New nVidia Drivers 177.67 released

attila · 2008-08-21 15:47:55

@venky80 I see here only that newer cards have problems with kde4 which is released at 29th July. This problem is for me not enough to say that nvidia is bad. So sorry if my words makes you angry because it seems that this is not your only problem with nvidia.

The expectation is to get what you paid for I am not a open source zealot, for all I care Nvidia can keep their source closed, but I am unwilling to wait for months to get the FULL functionality from my card when it is worth half its price. What is so crazy about asking for accountability from a corporations...is it so hard to fathom?

This is completly right. We only have different views, that is all. My only question is: Have you tried this beta driver or not? And if yes, did it solves your problems or not? This all is a little bit too less definitely for me, sorry again.

venky80 · 2008-08-21 16:30:59

attila wrote:

@venky80 I see here only that newer cards have problems with kde4 which is released at 29th July. This problem is for me not enough to say that nvidia is bad. So sorry if my words makes you angry because it seems that this is not your only problem with nvidia.
The expectation is to get what you paid for I am not a open source zealot, for all I care Nvidia can keep their source closed, but I am unwilling to wait for months to get the FULL functionality from my card when it is worth half its price. What is so crazy about asking for accountability from a corporations...is it so hard to fathom?
This is completly right. We only have different views, that is all. My only question is: Have you tried this beta driver or not? And if yes, did it solves your problems or not? This all is a little bit too less definitely for me, sorry again.

well I am happy for the fact that some part of the issues are fixed, but I was just speaking on a broader perspective of corporation not being held accountable, i mean they spend millions on Ads but cant invest in one for developer.

I think all iam asking is for accountability, and i disagree with anyone who says give them time they are working they have always supported nvidia yada yada..they are not doing charity they see an opportunity here and i didnt get they card for charity either...it is pure business so it will be treated as one.

Xyne · 2008-08-21 17:00:48

tobiwae wrote:

Okay, i installed the driver via ABS now (nvidia and nvidia-utils). My package has the version number "177.67-1", so that means as soon as an nvidia package with version number "177.67-2" or greater is in the official repo my package will be updated, right?

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that depends on how you installed them. If you installed the packages with "pacman -U nvidia nvidia-utils", I don't think they will be updated automatically. You need to install them with "-S" instead of "-U", which means that you have to stick them in a custom local repository.

Here's the wiki page on custom local repos.

attila · 2008-08-21 17:01:42

venky80 wrote:

well I am happy for the fact that some part of the issues are fixed, but I was just speaking on a broader perspective of corporation not being held accountable, i mean they spend millions on Ads but cant invest in one for developer.

In a world where linux on the desktop will be more important as now they and other companies will invest more money but at the moment not. Perhaps nvidia don't know how much linux user they have because they count only the downloads and a lot of distributions offers his own packages which will be count only once, perhaps they knows it and than the have right to do it in this way. I don't know it but i know that you have to earn money from a certain time on after investing.

venky80 wrote:

I think all iam asking is for accountability, and i disagree with anyone who says give them time they are working they have always supported nvidia yada yada..they are not doing charity they see an opportunity here and i didnt get they card for charity either...it is pure business so it will be treated as one.

Sorry, there seems that i don't say it exactly enough: I don't want to give them time. I can only understand why they don't have perfect drivers for kde4 at the moment. I enjoy day for day in my private time to use linux and especially kde but i must admit that i won't decide it in another way if i would have to do it at work. I'm not realy sure that nvidia sell so much cards that they can invest millions. That is all and only my private view.

pheon · 2008-08-21 19:49:13

Installed it with ABS (after fixing the download-url and the install-step for the supported-cards.txt in the aur-tarball ) full of hope to unleash the enormous power of the most powerfull GPU known to mankind - my GeForce 6.

Mixed feelings so far:

- for some reasons the notify-area appers to be emtpy on every kde-start (I have to remove and readd this widget to get it working correctly). Nothing serious, tough annoying.

- setting InitialPixmapPlacement to 2 (as recommended in the nv-forums) causes strange behaviour of Firefox. Scrolling trough walls of text and switchting tabs makes the text fade to white. Setting InitialPixmapPlacement to 3 fixes this somehow.
screenshot

- resizing of windows is now faster, but still far from satisfying

- overall performance increased

Probably it just needs some more fiddling with all the settings...

br

colbert · 2008-08-21 20:02:25

Anyone tried this on an 8800GT and care to share impressions?

attila · 2008-08-21 20:09:56

pheon wrote:

setting InitialPixmapPlacement to 2 (as recommended in the nv-forums) causes strange behaviour of Firefox. Scrolling trough walls of text and switchting tabs makes the text fade to white. Setting InitialPixmapPlacement to 3 fixes this somehow.

Have you ever tried it together with "-a GlyphCache=1" as suggested in the blog entry from vizzzion.org?

pheon wrote:

Probably it just needs some more fiddling with all the settings...

Oh yes, i hope nvidia will choose the default settings instead we have to look in the forums and to run nvidia-serttings. My personal dream is this for the device section: Option "OptimizeFor" "kde4"

pheon · 2008-08-21 20:38:25

attila wrote:

Have you ever tried it together with "-a GlyphCache=1" as suggested in the blog entry from vizzzion.org?

As far I can remember, yes. And to be honest, for me there is no noteable difference in performance between InitialPixmapPlacement=3 and InitialPixmapPlacement=2. So actually I am glad to see any improvment.

venky80 · 2008-08-21 23:26:22

does anyone know where i have to paste this line? i have xinitrc kderc iam confused what is the thing i have to paste ?
nvidia-settings -a InitialPixmapPlacement=2 -a GlyphCache=1

kensai · 2008-08-22 00:12:28

177.68 is out. Though you might want to know, since it fixes some more bugs, and they say it improves KDE4 performance.

attila · 2008-08-22 05:10:48

venky80 wrote:

does anyone know where i have to paste this line? i have xinitrc kderc iam confused what is the thing i have to paste ?

On my kde4 test partition i use startx. So i have a shell script "set-nvidia.sh" with this this command inside and a "exec ~/bin/set-nvidia.sh &" behind the line with startkde. I hope this is the right way.

But how to use it with kdm is a good question where i don't know the answer, sorry.

venky80 · 2008-08-22 09:18:53

attila wrote:

venky80 wrote:
does anyone know where i have to paste this line? i have xinitrc kderc iam confused what is the thing i have to paste ?
On my kde4 test partition i use startx. So i have a shell script "set-nvidia.sh" with this this command inside and a "exec ~/bin/set-nvidia.sh &" behind the line with startkde. I hope this is the right way.
But how to use it with kdm is a good question where i don't know the answer, sorry.

Ya i use KDM:( but thanks might be useful for someone else

methuselah · 2008-08-28 18:38:07

I've been using the NVIDIA 177.13 beta driver for both my "zenmm 2.6.27-rc1" and my "Arch 2.6.26.2-1" kernels, and it fixed my tty screen problem that the 173.14 driver had. (black tty screens not showing the login prompt/text or any printed text from typing or logging in and running a command)

I've read in the forums that a lot of other people have had the same tty problem with nvidia drivers and the text not showing on the virtual consoles.

Then I compiled the 177.68 from AUR, and also tried the 177.67 driver from the NVIDIA site (sh NVIDIA.....run), and both of those drivers had the same blank tty screen problem that the 177.13 had fixed... ( from 173.14)... both drivers installed correctly, and worked well with compiz-fusion and gnome, just not with the tty virtual console screens.

So... after re-installing the 177.13 driver, my tty screens work perfectly again... does anyone know why it would only work for the 177.13 driver, and not the newer 177.68 driver?

I used this 177.13 driver: http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?d … hans=&SeB=

... I built the package from AUR with the patches, and since I had problems installing the package with the zenmm kernel, I just ran the installer (./nvidia-installer) from this folder: /nvidia-beta-zenmm/src/NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-177.13-pkg2

When I install with the ./nvidia-installer method, it works perfectly for both the zenmm and the stock Arch kernels.

kensai · 2008-08-28 18:48:59

177.70 is out, it has been working great for me. It fixes some bugs that affected my GPU.

venky80 · 2008-08-28 19:04:53

dude how do you get to know abt these releases so fast..lol

kensai · 2008-08-28 20:13:06

venky80 wrote:

dude how do you get to know abt these releases so fast..lol

I'm the newsletter author, I have a lot of sources.

colbert · 2008-08-28 22:09:50

kensai wrote:

177.70 is out, it has been working great for me. It fixes some bugs that affected my GPU.

Which card do you have? I'm interested in trying the newer drivers (currently on last stable release in pacman-- 173.14.12), but unsure whether to give a go now or wait until is in pacman. Thx

kensai · 2008-08-28 22:16:37

colbert wrote:

kensai wrote:
177.70 is out, it has been working great for me. It fixes some bugs that affected my GPU.
Which card do you have? I'm interested in trying the newer drivers (currently on last stable release in pacman-- 173.14.12), but unsure whether to give a go now or wait until is in pacman. Thx

geforce 6600

Just bump the version from ABS and compile, remember to update nvidia-utils as well.

colbert · 2008-08-28 22:33:30

What do mean bump version from ABS? I used ABS once before, so don't want to mess anything up. I just did ABS sync and found /var/abs/extra/nvidia, copied the dir to my ~/installs/. In the ~/installs/nvidia I have:

~/installs/nvidia # ls
NVIDIA_kernel-169.12-2286310.diff  PKGBUILD  nvidia.install

This is older than current driver I am using though! Confused

kensai · 2008-08-28 23:42:47

ypu can safely remove the NVIDIA_kernel-169.12-2286310.diff, and then edit the PKGBUILD, in the version section change it to 177.70 and then makepkg -c and all is done, hopefully. Those are my rough instructions, but the wiki is better.

colbert · 2008-08-29 00:39:30

Should I first uninstall nvidia I currently have installed?? Thx kensai

Misfit138 · 2008-08-29 01:08:32

colbert wrote:

Should I first uninstall nvidia I currently have installed?? Thx kensai

pacman -U is a remove-then-upgrade function, so no, you shouldn't need to.
man pacman

colbert · 2008-08-29 18:52:06

Okay I had to change the download URL in the PKGBUILD to ftp:// instead since the http one kept giving me error of file not found even when I changed a few things, and the file downloaded but I got a md5sum error How I can fix this Thx

kensai · 2008-08-30 00:08:42

colbert wrote:

Okay I had to change the download URL in the PKGBUILD to ftp:// instead since the http one kept giving me error of file not found even when I changed a few things, and the file downloaded but I got a md5sum error How I can fix this Thx

you could upgrade the md5sum in the PKGBUILD with the output of "makepkg -g", but in this case just comment out the md5sum, I do that in laziness, just put a # in from of the lines that have the md5sum.

colbert · 2008-08-30 00:53:48

Okay I commented out the md5sum lines but I got an error trying to start X saying this:

Aug 29 20:45:26 dabox NVRM: API mismatch: the client has the version 173.14.12, but
Aug 29 20:45:26 dabox NVRM: this kernel module has the version 177.70.  Please
Aug 29 20:45:26 dabox NVRM: make sure that this kernel module and all NVIDIA driver
Aug 29 20:45:26 dabox NVRM: components have the same version.

I tried to remove nvidia-utils and install that from ABS too, changed the PKGBUILD to reflect 177.70 and commented out md5sums, only to realize it won't build without the 177.70 driver*oops*. Back on 173.14 for the moment.

Sorry if I'm making this more complicated than it should be but I haven't done this method before, appreciate the help a lot thx

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