8086,24c0 card 0000,0000 rev 01 class 06,01,00 hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:1f:1: chip 8086,24cb card 1734,1004 rev 01 class 01,01,8a hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:1f:3: chip 8086,24c3 card 1734,1004 rev 01 class 0c,05,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:1f:5: chip 8086,24c5 card 1734,0088 rev 01 class 04,01,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 02:08:0: chip 8086,103b card 1734,1002 rev 81 class 02,00,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: End of PCI scan
(II) Intel Bridge workaround enabled
(II) Host-to-PCI bridge:
(II) Bus 0: bridge is at (0:0:0), (0,0,2), BCTRL: 0x0008 (VGA_EN is set)
(II) Bus 0 I/O range:
    [0] -1    0    0x00000000 - 0x0000ffff (0x10000) IX[b]
(II) Bus 0 non-prefetchable memory range:
    [0] -1    0    0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX[b]
(II) Bus 0 prefetchable memory range:
    [0] -1    0    0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX[b]
(II) Subtractive PCI-to-PCI bridge:
(II) Bus 2: bridge is at (0:30:0), (0,2,2), BCTRL: 0x0006 (VGA_EN is cleared)
(II) Bus 2 I/O range:
    [0] -1    0    0x00003000 - 0x000030ff (0x100) IX[b]
    [1] -1    0    0x00003400 - 0x000034ff (0x100) IX[b]
    [2] -1    0    0x00003800 - 0x000038ff (0x100) IX[b]
    [3] -1    0    0x00003c00 - 0x00003cff (0x100) IX[b]
(II) Bus 2 non-prefetchable memory range:
    [0] -1    0    0xd0100000 - 0xd01fffff (0x100000) MX[b]
(II) PCI-to-ISA bridge:
(II) Bus -1: bridge is at (0:31:0), (0,-1,-1), BCTRL: 0x0008 (VGA_EN is set)
(--) PCI:*(0:2:0) Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device rev 1, Mem @ 0xd8000000/27, 0xd0000000/19
(II) Addressable bus resource ranges are
    [0] -1    0    0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX[b]
    [1] -1    0    0x00000000 - 0x0000ffff (0x10000) IX[b]
(II) OS-reported resource ranges:
    [0] -1    0    0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[b]E(B)
    [1] -1    0    0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[b]
    [2] -1    0    0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[b]
    [3] -1    0    0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[b]
    [4] -1    0    0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[b]
    [5] -1    0    0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[b]
(II) PCI Memory resource overlap reduced 0xe0000000 from 0xefffffff to 0xdfffffff
(II) Active PCI resource ranges:
    [0] -1    0    0xd0100000 - 0xd0100fff (0x1000) MX[b]
    [1] -1    0    0xd0080800 - 0xd00808ff (0x100) MX[b]
    [2] -1    0    0xd0080c00 - 0xd0080dff (0x200) MX[b]
    [3] -1    0    0x30000000 - 0x300003ff (0x400) MX[b]
    [4] -1    0    0xd0080000 - 0xd00803ff (0x400) MX[b]
    [5] -1    0    0xe0000000 - 0xdfffffff (0x0) MX[b]O
    [6] -1    0    0xd0000000 - 0xd007ffff (0x80000) MX[b](B)
    [7] -1    0    0xd8000000 - 0xdfffffff (0x8000000) MX[b](B)
    [8] -1    0    0x00003000 - 0x0000303f (0x40) IX[b]
    [9] -1    0    0x00002000 - 0x0000203f (0x40) IX[b]
    [10] -1    0    0x00002400 - 0x000024ff (0x100) IX[b]
    [11] -1    0    0x00001c00 - 0x00001c1f (0x20) IX[b]
    [12] -1    0    0x00002800 - 0x0000280f (0x10) IX[b]
    [13] -1    0    0x000001f0 - 0x000001f0 (0x1) IX[b]
    [14] -1    0    0x000001f0 - 0x000001f7 (0x8) IX[b]
    [15] -1    0    0x000001f0 - 0x000001f0 (0x1) IX[b]
    [16] -1    0    0x000001f0 - 0x000001f7 (0x8) IX[b]
    [17] -1    0    0x00001800 - 0x0000181f (0x20) IX[b]
    [18] -1    0    0x00001400 - 0x0000141f (0x20) IX[b]
    [19] -1    0    0x00001000 - 0x0000101f (0x20) IX[b]
(II) Active PCI resource ranges after removing overlaps:
    [0] -1    0    0xd0100000 - 0xd0100fff (0x1000) MX[b]
    [1] -1    0    0xd0080800 - 0xd00808ff (0x100) MX[b]
    [2] -1    0    0xd0080c00 - 0xd0080dff (0x200) MX[b]
    [3] -1    0    0x30000000 - 0x300003ff (0x400) MX[b]
    [4] -1    0    0xd0080000 - 0xd00803ff (0x400) MX[b]
    [5] -1    0    0xe0000000 - 0xdfffffff (0x0) MX[b]O
    [6] -1    0    0xd0000000 - 0xd007ffff (0x80000) MX[b](B)
    [7] -1    0    0xd8000000 - 0xdfffffff (0x8000000) MX[b](B)
    [8] -1    0    0x00003000 - 0x0000303f (0x40) IX[b]
    [9] -1    0    0x00002000 - 0x0000203f (0x40) IX[b]
    [10] -1    0    0x00002400 - 0x000024ff (0x100) IX[b]
    [11] -1    0    0x00001c00 - 0x00001c1f (0x20) IX[b]
    [12] -1    0    0x00002800 - 0x0000280f (0x10) IX[b]
    [13] -1    0    0x000001f0 - 0x000001f0 (0x1) IX[b]
    [14] -1    0    0x000001f0 - 0x000001f7 (0x8) IX[b]
    [15] -1    0    0x000001f0 - 0x000001f0 (0x1) IX[b]
    [16] -1    0    0x000001f0 - 0x000001f7 (0x8) IX[b]
    [17] -1    0    0x00001800 - 0x0000181f (0x20) IX[b]
    [18] -1    0    0x00001400 - 0x0000141f (0x20) IX[b]
    [19] -1    0    0x00001000 - 0x0000101f (0x20) IX[b]
(II) OS-reported resource ranges after removing overlaps with PCI:
    [0] -1    0    0x00100000 - 0x2fffffff (0x2ff00000) MX[b]E(B)
    [1] -1    0    0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[b]
    [2] -1    0    0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[b]
    [3] -1    0    0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[b]
    [4] -1    0    0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[b]
    [5] -1    0    0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[b]
(II) All system resource ranges:
    [0] -1    0    0x00100000 - 0x2fffffff (0x2ff00000) MX[b]E(B)
    [1] -1    0    0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[b]
    [2] -1    0    0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[b]
    [3] -1    0    0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[b]
    [4] -1    0    0xd0100000 - 0xd0100fff (0x1000) MX[b]
    [5] -1    0    0xd0080800 - 0xd00808ff (0x100) MX[b]
    [6] -1    0    0xd0080c00 - 0xd0080dff (0x200) MX[b]
    [7] -1    0    0x30000000 - 0x300003ff (0x400) MX[b]
    [8] -1    0    0xd0080000 - 0xd00803ff (0x400) MX[b]
    [9] -1    0    0xe0000000 - 0xdfffffff (0x0) MX[b]O
    [10] -1    0    0xd0000000 - 0xd007ffff (0x80000) MX[b](B)
    [11] -1    0    0xd8000000 - 0xdfffffff (0x8000000) MX[b](B)
    [12] -1    0    0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[b]
    [13] -1    0    0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[b]
    [14] -1    0    0x00003000 - 0x0000303f (0x40) IX[b]
    [15] -1    0    0x00002000 - 0x0000203f (0x40) IX[b]
    [16] -1    0    0x00002400 - 0x000024ff (0x100) IX[b]
    [17] -1    0    0x00001c00 - 0x00001c1f (0x20) IX[b]
    [18] -1    0    0x00002800 - 0x0000280f (0x10) IX[b]
    [19] -1    0    0x000001f0 - 0x000001f0 (0x1) IX[b]
    [20] -1    0    0x000001f0 - 0x000001f7 (0x8) IX[b]
    [21] -1    0    0x000001f0 - 0x000001f0 (0x1) IX[b]
    [22] -1    0    0x000001f0 - 0x000001f7 (0x8) IX[b]
    [23] -1    0    0x00001800 - 0x0000181f (0x20) IX[b]
    [24] -1    0    0x00001400 - 0x0000141f (0x20) IX[b]
    [25] -1    0    0x00001000 - 0x0000101f (0x20) IX[b]
(II) "extmod" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in the config file.
(II) "dbe" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in the config file.
(II) "glx" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in the config file.
(II) "freetype" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in the config file.
(II) "record" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in the config file.
(II) "dri" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in the config file.
(II) LoadModule: "dri"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libdri.so
(II) Module dri: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
    compiled for 1.4.2, module version = 1.0.0
    ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.3
(II) Loading extension XFree86-DRI
(II) LoadModule: "record"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//librecord.so
(II) Module record: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
    compiled for 1.4.2, module version = 1.13.0
    Module class: X.Org Server Extension
    ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.3
(II) Loading extension RECORD
(II) LoadModule: "dbe"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libdbe.so
(II) Module dbe: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
    compiled for 1.4.2, module version = 1.0.0
    Module class: X.Org Server Extension
    ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.3
(II) Loading extension DOUBLE-BUFFER
(II) LoadModule: "xtrap"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libxtrap.so
(II) Module xtrap: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
    compiled for 1.4.2, module version = 1.0.0
    Module class: X.Org Server Extension
    ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.3
(II) Loading extension DEC-XTRAP
(II) LoadModule: "extmod"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libextmod.so
(II) Module extmod: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
    compiled for 1.4.2, module version = 1.0.0
    Module class: X.Org Server Extension
    ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.3
(II) Loading extension SHAPE
(II) Loading extension MIT-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD
(II) Loading extension BIG-REQUESTS
(II) Loading extension SYNC
(II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
(II) Loading extension XC-MISC
(II) Loading extension XFree86-VidModeExtension
(II) Loading extension XFree86-Misc
(II) Loading extension XFree86-DGA
(II) Loading extension DPMS
(II) Loading extension TOG-CUP
(II) Loading extension Extended-Visual-Information
(II) Loading extension XVideo
(II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation
(II) Loading extension X-Resource
(II) LoadModule: "glx"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libglx.so
(II) Module glx: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
    compiled for 1.4.2, module version = 1.0.0
    ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.3
(==) AIGLX enabled
(II) Loading extension GLX
(II) LoadModule: "freetype"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/fonts//libfreetype.so
(II) Module freetype: vendor="X.Org Foundation & the After X-TT Project"
    compiled for 1.4.2, module version = 2.1.0
    Module class: X.Org Font Renderer
    ABI class: X.Org Font Renderer, version 0.5
(II) Loading font FreeType
(II) LoadModule: "intel"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//intel_drv.so
(II) Module intel: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
    compiled for 1.4.2, module version = 2.3.2
    Module class: X.Org Video Driver
    ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 2.0
(II) LoadModule: "mouse"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input//mouse_drv.so
(II) Module mouse: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
    compiled for 1.4.2, module version = 1.3.0
    Module class: X.Org XInput Driver
    ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 2.0
(II) LoadModule: "kbd"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input//kbd_drv.so
(II) Module kbd: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
    compiled for 1.4.2, module version = 1.3.1
    Module class: X.Org XInput Driver
    ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 2.0
(II) intel: Driver for Intel Integrated Graphics Chipsets: i810,
    i810-dc100, i810e, i815, i830M, 845G, 852GM/855GM, 865G, 915G,
    E7221 (i915), 915GM, 945G, 945GM, 945GME, 965G, G35, 965Q, 946GZ,
    965GM, 965GME/GLE, G33, Q35, Q33, Intel Integrated Graphics Device
(II) Primary Device is: PCI 00:02:0
(--) Chipset 845G found
(II) resource ranges after xf86ClaimFixedResources() call:
    [0] -1    0    0x00100000 - 0x2fffffff (0x2ff00000) MX[b]E(B)
    [1] -1    0    0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[b]
    [2] -1    0    0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[b]
    [3] -1    0    0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[b]
    [4] -1    0    0xd0100000 - 0xd0100fff (0x1000) MX[b]
    [5] -1    0    0xd0080800 - 0xd00808ff (0x100) MX[b]
    [6] -1    0    0xd0080c00 - 0xd0080dff (0x200) MX[b]
    [7] -1    0    0x30000000 - 0x300003ff (0x400) MX[b]
    [8] -1    0    0xd0080000 - 0xd00803ff (0x400) MX[b]
    [9] -1    0    0xe0000000 - 0xdfffffff (0x0) MX[b]O
    [10] -1    0    0xd0000000 - 0xd007ffff (0x80000) MX[b](B)
    [11] -1    0    0xd8000000 - 0xdfffffff (0x8000000) MX[b](B)
    [12] -1    0    0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[b]
    [13] -1    0    0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[b]
    [14] -1    0    0x00003000 - 0x0000303f (0x40) IX[b]
    [15] -1    0    0x00002000 - 0x0000203f (0x40) IX[b]
    [16] -1    0    0x00002400 - 0x000024ff (0x100) IX[b]
    [17] -1    0    0x00001c00 - 0x00001c1f (0x20) IX[b]
    [18] -1    0    0x00002800 - 0x0000280f (0x10) IX[b]
    [19] -1    0    0x000001f0 - 0x000001f0 (0x1) IX[b]
    [20] -1    0    0x000001f0 - 0x000001f7 (0x8) IX[b]
    [21] -1    0    0x000001f0 - 0x000001f0 (0x1) IX[b]
    [22] -1    0    0x000001f0 - 0x000001f7 (0x8) IX[b]
    [23] -1    0    0x00001800 - 0x0000181f (0x20) IX[b]
    [24] -1    0    0x00001400 - 0x0000141f (0x20) IX[b]
    [25] -1    0    0x00001000 - 0x0000101f (0x20) IX[b]
(II) resource ranges after probing:
    [0] -1    0    0x00100000 - 0x2fffffff (0x2ff00000) MX[b]E(B)
    [1] -1    0    0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[b]
    [2] -1    0    0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[b]
    [3] -1    0    0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[b]
    [4] -1    0    0xd0100000 - 0xd0100fff (0x1000) MX[b]
    [5] -1    0    0xd0080800 - 0xd00808ff (0x100) MX[b]
    [6] -1    0    0xd0080c00 - 0xd0080dff (0x200) MX[b]
    [7] -1    0    0x30000000 - 0x300003ff (0x400) MX[b]
    [8] -1    0    0xd0080000 - 0xd00803ff (0x400) MX[b]
    [9] -1    0    0xe0000000 - 0xdfffffff (0x0) MX[b]O
    [10] -1    0    0xd0000000 - 0xd007ffff (0x80000) MX[b](B)
    [11] -1    0    0xd8000000 - 0xdfffffff (0x8000000) MX[b](B)
    [12] 0    0    0x000a0000 - 0x000affff (0x10000) MS[b]
    [13] 0    0    0x000b0000 - 0x000b7fff (0x8000) MS[b]
    [14] 0    0    0x000b8000 - 0x000bffff (0x8000) MS[b]
    [15] -1    0    0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[b]
    [16] -1    0    0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[b]
    [17] -1    0    0x00003000 - 0x0000303f (0x40) IX[b]
    [18] -1    0    0x00002000 - 0x0000203f (0x40) IX[b]
    [19] -1    0    0x00002400 - 0x000024ff (0x100) IX[b]
    [20] -1    0    0x00001c00 - 0x00001c1f (0x20) IX[b]
    [21] -1    0    0x00002800 - 0x0000280f (0x10) IX[b]
    [22] -1    0    0x000001f0 - 0x000001f0 (0x1) IX[b]
    [23] -1    0    0x000001f0 - 0x000001f7 (0x8) IX[b]
    [24] -1    0    0x000001f0 - 0x000001f0 (0x1) IX[b]
    [25] -1    0    0x000001f0 - 0x000001f7 (0x8) IX[b]
    [26] -1    0    0x00001800 - 0x0000181f (0x20) IX[b]
    [27] -1    0    0x00001400 - 0x0000141f (0x20) IX[b]
    [28] -1    0    0x00001000 - 0x0000101f (0x20) IX[b]
    [29] 0    0    0x000003b0 - 0x000003bb (0xc) IS[b]
    [30] 0    0    0x000003c0 - 0x000003df (0x20) IS[b]
(II) Setting vga for screen 0.
(II) Loading sub module "int10"
(II) LoadModule: "int10"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules//libint10.so
(II) Module int10: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
    compiled for 1.4.2, module version = 1.0.0
    ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 2.0
(II) Loading sub module "vbe"
(II) LoadModule: "vbe"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules//libvbe.so
(II) Module vbe: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
    compiled for 1.4.2, module version = 1.1.0
    ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 2.0
(II) Loading sub module "vgahw"
(II) LoadModule: "vgahw"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules//libvgahw.so
(II) Module vgahw: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
    compiled for 1.4.2, module version = 0.1.0
    ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 2.0
(==) intel(0): Depth 24, (==) framebuffer bpp 32
(==) intel(0): RGB weight 888
(==) intel(0): Default visual is TrueColor
(**) intel(0): Option "AccelMethod" "EXA"
(II) intel(0): Integrated Graphics Chipset: Intel(R) 845G
(--) intel(0): Chipset: "845G"
(--) intel(0): Linear framebuffer at 0xD8000000
(--) intel(0): IO registers at addr 0xD0000000
(II) intel(0): 1 display pipe available.
(**) intel(0): Using EXA for acceleration
(II) Loading sub module "ddc"
(II) LoadModule: "ddc"(II) Module "ddc" already built-in
(II) Loading sub module "i2c"
(II) LoadModule: "i2c"(II) Module "i2c" already built-in
(II) intel(0): Output VGA using monitor section Monitor0
(II) intel(0): I2C bus "CRTDDC_A" initialized.
(II) intel(0): I2C bus "DVODDC_D" initialized.
(II) Loading sub module "sil164"
(II) LoadModule: "sil164"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//sil164.so
(II) Module sil164: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
    compiled for 1.4.2, module version = 1.0.0
    ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 2.0
(II) intel(0): I2C bus "DVOI2C_E" initialized.
(II) Loading sub module "ch7xxx"
(II) LoadModule: "ch7xxx"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//ch7xxx.so
(II) Module ch7xxx: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
    compiled for 1.4.2, module version = 1.0.0
    ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 2.0
(II) intel(0): I2C bus "DVOI2C_E" removed.
(II) intel(0): I2C bus "DVOI2C_E" initialized.
(II) Loading sub module "ivch"
(II) LoadModule: "ivch"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//ivch.so
(II) Module ivch: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
    compiled for 1.4.2, module version = 1.0.0
    ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 2.0
(II) intel(0): I2C bus "DVOI2C_E" removed.
(II) intel(0): I2C bus "DVOI2C_B" initialized.
(II) Loading sub module "tfp410"
(II) LoadModule: "tfp410"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//tfp410.so
(II) Module tfp410: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
    compiled for 1.4.2, module version = 1.0.0
    ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 2.0
(II) intel(0): I2C bus "DVOI2C_B" removed.
(II) intel(0): I2C bus "DVOI2C_E" initialized.
(II) Loading sub module "ch7017"
(II) LoadModule: "ch7017"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//ch7017.so
(II) Module ch7017: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
    compiled for 1.4.2, module version = 1.0.0
    ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 2.0
(II) intel(0): I2C bus "DVOI2C_E" removed.
(II) intel(0): I2C bus "DVOI2C_E" initialized.
(II) intel(0): I2C bus "DVOI2C_E" removed.
(II) intel(0): I2C bus "DVODDC_D" removed.
(II) intel(0): I2C device "CRTDDC_A:ddc2" registered at address 0xA0.
(II) intel(0): EDID vendor "CMO", prod id 8744
(II) intel(0): Using EDID range info for horizontal sync
(II) intel(0): Using EDID range info for vertical refresh
(II) intel(0): Printing DDC gathered Modelines:
(II) intel(0): Modeline "1680x1050"x0.0  146.25  1680 1784 1960 2240  1050 1053 1059 1089 -hsync +vsync (65.3 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "800x600"x0.0   40.00  800 840 968 1056  600 601 605 628 +hsync +vsync (37.9 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "800x600"x0.0   36.00  800 824 896 1024  600 601 603 625 +hsync +vsync (35.2 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "640x480"x0.0   31.50  640 656 720 840  480 481 484 500 -hsync -vsync (37.5 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "640x480"x0.0   31.50  640 664 704 832  480 489 491 520 -hsync -vsync (37.9 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "640x480"x0.0   30.24  640 704 768 864  480 483 486 525 -hsync -vsync (35.0 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "640x480"x0.0   25.20  640 656 752 800  480 490 492 525 -hsync -vsync (31.5 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "720x400"x0.0   28.32  720 738 846 900  400 412 414 449 -hsync +vsync (31.5 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "1280x1024"x0.0  135.00  1280 1296 1440 1688  1024 1025 1028 1066 +hsync +vsync (80.0 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "1024x768"x0.0   78.80  1024 1040 1136 1312  768 769 772 800 +hsync +vsync (60.1 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "1024x768"x0.0   75.00  1024 1048 1184 1328  768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync (56.5 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "1024x768"x0.0   65.00  1024 1048 1184 1344  768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync (48.4 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "832x624"x0.0   57.28  832 864 928 1152  624 625 628 667 -hsync -vsync (49.7 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "800x600"x0.0   49.50  800 816 896 1056  600 601 604 625 +hsync +vsync (46.9 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "800x600"x0.0   50.00  800 856 976 1040  600 637 643 666 +hsync +vsync (48.1 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "1280x1024"x59.9  109.00  1280 1368 1496 1712  1024 1027 1034 1063 -hsync +vsync (63.7 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "1280x960"x59.9  101.25  1280 1360 1488 1696  960 963 967 996 -hsync +vsync (59.7 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "1152x864"x74.8  104.00  1152 1224 1344 1536  864 867 871 905 -hsync +vsync (67.7 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "1440x900"x59.9  106.50  1440 1528 1672 1904  900 903 909 934 -hsync +vsync (55.9 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "1440x900"x75.0  136.75  1440 1536 1688 1936  900 903 909 942 -hsync +vsync (70.6 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "1680x1050"x60.0  146.25  1680 1784 1960 2240  1050 1053 1059 1089 -hsync +vsync (65.3 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "1280x720"x59.9   74.50  1280 1344 1472 1664  720 723 728 748 -hsync +vsync (44.8 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "1360x765"x59.8   84.50  1360 1432 1568 1776  765 768 773 795 -hsync +vsync (47.6 kHz)
(II) intel(0): EDID vendor "CMO", prod id 8744
(II) intel(0): Output VGA connected
(II) intel(0): Output VGA using initial mode 1680x1050
(II) intel(0): detected 128 kB GTT.
(II) intel(0): detected 8060 kB stolen memory.
(==) intel(0): video overlay key set to 0x101fe
(==) intel(0): Will not try to enable page flipping
(==) intel(0): Triple buffering disabled
(==) intel(0): Intel XvMC decoder disabled
(==) intel(0): Using gamma correction (1.0, 1.0, 1.0)
(**) intel(0): Display dimensions: (338, 211) mm
(WW) intel(0): Probed monitor is 470x300 mm, using Displaysize 338x211 mm
(**) intel(0): DPI set to (126, 202)
(II) Loading sub module "fb"
(II) LoadModule: "fb"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules//libfb.so
(II) Module fb: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
    compiled for 1.4.2, module version = 1.0.0
    ABI class: X.Org ANSI C Emulation, version 0.3
(II) Loading sub module "exa"
(II) LoadModule: "exa"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules//libexa.so
(II) Module exa: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
    compiled for 1.4.2, module version = 2.2.0
    ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 2.0
(II) Loading sub module "ramdac"
(II) LoadModule: "ramdac"(II) Module "ramdac" already built-in
(II) intel(0): Comparing regs from server start up to After PreInit
(==) Depth 24 pixmap format is 32 bpp
(II) do I need RAC?  No, I don't.
(II) resource ranges after preInit:
    [0] 0    0    0xd0000000 - 0xd007ffff (0x80000) MS[b]
    [1] 0    0    0xd8000000 - 0xdfffffff (0x8000000) MS[b]
    [2] -1    0    0x00100000 - 0x2fffffff (0x2ff00000) MX[b]E(B)
    [3] -1    0    0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[b]
    [4] -1    0    0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[b]
    [5] -1    0    0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[b]
    [6] -1    0    0xd0100000 - 0xd0100fff (0x1000) MX[b]
    [7] -1    0    0xd0080800 - 0xd00808ff (0x100) MX[b]
    [8] -1    0    0xd0080c00 - 0xd0080dff (0x200) MX[b]
    [9] -1    0    0x30000000 - 0x300003ff (0x400) MX[b]
    [10] -1    0    0xd0080000 - 0xd00803ff (0x400) MX[b]
    [11] -1    0    0xe0000000 - 0xdfffffff (0x0) MX[b]O
    [12] -1    0    0xd0000000 - 0xd007ffff (0x80000) MX[b](B)
    [13] -1    0    0xd8000000 - 0xdfffffff (0x8000000) MX[b](B)
    [14] 0    0    0x000a0000 - 0x000affff (0x10000) MS[b](OprD)
    [15] 0    0    0x000b0000 - 0x000b7fff (0x8000) MS[b](OprD)
    [16] 0    0    0x000b8000 - 0x000bffff (0x8000) MS[b](OprD)
    [17] -1    0    0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[b]
    [18] -1    0    0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[b]
    [19] -1    0    0x00003000 - 0x0000303f (0x40) IX[b]
    [20] -1    0    0x00002000 - 0x0000203f (0x40) IX[b]
    [21] -1    0    0x00002400 - 0x000024ff (0x100) IX[b]
    [22] -1    0    0x00001c00 - 0x00001c1f (0x20) IX[b]
    [23] -1    0    0x00002800 - 0x0000280f (0x10) IX[b]
    [24] -1    0    0x000001f0 - 0x000001f0 (0x1) IX[b]
    [25] -1    0    0x000001f0 - 0x000001f7 (0x8) IX[b]
    [26] -1    0    0x000001f0 - 0x000001f0 (0x1) IX[b]
    [27] -1    0    0x000001f0 - 0x000001f7 (0x8) IX[b]
    [28] -1    0    0x00001800 - 0x0000181f (0x20) IX[b]
    [29] -1    0    0x00001400 - 0x0000141f (0x20) IX[b]
    [30] -1    0    0x00001000 - 0x0000101f (0x20) IX[b]
    [31] 0    0    0x000003b0 - 0x000003bb (0xc) IS[b](OprU)
    [32] 0    0    0x000003c0 - 0x000003df (0x20) IS[b](OprU)
(II) intel(0): Kernel reported 110336 total, 1 used
(II) intel(0): I830CheckAvailableMemory: 441340 kB available
drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
drmOpenDevice: open result is 8, (OK)
drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
drmOpenDevice: open result is 8, (OK)
drmOpenByBusid: Searching for BusID pci:0000:00:02.0
drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
drmOpenDevice: open result is 8, (OK)
drmOpenByBusid: drmOpenMinor returns 8
drmOpenByBusid: drmGetBusid reports pci:0000:00:02.0
(II) [drm] DRM interface version 1.3
(II) [drm] DRM open master succeeded.
(II) intel(0): [drm] Using the DRM lock SAREA also for drawables.
(II) intel(0): [drm] framebuffer mapped by ddx driver
(II) intel(0): [drm] added 1 reserved context for kernel
(II) intel(0): X context handle = 0x1
(II) intel(0): [drm] installed DRM signal handler
(**) intel(0): Framebuffer compression disabled
(**) intel(0): Tiling enabled
(==) intel(0): VideoRam: 131072 KB
(II) intel(0): Attempting memory allocation with tiled buffers.
(WW) intel(0): Failed to allocate texture space.
(II) intel(0): Tiled allocation failed.
(II) intel(0): Attempting memory allocation with untiled buffers.
(II) intel(0): Untiled allocation successful.
(II) intel(0): [drm] Registers = 0xd0000000
(II) intel(0): [drm] ring buffer = 0xd8000000
(II) intel(0): [drm] mapped front buffer at 0xd87e0000, handle = 0xd87e0000
(II) intel(0): [drm] mapped back buffer at 0xdb42c000, handle = 0xdb42c000
(II) intel(0): [drm] mapped depth buffer at 0xdbf3f000, handle = 0xdbf3f000
(II) intel(0): [drm] mapped classic textures at 0xdca52000, handle = 0xdca52000
(II) intel(0): [drm] Initialized kernel agp heap manager, 33554432
(II) intel(0): [dri] visual configs initialized
(II) intel(0): Page Flipping disabled
(==) intel(0): Write-combining range (0xd8000000,0x8000000)
(II) intel(0): vgaHWGetIOBase: hwp->IOBase is 0x03d0, hwp->PIOOffset is 0x0000
(**) intel(0): Option "MigrationHeuristic" "greedy"
(II) EXA(0): Offscreen pixmap area of 34836480 bytes
(II) EXA(0): Driver registered support for the following operations:
(II)         Solid
(II)         Copy
(II)         Composite (RENDER acceleration)
(==) intel(0): Backing store disabled
(==) intel(0): Silken mouse enabled
(II) intel(0): Initializing HW Cursor
(II) intel(0): [DRI] installation complete
(II) intel(0): xf86BindGARTMemory: bind key 0 at 0x007df000 (pgoffset 2015)
(II) intel(0): xf86BindGARTMemory: bind key 1 at 0x007e0000 (pgoffset 2016)
(II) intel(0): xf86BindGARTMemory: bind key 2 at 0x012f3000 (pgoffset 4851)
(II) intel(0): xf86BindGARTMemory: bind key 3 at 0x0342c000 (pgoffset 13356)
(II) intel(0): xf86BindGARTMemory: bind key 4 at 0x03f3f000 (pgoffset 16191)
(II) intel(0): xf86BindGARTMemory: bind key 5 at 0x04a52000 (pgoffset 19026)
(II) intel(0): Fixed memory allocation layout:
(II) intel(0): 0x00000000-0x0001ffff: ring buffer (128 kB)
(II) intel(0): 0x00020000-0x00024fff: HW cursors (20 kB)
(II) intel(0): 0x00025000-0x0002cfff: logical 3D context (32 kB)
(II) intel(0): 0x007df000:            end of stolen memory
(II) intel(0): 0x007df000-0x007dffff: overlay registers (4 kB, 0x0000000011fff000 physical
)
(II) intel(0): 0x007e0000-0x012f2fff: front buffer (11340 kB)
(II) intel(0): 0x012f3000-0x0342bfff: exa offscreen (34020 kB)
(II) intel(0): 0x0342c000-0x03f3efff: back buffer (11340 kB)
(II) intel(0): 0x03f3f000-0x04a51fff: depth buffer (11340 kB)
(II) intel(0): 0x04a52000-0x06a51fff: classic textures (32768 kB)
(II) intel(0): 0x08000000:            end of aperture
(II) intel(0): Output configuration:
(II) intel(0):   Pipe A is on
(II) intel(0):   Display plane A is now enabled and connected to pipe A.
(II) intel(0):   Output VGA is connected to pipe A
(II) intel(0): [drm] dma control initialized, using IRQ 16
(II) intel(0): RandR 1.2 enabled, ignore the following RandR disabled message.
(**) Option "dpms"
(**) intel(0): DPMS enabled
(II) intel(0): Set up overlay video
(II) intel(0): direct rendering: Enabled
(--) RandR disabled
(II) Initializing built-in extension MIT-SHM
(II) Initializing built-in extension XInputExtension
(II) Initializing built-in extension XTEST
(II) Initializing built-in extension XKEYBOARD
(II) Initializing built-in extension XC-APPGROUP
(II) Initializing built-in extension XAccessControlExtension
(II) Initializing built-in extension SECURITY
(II) Initializing built-in extension XINERAMA
(II) Initializing built-in extension XFIXES
(II) Initializing built-in extension XFree86-Bigfont
(II) Initializing built-in extension RENDER
(II) Initializing built-in extension RANDR
(II) Initializing built-in extension COMPOSITE
(II) Initializing built-in extension DAMAGE
(II) Initializing built-in extension XEVIE
drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
drmOpenDevice: open result is 9, (OK)
drmOpenByBusid: Searching for BusID pci:0000:00:02.0
drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
drmOpenDevice: open result is 9, (OK)
drmOpenByBusid: drmOpenMinor returns 9
drmOpenByBusid: drmGetBusid reports pci:0000:00:02.0
(WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x23
(WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x24
(WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x25
(WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x26
(WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x27
(WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x28
(WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x29
(WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x2a
(WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x2b
(WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x2c
(WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x2d
(WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x2e
(WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x2f
(WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x30
(WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x31
(WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x32
(II) AIGLX: Loaded and initialized /usr/lib/xorg/modules/dri/i915_dri.so
(II) GLX: Initialized DRI GL provider for screen 0
(II) intel(0): Setting screen physical size to 338 x 211
(**) Option "Protocol" "auto"
(**) Mouse0: Device: "/dev/input/mice"
(**) Mouse0: Protocol: "auto"
(**) Option "CorePointer"
(**) Mouse0: always reports core events
(**) Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
(==) Mouse0: Emulate3Buttons, Emulate3Timeout: 50
(**) Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7"
(**) Mouse0: ZAxisMapping: buttons 4, 5, 6 and 7
(**) Mouse0: Buttons: 11
(**) Mouse0: Sensitivity: 1
(**) Option "CoreKeyboard"
(**) Generic Keyboard: always reports core events
(**) Option "Protocol" "standard"
(**) Generic Keyboard: Protocol: standard
(**) Option "AutoRepeat" "500 30"
(**) Option "XkbRules" "xorg"
(**) Generic Keyboard: XkbRules: "xorg"
(**) Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
(**) Generic Keyboard: XkbModel: "pc105"
(**) Option "XkbLayout" "gb"
(**) Generic Keyboard: XkbLayout: "gb"
(**) Option "XkbOptions" "altwin:meta_win,lv3:ralt_switch"
(**) Generic Keyboard: XkbOptions: "altwin:meta_win,lv3:ralt_switch"
(**) Option "CustomKeycodes" "off"
(**) Generic Keyboard: CustomKeycodes disabled
(II) evaluating device (Generic Keyboard)
(II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Generic Keyboard" (type: KEYBOARD)
(II) evaluating device (Mouse0)
(II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Mouse0" (type: MOUSE)
(--) Mouse0: PnP-detected protocol: "ExplorerPS/2"
(II) Mouse0: ps2EnableDataReporting: succeeded

/izo\

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#4 2008-08-06 15:14:45

freakcode
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From: São Paulo - Brazil
Registered: 2007-11-03
Posts: 410
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Re: GDM and GNOME has died...

Xorg isn't crashing. I guess it should be GDM or gnome-session itself that are crashing for some reason and throwing you back to login / restarting Xorg. Try not using GDM, install KDM, XDM or Slim.

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#5 2008-08-06 15:40:28

davvil
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Registered: 2008-05-06
Posts: 165

Re: GDM and GNOME has died...

I also had issues with gnome after this morning's update. The touchpad of my laptop stopped working when gnome was starting. I tracked it down to gsynaptic. After uninstalling it everything works ok.

I do not know if this is related, as gdm and gnome started on my system, but perhaps the error lies in some related library.

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#6 2008-08-06 16:56:29

zenlord
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From: Belgium
Registered: 2006-05-24
Posts: 1,221
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Re: GDM and GNOME has died...

Izobalax wrote:

Thanks for the response! I've looked at the log, but I'm afraid a large chunk of it means very little to me.

It won't help you in this situation, but since the Xorg.log always displays 'EE' for errors and 'WW' for warnings, you can easily cut out the large, irrelevant chunks by doing

# cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep '^EE'
and
# cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep '^WW'

I know it sounds silly, but I wanted to find how to combine these two commands into one, and I failed. Searching man-pages for grep and google for regular expressions did not help sad

Zl.

Last edited by zenlord (2008-08-06 16:57:02)

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#7 2008-08-06 17:10:12

Mr Green
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From: U.K.
Registered: 2003-12-21
Posts: 5,899
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Re: GDM and GNOME has died...

like have you updated nvidia or kernel? if you cannot log into any desktop fire up startx x from console try and get some error messages that way ... check you pacman.log for what you have recently installed/updated ...

We could help more but there is very little to go on atm

You can mount the Arch partition from Knoppix even chroot into it check wiki for more info

MrG

Mr Green

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#8 2008-08-06 17:14:22

Garns
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Registered: 2008-05-28
Posts: 239

Re: GDM and GNOME has died...

zenlord wrote:
# cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep '^EE'
and
# cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep '^WW'

I know it sounds silly, but I wanted to find how to combine these two commands into one, and I failed. Searching man-pages for grep and google for regular expressions did not help sad

I think you're looking for something like:

grep "^(WW)\|^(EE)"

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#9 2008-08-07 14:24:17

zenlord
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From: Belgium
Registered: 2006-05-24
Posts: 1,221
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Re: GDM and GNOME has died...

Garns wrote:

I think you're looking for something like:

Yep! Stupid of me not to escape the | ...

Now, carry on smile

Zl.

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