Kde upgrade prevents download into cachedir

lilsirecho · 2008-08-18 15:37:02

Provided a cachedir for pacman downloads which places all upgrades into a raid0 cachedir. These downloads are not installed into the system but remain available for optional install at a later time. This permits utilizing a package group for use in the system at the users discretion....in the system presently being discussed herein,Faunos, the result is that the user is able to install via r/o raid0 packages into ram for execution in a given session. This permits user to perform activities for that session in ram and does not install permanently.

The system used with Faunos is upgraded with the following bookmarked pacman command....

.....pacman --cachedir /mnt/md/upgrade -Syuw.........

With the latest upgrade to Kde4 initiated by the above command, none of the upgrades are initiated...ndiswrapper dependencies are missing.

This is the first time that an upgrade has resulted in a failed result in Faunos.

To make things next to impossible, the Faunos forums have been terminated due to invasion by porn-based URL's and postings. Thusly, cannot obtain forum responses to these problems nor help others with difficulties.

The cachedir described is also available in archlinux on another machine, the raid0 components being moved into that computer.. However, when installing the kde4 upgrade directly into archlinux with -Syu, the archlinux system is now unusable.

Has the pacman system been compromised by the same porn-based groups(many URL's are involved)?

shining · 2008-08-18 19:23:04

Is there an obscurity contest I am not aware about?

lilsirecho · 2008-08-18 19:28:24

Sorry that you don't understand.................................

carlocci · 2008-08-18 21:28:59

I don't quite understand either: how did you manage to be understood in your other 2661 posts?
Here is my interpretation after reading the post a couple of times:

I keep the packages I download in a directory different from /var/cache/pacman/pkg which resides in a raid0 partition.
I don't install the packages I download, rather I keep them in the read only partition on a raid0 and install them in a partition I create into ram at every boot, so that each user can have his personal packages available, or choose different installed packages profiles without having to install stuff permanently.
I forgot to say I use FaunOS, not Arch.
I populate my cache dir with this command:
pacman --cachedir /mnt/md/upgrade -Syuw
But with the latest huge update from kde3 to kde4, I had some problems: the system didn't seem to upgrade, for example some dependencies for ndiswrapper are missing.
This is the first time an upgrade failed... even more, FaunOS forums have been closed for the time being due to porn spam, so I can't ask for help there, nor help others in return (I highly doubt that)
I have Arch installed on another computer and I moved the raid0 partition with all the cached packages to that system, unfortunately installing those packages broke the OS.
Has pacman been compromised by the same porn spammers which destroyed the FaunOS forums? I think that because many URLs are involved.

I can answer your last question: I don't really think so.

I wonder, what is your mother language?

lilsirecho · 2008-08-18 22:03:53

Carlocci:

The understanding of my post was almost perfect even though you do not like my english.

Basically, the purpose of my cache dir is to utilize Compact Flash devices for r/o storage in Raid0. In fact,two compact flash devices in that mode provide 80MB/sec read speed. Writes made thru the pacman command specified are always to new cells, no overwrites occur.

There is an additional Compact Flash device which loads the Faunos system and it is r/o and reads at 42MB/sec.

There is only one user in my system, root.

The download of Kde4 via pacman -Syu wiped out my system for any practical use. I have utilized pacman-Syu daily for a year or more withonly minor problems. It is now unusable in both archlinux HDD and Faunos "Live".

I am not stupid as you seem to suggest, I have five years with archlinux. This download acts much like a virus or worm which hits each user in a different manner.

I have helped many users of Faunos in the past year or more with problems encountered in applying flash drive technology to the "Live" faunos system.

On the fourteenth of this month I reached my 83rd year.

Perhaps I am getting senile?

I have reported a pertinent problem affecting archlinux and its derivative Faunos.

I invite you to search Google for faunos.com and select the non existent forum which was recently shut down because of intense porn(using my wiki for a diskless faunos system as a platform).

You may derive some insight if you search archlinux for my diskless system wherein it is also delineated.

Please be kind to dumb animals like lilsirecho.

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lilsirecho · 2008-08-18 22:23:47

Carlocci;

The title of my wiki in Faunos wiki was: Create a diskless faunos system.......(the wiki has been shut down).

The porn group(s) have usurped the title I gave my wiki.

If you insert the title in google...Create a diskless Faunos system..... you will see that it has Faunos references and they are shutdown.

Nasty things are happening!!!!

lilsirecho · 2008-08-18 22:55:43

Carlocci:

Google has a spam report item which can be used to report the improper use of google.com

I reported the porn incidents happening daily for two weeks and received no response nor corrective action. I did this because the wiki item having my title was removed at my request, however, google continued to provide the porn use of the title search as a Faunos related item with Faunos accessible in the process!!!!

Finally, an e-mail to the admin of Faunos received attention during a multiple porn takeover of four of the forums sections and the Forums and wiki were then closed.

I feel something has happened to pacman functionally due to outside sources. I am not able to "force" any install with the latest Kde4 packages, a commonplace activity previous to this upgrade.

It is a nasty world!!!!

carlocci · 2008-08-19 12:24:12

Thank you for your deeper explanation.

The download of Kde4 via pacman -Syu wiped out my system for any practical use. I have utilized pacman-Syu daily for a year or more withonly minor problems. It is now unusable in both archlinux HDD and Faunos "Live".

This should be clarified:
you have some base packages you have installed all the time (I will call it the base system) and then the packages you install into ram (I will call it the extended system).
You upgraded the base system and now the system is unusable.
What do you mean by unusable? Does the system boot?
How often do you upgrade your system?
Does FaunOS use the same repositories as Arch?
Have you tried to downgrade some (kernel/videodrivers) packages?

Happy birthday

lilsirecho · 2008-08-19 14:11:28

I upgrade daily.

In archlinux HDD, I utilized Pacman -Syu with the kde4 packages included.

The system boots but Desktop is striated and unresponsive...black and white only...no START ...cannot maneuver items on the desktop....reset to shutdown.

Do not have a clue as to what should be displayed...is it in color? There is no color in my display.

Faunos has 600 archlinux packages and uses pacman for package management utilizing pactrac as a gui. When using pacman the installs are made into ram and are operable during a given session. When rebooting, the downloaded package(s) can be permanently placed in an overlay for reuse during subsequent session with the option provided to ( save session) during reboot.

My system is diskless and pacman downloads are placed in a raid0 cache dir. For the first time in many,many downloads into cache, the download is rejected with ndiswrapper dependency problems. I cannot "force" the download which is not installed since the "w" option is utilized.

I have new kernel packages in the cache dir but do not use any new kernels in Faunos(however, it is possible to do so). I do not see the "need" for new kernels.

If a new kernel is necessary for the latest downloads in Kde4, such warning is missing.

Thus, the Faunos system operates but rejects the kde4 upgrade into cachedir -Syuw....the archlinux system with HDD boots with the kde4 upgrade -Syu but is unusable.

I attend a funeral this day..........................

I have not attempted downloads of video drivers since my system has properly been displaying my LCD data for many months.

carlocci · 2008-08-20 13:56:00

This might be a video driver related issue.
Do you have compositing enabled in your xorg.conf?
Have you tried to downgrade your video drivers/kernel?
I am experiencing some problems with the current ATI proprietary driver at the moment myself, so this may be related.
I don't really think this is a kde4 problem (if you don't use compositing)

lilsirecho · 2008-08-20 15:58:25

I have an ATI 8500LE display card and do not use acceleration....my LCD is VGA and has performed well up to this Kde4 upgrade. It may be that I am using vesa in that interface.

The video driver in the Faunos computer is i810 and has a VGA d sub connection for the LCD and it displays correctly. However, no comparison with the archlinux computer performance is possible for the Kde4 elements because I have not been able to download them as I described.

I do not recall that the list of items downloaded into the archlinux ATI system included any display changes altho there could be display requirements for kde4 included as items therein.

The display is indeed a mess for the ATI archlinux computer. This is the first time it has happened in years.

Why kde4?

Arch Linux

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