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#1 2008-08-12 18:07:11

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[SOLVED] touchpad and keyboard problem?

It seems that the new kernel has messed up something with my synaptics touchpad configuration. Anyone else experiencing this? I cannot use the rightside part to scroll vertically - it works for a moment after logging in, but then the mousepointer stalls a moment and the scrolling is rendered impossible.

#  cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep synap
(II) LoadModule: "synaptics"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input//synaptics_drv.so
(II) Module synaptics: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
(II) LoadModule: "synaptics"
(II) Reloading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input//synaptics_drv.so

I have no errors or warnings in my xorg.log, and my xorg.conf is configured as suggested in the wiki.

It stopped working today, after having updated my system to the new kernel yesterday evening before I went to sleep. As I -Syu every day, it is very unlikely that something else messed up the synaptics config (or it should be the maybe obvious 'module-init-tools' ?):

[2008-08-10 22:23] synchronizing package lists
[2008-08-10 22:23] starting full system upgrade
[2008-08-10 22:25] upgraded module-init-tools (3.2.2-6 -> 3.4-1)
[2008-08-10 22:27] upgraded kernel26 (2.6.25.11-1 -> 2.6.26.2-1)
[2008-08-10 22:27] upgraded klibc (1.5-5 -> 1.5-6)
[2008-08-10 22:27] upgraded klibc-extras (2.4-1 -> 2.4-2)
[2008-08-10 22:27] upgraded klibc-kbd (1.15.20080312-5 -> 1.15.20080312-6)
[2008-08-10 22:27] upgraded klibc-module-init-tools (3.2.2-3 -> 3.4-1)
[2008-08-10 22:27] upgraded klibc-udev (116-3 -> 116-4)
[2008-08-10 22:27] upgraded ndiswrapper-utils (1.52-1 -> 1.53-1)
[2008-08-10 22:27] module configuration already contains alias directive
[2008-08-10 22:27] 
[2008-08-10 22:27] upgraded ndiswrapper (1.52-4 -> 1.53-1)

Any hints would be much appreciated... THX!

Zl.

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#2 2008-08-12 20:29:00

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Re: [SOLVED] touchpad and keyboard problem?

In my messages.log, I see these kind of errors constantly:

Aug 12 22:24:16 lt-vincent psmouse.c: TouchPad at isa0060/serio2/input0 lost sync at byte 1
Aug 12 22:24:16 lt-vincent psmouse.c: issuing reconnect request
Aug 12 22:25:36 lt-vincent atkbd.c: Unknown key pressed (translated set 2, code 0x0 on isa0060/serio0).
Aug 12 22:25:36 lt-vincent atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes 00 <keycode>' to make it known.
Aug 12 22:25:36 lt-vincent atkbd.c: Spurious NAK on isa0060/serio0. Some program might be trying access hardware directly.
Aug 12 22:25:36 lt-vincent psmouse.c: TouchPad at isa0060/serio2/input0 lost sync at byte 4
Aug 12 22:25:36 lt-vincent psmouse.c: TouchPad at isa0060/serio2/input0 lost sync at byte 1
Aug 12 22:25:36 lt-vincent psmouse.c: TouchPad at isa0060/serio2/input0 - driver resynched.

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#3 2008-08-12 20:44:46

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Re: [SOLVED] touchpad and keyboard problem?

OK, so googling I found on the Ubuntu forums that it is related to wireless firmware, and I remembered I changed the /etc/mkinitcpio.conf to load the firmware module in the kernel.

Now I removed that module, rebuilt the kernel and rebooted and everything seems to be working fine.

If this is the solution, then I wouldn't be able to use my built-in wifi card together with (all functions of) my touchpad. Luckily I use a pcmcia wifi-adapter to make use of WPA2...

Zl.

/EDIT: Not solved - it only took a little while longer than the previous time. So no firmware loading into the kernel and using ndiswrapper for an Atheros 5008-chipset (which will probably be supported in the 2.6.27-kernel) buggers the scroll-function of my touchpad since I upgraded the kernel from .25 to .26

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#4 2008-08-13 06:55:51

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Re: [SOLVED] touchpad and keyboard problem?

Aug 13 08:49:19 lt-vincent ACPI: EC: missing confirmations, switch off interrupt mode.
Aug 13 08:49:51 lt-vincent atkbd.c: Unknown key pressed (translated set 2, code 0x0 on isa0060/serio0).
Aug 13 08:49:51 lt-vincent atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes 00 <keycode>' to make it known.
Aug 13 08:49:51 lt-vincent psmouse.c: TouchPad at isa0060/serio2/input0 lost sync at byte 1
Aug 13 08:49:51 lt-vincent psmouse.c: TouchPad at isa0060/serio2/input0 lost sync at byte 1
Aug 13 08:49:51 lt-vincent atkbd.c: Spurious NAK on isa0060/serio0. Some program might be trying access hardware directly.
Aug 13 08:49:51 lt-vincent psmouse.c: TouchPad at isa0060/serio2/input0 lost sync at byte 1
Aug 13 08:49:51 lt-vincent psmouse.c: TouchPad at isa0060/serio2/input0 lost sync at byte 1
Aug 13 08:49:51 lt-vincent psmouse.c: TouchPad at isa0060/serio2/input0 lost sync at byte 1
Aug 13 08:49:51 lt-vincent psmouse.c: issuing reconnect request

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#5 2008-08-13 07:17:37

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Re: [SOLVED] touchpad and keyboard problem?

Seems like I'm having more trouble than just the scroll-function, because every 3 minutes my mouse freezes for about 5 seconds and then suddenly, the keyboard won't work anymore (hence there is no typed text in the above post)

Any hints?

Zl.

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#6 2008-08-13 07:31:06

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Re: [SOLVED] touchpad and keyboard problem?

Another thread on the net insinuated it had to do with SATA-drivers, and I remembered I removed the hooks 'SATA SCSI' in mkinitcpio.conf. Boot times were a lot better, but I guess I can wait a little longer if that means I still get to use my touchpad and keyboard :-)

Does anyone know what these hooks have to do with my above problem?

Zl.

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#7 2008-08-13 07:37:35

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Re: [SOLVED] touchpad and keyboard problem?

OK, second time I edit the subject to SOLVED to find out some moments later that the same error messages keep cluttering my /var/log/messages.

I still haven't encountered any mouse freezes or keyboard malfunctions, but I guess this is only a matter of time again if I have the same error messages...

PS: before my last reboot, I changed everything kernel-related back to what it was previous to the problems (I added some HOOKS in mkinitcpio.conf and removed some)

Zl.

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#8 2008-08-16 06:38:22

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Re: [SOLVED] touchpad and keyboard problem?

Still not solved.

The laptop was on during the night and when I came back, the messages.log was clean. I touched the touchpad and got the same errors, starting with a 'unknown key pressed' by atkbd.c, which is really strange, because up until then I hadn't even touched the keyboard.:

Aug 16 08:31:34 lt-vincent atkbd.c: Unknown key pressed (translated set 2, code 0x0 on isa0060/serio0).
Aug 16 08:31:34 lt-vincent atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes 00 <keycode>' to make it known.
Aug 16 08:31:34 lt-vincent psmouse.c: TouchPad at isa0060/serio2/input0 lost sync at byte 4
Aug 16 08:31:34 lt-vincent atkbd.c: Spurious NAK on isa0060/serio0. Some program might be trying access hardware directly.
Aug 16 08:31:34 lt-vincent psmouse.c: TouchPad at isa0060/serio2/input0 lost sync at byte 1
Aug 16 08:31:34 lt-vincent psmouse.c: TouchPad at isa0060/serio2/input0 - driver resynched.
Aug 16 08:32:20 lt-vincent atkbd.c: Unknown key pressed (translated set 2, code 0x0 on isa0060/serio0).
Aug 16 08:32:20 lt-vincent atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes 00 <keycode>' to make it known.
Aug 16 08:32:20 lt-vincent atkbd.c: Spurious NAK on isa0060/serio0. Some program might be trying access hardware directly.
Aug 16 08:32:20 lt-vincent psmouse.c: TouchPad at isa0060/serio2/input0 lost sync at byte 4
Aug 16 08:32:20 lt-vincent psmouse.c: TouchPad at isa0060/serio2/input0 lost sync at byte 1
Aug 16 08:32:20 lt-vincent psmouse.c: TouchPad at isa0060/serio2/input0 - driver resynched.

Anyone? Especially the freezing of the keyboard is REALLY annoying. The loss of the scroll funtion I can live with (at least temporarily) smile

I think both atkbd.c and psmouse.c are fighting over the control of the touchpad...

Zl.

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#9 2008-08-16 10:50:32

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Re: [SOLVED] touchpad and keyboard problem?

OK, found some more information on the internet, specifically in the gentoo wiki.

Apparently my keyboard controller (i8042) has known problems with ACPI and synaptics, so I had to add 'i8042.noacpi' to the kernel line in my /boot/grub/menu/lst.

So, 10 minutes after the reboot I don't see any reference to the psmouse or atkbd-error messages. I guess this topic can finally be solved (fingers crossed smile)

Zl.
/EDIT: if someone has a (rough) idea what triggered the problems, then please enlighten me. I'm 100% sure that I did not have these problems last weekend, and since I have upgraded the kernel and did some tweaking...

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#10 2008-08-16 11:25:14

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Re: [SOLVED] touchpad and keyboard problem?

/me feels like cursing.

First errormessages re-occur after 30 minutes of using the laptop, so not solved. I will look further.

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#11 2008-08-16 12:33:41

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Re: [SOLVED] touchpad and keyboard problem?

Also the 'i8042.nomux=1' -kerneloption did not work...

Zl.

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#12 2008-08-17 08:02:33

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Re: [SOLVED] touchpad and keyboard problem?

Try booting with the "irqpoll" and perhaps "noacpi" and/or "noapic"

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#13 2008-08-17 09:40:50

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Re: [SOLVED] touchpad and keyboard problem?

I'll try it the next time I see the errors re-occurring. so far so good: 30 minutes online and still no errors or freezes. Still using the nomux-option.

THX for your reply - makes me feel a little less alone out here smile

Zl.

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#14 2008-08-17 22:46:50

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Re: [SOLVED] touchpad and keyboard problem?

No problem.  I know that feeling and I've had trackpad issues in the past so I thought I'd see if those options are useful to you. wink

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#15 2008-09-03 23:03:42

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Re: [SOLVED] touchpad and keyboard problem?

same problem with touchpad here on a fujitsu-siemens amilo A7640

the mouse cursor starts jumping over the place, and clicking all and everthing. dmesg brings the messages posted above with "lost sync"..

since that problem seems to have sth to do with wireless devices:
i use D-Link-G650+ card with tiacx driver.

this problem does NOT occure with arch's kernel 2.6.25 and ubuntu's kernel 2.6.15.

will try the hints posted in this thread and report in later.


greetings.


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#16 2008-09-03 23:33:30

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Re: [SOLVED] touchpad and keyboard problem?

okay, nomux option didn't help..

here is some more dmesg ouput..

atkbd.c: Unknown key pressed (translated set 2, code 0x0 on isa0060/serio0).
atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes 00 <keycode>' to make it known.
atkbd.c: Spurious NAK on isa0060/serio0. Some program might be trying access hardware directly.
psmouse.c: TouchPad at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost sync at byte 4
psmouse.c: TouchPad at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost sync at byte 1
psmouse.c: TouchPad at isa0060/serio1/input0 - driver resynched.
atkbd.c: Unknown key pressed (translated set 2, code 0x0 on isa0060/serio0).
atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes 00 <keycode>' to make it known.
atkbd.c: Spurious NAK on isa0060/serio0. Some program might be trying access hardware directly.
psmouse.c: TouchPad at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost sync at byte 1
psmouse.c: TouchPad at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost sync at byte 1
psmouse.c: TouchPad at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost sync at byte 1
psmouse.c: TouchPad at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost sync at byte 1
psmouse.c: TouchPad at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost sync at byte 1
psmouse.c: issuing reconnect request
atkbd.c: Unknown key pressed (translated set 2, code 0x0 on isa0060/serio0).
atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes 00 <keycode>' to make it known.
atkbd.c: Spurious NAK on isa0060/serio0. Some program might be trying access hardware directly.
psmouse.c: TouchPad at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost sync at byte 1
psmouse.c: TouchPad at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost sync at byte 1
psmouse.c: TouchPad at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost sync at byte 1
psmouse.c: TouchPad at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost sync at byte 1
psmouse.c: TouchPad at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost sync at byte 1
psmouse.c: issuing reconnect request
NET: Registered protocol family 10
lo: Disabled Privacy Extensions
ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready
get_mask 0x00000000, set_mask 0x00000040
setting RXconfig to 2010:0FDD
get_mask 0x00000000, set_mask 0x00000000 - after update
wlan0: duplicate address detected!
atkbd.c: Unknown key pressed (translated set 2, code 0x0 on isa0060/serio0).
atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes 00 <keycode>' to make it known.
atkbd.c: Spurious NAK on isa0060/serio0. Some program might be trying access hardware directly.
psmouse.c: TouchPad at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost sync at byte 1
psmouse.c: TouchPad at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost sync at byte 1
psmouse.c: TouchPad at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost sync at byte 1
psmouse.c: TouchPad at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost sync at byte 1
psmouse.c: TouchPad at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost sync at byte 1
psmouse.c: issuing reconnect request
atkbd.c: Unknown key pressed (translated set 2, code 0x0 on isa0060/serio0).
atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes 00 <keycode>' to make it known.
atkbd.c: Spurious ACK on isa0060/serio0. Some program might be trying access hardware directly.
Unable to query Synaptics hardware.
atkbd.c: Unknown key pressed (translated set 2, code 0x0 on isa0060/serio0).
atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes 00 <keycode>' to make it known.
atkbd.c: Spurious NAK on isa0060/serio0. Some program might be trying access hardware directly.
Synaptics Touchpad, model: 1, fw: 5.9, id: 0x6eb1, caps: 0xa04711/0x40a
input: SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad as /class/input/input13
atkbd.c: Unknown key pressed (translated set 2, code 0x0 on isa0060/serio0).
atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes 00 <keycode>' to make it known.
atkbd.c: Spurious NAK on isa0060/serio0. Some program might be trying access hardware directly.
psmouse.c: TouchPad at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost sync at byte 1
psmouse.c: TouchPad at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost sync at byte 1
psmouse.c: TouchPad at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost sync at byte 1
psmouse.c: TouchPad at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost sync at byte 1
psmouse.c: TouchPad at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost sync at byte 1
psmouse.c: issuing reconnect request
atkbd.c: Unknown key pressed (translated set 2, code 0x0 on isa0060/serio0).
atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes 00 <keycode>' to make it known.
atkbd.c: Spurious ACK on isa0060/serio0. Some program might be trying access hardware directly.
Unable to query Synaptics hardware.
atkbd.c: Unknown key pressed (translated set 2, code 0x0 on isa0060/serio0).
atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes 00 <keycode>' to make it known.
atkbd.c: Spurious ACK on isa0060/serio0. Some program might be trying access hardware directly.
input: ImPS/2 Generic Wheel Mouse as /class/input/input14
atkbd.c: Unknown key pressed (translated set 2, code 0x0 on isa0060/serio0).
atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes 00 <keycode>' to make it known.
atkbd.c: Spurious ACK on isa0060/serio0. Some program might be trying access hardware directly.
psmouse.c: Wheel Mouse at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost synchronization, throwing 3 bytes away.
atkbd.c: Unknown key pressed (translated set 2, code 0x0 on isa0060/serio0).
atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes 00 <keycode>' to make it known.
atkbd.c: Spurious ACK on isa0060/serio0. Some program might be trying access hardware directly.
psmouse.c: Wheel Mouse at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost synchronization, throwing 3 bytes away.
atkbd.c: Unknown key pressed (translated set 2, code 0x0 on isa0060/serio0).
atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes 00 <keycode>' to make it known.
atkbd.c: Spurious NAK on isa0060/serio0. Some program might be trying access hardware directly.
psmouse.c: Wheel Mouse at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost synchronization, throwing 3 bytes away.
atkbd.c: Unknown key pressed (translated set 2, code 0x0 on isa0060/serio0).
atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes 00 <keycode>' to make it known.
atkbd.c: Spurious NAK on isa0060/serio0. Some program might be trying access hardware directly.
psmouse.c: Wheel Mouse at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost synchronization, throwing 3 bytes away.
atkbd.c: Unknown key pressed (translated set 2, code 0x0 on isa0060/serio0).
atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes 00 <keycode>' to make it known.
atkbd.c: Spurious NAK on isa0060/serio0. Some program might be trying access hardware directly.
psmouse.c: Wheel Mouse at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost synchronization, throwing 3 bytes away.
psmouse.c: resync failed, issuing reconnect request
Synaptics Touchpad, model: 1, fw: 5.9, id: 0x6eb1, caps: 0xa04711/0x40a
input: SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad as /class/input/input15
atkbd.c: Unknown key pressed (translated set 2, code 0x0 on isa0060/serio0).
atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes 00 <keycode>' to make it known.
atkbd.c: Spurious NAK on isa0060/serio0. Some program might be trying access hardware directly.
psmouse.c: TouchPad at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost sync at byte 4
psmouse.c: TouchPad at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost sync at byte 1
psmouse.c: TouchPad at isa0060/serio1/input0 - driver resynched.
atkbd.c: Unknown key pressed (translated set 2, code 0x0 on isa0060/serio0).
atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes 00 <keycode>' to make it known.
atkbd.c: Spurious NAK on isa0060/serio0. Some program might be trying access hardware directly.
psmouse.c: TouchPad at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost sync at byte 1
psmouse.c: TouchPad at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost sync at byte 1
psmouse.c: TouchPad at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost sync at byte 1
psmouse.c: TouchPad at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost sync at byte 1
psmouse.c: TouchPad at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost sync at byte 1
psmouse.c: issuing reconnect request
atkbd.c: Unknown key pressed (translated set 2, code 0x0 on isa0060/serio0).
atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes 00 <keycode>' to make it known.
atkbd.c: Spurious NAK on isa0060/serio0. Some program might be trying access hardware directly.
psmouse.c: TouchPad at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost sync at byte 4
psmouse.c: TouchPad at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost sync at byte 1
psmouse.c: TouchPad at isa0060/serio1/input0 - driver resynched.
atkbd.c: Unknown key pressed (translated set 2, code 0x0 on isa0060/serio0).
atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes 00 <keycode>' to make it known.
atkbd.c: Spurious NAK on isa0060/serio0. Some program might be trying access hardware directly.
psmouse.c: TouchPad at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost sync at byte 1
psmouse.c: TouchPad at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost sync at byte 1
psmouse.c: TouchPad at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost sync at byte 1
psmouse.c: TouchPad at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost sync at byte 1
psmouse.c: TouchPad at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost sync at byte 1
psmouse.c: issuing reconnect request
atkbd.c: Unknown key pressed (translated set 2, code 0x0 on isa0060/serio0).
atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes 00 <keycode>' to make it known.
atkbd.c: Spurious NAK on isa0060/serio0. Some program might be trying access hardware directly.
psmouse.c: TouchPad at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost sync at byte 4
psmouse.c: TouchPad at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost sync at byte 1
psmouse.c: TouchPad at isa0060/serio1/input0 - driver resynched.

the behavior is like this:
i use touchpad, then i just stops and won't react until i stop use it for 3-4 secs. then it might start work again with synaptics driver loaded (if i'm lucky), if i'm not lucky, it will start work again with synaptic driver, but before doing this, jumping around, clickin all and everything and even keyboard sends signals like "5555555555555555" and such...

if i am even mor unlucky, the synaptics driver stops working and is not reloaded by X (so scrolling won't work), and in some cases touchpad stops working completely..

tried /dev/input/mouse0 and evdev. all the same.

every hint is welcome.. in the meantime i'll downgrade to 2.6.25.. at the moment the touchpad isn't working one more time..


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#17 2008-09-04 23:43:00

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Re: [SOLVED] touchpad and keyboard problem?

okay.. i guess i have a semi-solution..

i use evdev as driver now and added following line to modprobe.conf:

options psmouse resetafter=0

the "lost sync" messages do still appear, but the mouse cursor seems not to jump around and not to stutter. If anything will change, i'll report here.

seems that it's not a synaptics problem or any x problem, but a kernel issue.

some ppl have that touchpad/keyboard effects in different usecases.. eg. only when writing to an sd-card or using special wireless device.

if anyone knows more about this, please drop a line.


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#18 2008-09-14 20:35:04

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Re: [SOLVED] touchpad and keyboard problem?

hm..
though the mouse cursor behaves good except some (really) rare stops another problem that is pretty annoying: the keyboard can just stop working (no reaction on any key pressed) and doesn't work again until reboot.
2 times i had even another curious keyboard behaviuor: it worked like anyone would hold my "shift"-key. holding the capslock and pressing a character key resulted then in an uncapitalized letter.

again, this behaviour did _not_ appear with arch kernel 2.6.25. (and 2.6.15 ubuntu iirc)

Last edited by lynucs (2008-09-15 15:26:39)


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#19 2008-09-19 09:53:33

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Re: [SOLVED] touchpad and keyboard problem?

well, yesterday i added

i8042.nomux=1

and

i8042.panicblink=0

to kernel options and the keyboard freezes or touchpad problems did not appear the whole day. though i have to admit that yesterday i didn't use my wireless card, used ethernet.
i will test it with wireless today and report here.


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#20 2008-09-21 20:41:03

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Re: [SOLVED] touchpad and keyboard problem?

ok.. still keyboard freezes. noticed, that when the keyboard freezes, then even hardwarebutton to stop the fan does not work anymore.

noone else with that pain in the arse? smile


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#21 2008-09-23 21:59:35

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Re: [SOLVED] touchpad and keyboard problem?

hope it's ok that i'm doing logging here. even if i won't find a solution, maybe this will help anyone later.
an update:

somtimes the keyboard sends signal like some key is "hanging". In most cases IIRC, this is the key "h". which results in output like "hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh". in most cases the key hangs for a short time producing "only" 5-10 characters.

so today happened the following:
at the moment wenn the key begun to "hang", the focus was set on a pigdin window. that's why i saw, that the keyboard is hanging on a key. guess what. mouse was working but no other key on the keyboard was giving any effect. just like on keyboard freezes described earlier here.

so i assume, the keyboard "freezes" aren't actually real freezes, but are a "hanging key". i just didn't notice it, because at the time the keyboard "freezed" the focus was not on an input field/area.

i connected over ssh to the machine with hanging keyboard and tried to unload and load again the psmouse module. no effect.
then i tried to find a way to disable atkbd, but it seems it is compiled into kernel.
with a

DISPLAY=:0 xev

i manged to start xev on the hanging machine, and focused to xev-window to see what output it will generate.. and, oh wonder, the key stopped to hang.

what might cause that strange behaviour? maybe someone can answer it now with info provided?
is it possible, that it's not a bug in kernel (as said in some other threads) which is generally present, but that becomes active on special hardware only when any option is set in kernel's .configure? maybe i could try to use the .config of arch's 2.6.25 (where problem did not occure) and compile 2.6.26 with it? what do you think, might this work?
or maybe compiling atkbd as module (if possible at all) to reload it on hanging?

i'm really frustrated, i hope some one can tell me what's going on.

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#22 2008-10-30 09:08:37

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Re: [SOLVED] touchpad and keyboard problem?

Hey Lynucs, I just saw that you added to this thread. Unfortunately, I still have no solution, but someone else is having a similar problem, so I'm crossreferencing the threads: http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=58050

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#23 2008-10-30 16:09:17

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Re: [SOLVED] touchpad and keyboard problem?

I was having the same problems on a Toshiba Satellite 1005-S157. The only error at boot time was this:

atkbd.c: Spurious NAK on isa0060/serio0. Some program might be trying access hardware directly.

Randomly my keyboard would lock up, the caps lock light would blink, and I would have to do a hard reboot. I ended up rolling back to the 2.6.22 kernel and haven't had any problems since. I still get the Spurious NAK error though.

A quick question, have any of you tried doing a console login? If so, does it still lock up? Mine would still lock up and it would scroll quite a bit of stuff across the screen. I can't remember exactly what it was, but it ended with <end trace c(bunch of numbers)>.

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#24 2008-11-09 19:53:36

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Re: [SOLVED] touchpad and keyboard problem?

tehswift, didn't try it, will do when i'll have some time.

also when i will have time, i'll just use the .config of 2.6.25 for the new kernel and see, wether the problem is caused by the new config.

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#25 2008-11-17 14:48:17

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Re: [SOLVED] touchpad and keyboard problem?

Upgrading to the new 2.6.27.5-kernel solved at least the output of errormessages. I have not yet seen any strange mouse or keyboard behaviour.

Marking this thread as SOLVED (hopefully for the last time smile)

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