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Koonboi

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From: El Ghetto

Registered: 2008-08-14

Posts: 59

xfce4-session and xfce4-panel problems.

I have been having problems with XFCE4, and in particular the panels and session manager. A while ago I started xfce4 up, and it had no panels. I Reinstalled it, tried all that, with no luck. I figured I would just remove it and switch to GNOME, and when I recently switched back, I found that if I remove sessioin manager, I can auto-start panels. I was just wandering if there was anyway to have both.

EDIT: Please, someone respond. At least some one tell me you have no idea, to make me not feel ignored.

Last edited by Koonboi (2008-08-16 06:28:21)

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Koonboi

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From: El Ghetto

Registered: 2008-08-14

Posts: 59

Re: xfce4-session and xfce4-panel problems.

Well I fixed it myself, I think. tested once, and I will update if anything else happens. I added xfce4-panel to the autostarted applications.

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methuselah

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Registered: 2007-10-02

Posts: 570

Re: xfce4-session and xfce4-panel problems.

Did you ever try running this in alt+f2:

xfce4-panel &

That way it doesn't need to be re-started at start up, or be in your start up apps.

Koonboi

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From: El Ghetto

Registered: 2008-08-14

Posts: 59

Re: xfce4-session and xfce4-panel problems.

No. I went into the xfce4 appfinder and there is a menu called Xfce4 Autostarted Applications. and I added the panels to that.

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methuselah

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Registered: 2007-10-02

Posts: 570

Re: xfce4-session and xfce4-panel problems.

No. I went into the xfce4 appfinder and there is a menu called Xfce4 Autostarted Applications. and I added the panels to that.

Well, give it a try. You don't need the xfce4-panel in your auto started programs.

This command stops the panel:

killall xfce4-panel

the command to restart it for a session is:

xfce4-panel

and the command to start the xfce4-panel and to have it continue for all of your next sessions is:

xfce4-panel &

The Xfce4 Autostarted Applications is more for apps like conky or compiz that need to be started at the beginning of a session. The xfce4-panel should not have to be autostarted when using xfce4, all you have to do is run that command with the "&" sign once and it should fix the problem permanently.

Last edited by methuselah (2008-08-17 18:53:55)

Acecero

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Registered: 2008-06-21

Posts: 1,373

Re: xfce4-session and xfce4-panel problems.

I think a simple solution is to remove everything in your .cache and .config/xfce directorys to have everything start normally again.

Koonboi

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From: El Ghetto

Registered: 2008-08-14

Posts: 59

Re: xfce4-session and xfce4-panel problems.

No. I went into the xfce4 appfinder and there is a menu called Xfce4 Autostarted Applications. and I added the panels to that.

Well, give it a try. You don't need the xfce4-panel in your auto started programs.

This command stops the panel:

killall xfce4-panel

the command to restart it for a session is:

xfce4-panel

and the command to start the xfce4-panel and to have it continue for all of your next sessions is:

xfce4-panel &

The Xfce4 Autostarted Applications is more for apps like conky or compiz that need to be started at the beginning of a session. The xfce4-panel should not have to be autostarted when using xfce4, all you have to do is run that command with the "&" sign once and it should fix the problem permanently.

I tried it, and it didn't work. Run thew commands in the terminal?

I think a simple solution is to remove everything in your .cache and .config/xfce directorys to have everything start normally again.

Well how do you do that?

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methuselah

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Registered: 2007-10-02

Posts: 570

Re: xfce4-session and xfce4-panel problems.

That's strange... those commands should work.

Did you run them in the "run application" app from when you press "alt+f2" (or click in the xfce4 menu "run application" at the top)... the box called "run application" should pop up with a place to type the command.

First try closing the panel with "killall xfce4-panel" so that it disappears.

Then press alt+f2 again, and type "xfce4-panel &" so that it re-appears.

It should also work at startup without being on the autostarted list, and if doesn't work, I wouldn't know how else to help you with that. Good luck.

Koonboi

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From: El Ghetto

Registered: 2008-08-14

Posts: 59

Re: xfce4-session and xfce4-panel problems.

That's strange... those commands should work.

Did you run them in the "run application" app from when you press "alt+f2" (or click in the xfce4 menu "run application" at the top)... the box called "run application" should pop up with a place to type the command.

First try closing the panel with "killall xfce4-panel" so that it disappears.

Then press alt+f2 again, and type "xfce4-panel &" so that it re-appears.

It should also work at startup without being on the autostarted list, and if doesn't work, I wouldn't know how else to help you with that. Good luck.

It isn't working. I can have it autostart automatically, but only if I disable session manager. And if it is in the autostarted applications, I can have both.

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peart

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From: Kanuckistan

Registered: 2003-07-28

Posts: 510

Re: xfce4-session and xfce4-panel problems.

Are you starting dbus/hal from your DAEMONS array?  If that's not the problem, then I'd log in from the console, type 'startxfce4', log out of it, then check for errors on the console.  If you use Slim, just read /var/log/slim.log instead.

Good luck.

PS: Perhaps you have a panel plugin that's crashing?  Try disabling them.

Koonboi

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From: El Ghetto

Registered: 2008-08-14

Posts: 59

Re: xfce4-session and xfce4-panel problems.

Are you starting dbus/hal from your DAEMONS array?  If that's not the problem, then I'd log in from the console, type 'startxfce4', log out of it, then check for errors on the console.  If you use Slim, just read /var/log/slim.log instead.

Good luck.

PS: Perhaps you have a panel plugin that's crashing?  Try disabling them.

I haven't added anything to the panel, it is straight out of the box. And I do have dbus, and hal on Daemons, so I will try that.

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Iketani

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From: United Kingdom

Registered: 2008-08-18

Posts: 10

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Re: xfce4-session and xfce4-panel problems.

I have had this problem few times, both times it appeared after i have restarted hal when working in xfce, i suppose it messed up some configurations in .config/ the way i resolved this problem:
First i killed X session by pressing alt+ctrl+backspace, then i deleted the .config folder in my home directory, the easiest way is to use good old mc:

# pacman -S mc

then navigate to your /home/username and find the directory called .config/, i deleted it and then started X again (aether by start x or just reboot). Then my xfce4 was as good as new, however my all configurations (fonts, themes, wallpaper, everything) was gone (well that happens when you remove configuration files i suppose ). Anyway affter that i reconfigured everything again and backed up the .config, incase this happens again I'll just restore my .config files from backup. thats it.
Hope this my experience will help you.

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Koonboi

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From: El Ghetto

Registered: 2008-08-14

Posts: 59

Re: xfce4-session and xfce4-panel problems.

I have had this problem few times, both times it appeared after i have restarted hal when working in xfce, i suppose it messed up some configurations in .config/ the way i resolved this problem:
First i killed X session by pressing alt+ctrl+backspace, then i deleted the .config folder in my home directory, the easiest way is to use good old mc:

# pacman -S mc

then navigate to your /home/username and find the directory called .config/, i deleted it and then started X again (aether by start x or just reboot). Then my xfce4 was as good as new, however my all configurations (fonts, themes, wallpaper, everything) was gone (well that happens when you remove configuration files i suppose ). Anyway affter that i reconfigured everything again and backed up the .config, incase this happens again I'll just restore my .config files from backup. thats it.
Hope this my experience will help you.

This really does help, but I don't think I will use it. I don't want to lose all that stuff. Plus I have a makeshift solution, that doesn't envolve deleting all my configurations.

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