Sun Java 3D looking glass now available - Package ?

Kin · 2004-06-29 20:51:35

Hi,

justread the following:

https://lg3d-core.dev.java.net/lg3ddevelopersguide.html

Project Looking Glass Open Source
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Sun Microsystems is contributing Project Looking Glass, based on Java(tm) technology, to the open source community. Project Looking Glass is an exploration project to bring innovative 3D features to the desktop environment. The desktop interface will offer an intuitive, new 3D environment to interact with desktop applications featuring window transparency, rotation, zoom, multiple desktop workspaces and miniaturization.Project Looking Glass offers a platform to realize far richer and more entertaining user experience for existing and new applications in 2D or 3D. The technology enables developers to build highly visual 3D desktops and applications that will run on Linux systems such as Sun's Java Desktop System. The Solaris(tm) environment will be supported in near future.

What does this mean to you?
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If you're a software developer, please go to http://enews.sun.com/CTServlet?id=63058 … 8531213971 and download this early version of the code and join the community in developing the 3D desktop.

Interested in using the Project Looking Glass? The project is in very early stages and a commercial version is not available yet. Please go to http://enews.sun.com/CTServlet?id=63058 … 8531213990 to keep up to date on our progress.

Why Open Source?
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Project Looking Glass is in its infancy, and we'd like to explore lots of ideas and possibilities. We're releasing the Project Looking Glass code to the whole community to explore every aspect of the technology rather than restricting access to a privileged few. We believe this open development is an excellent model to pursue this exciting and vast opportunity. So, your involvement is eagerly anticipated. We believe new dimension of developer innovation by making Sun's cutting edge technology available at Sun's 3D Desktop Technology Open Source Project on java.net.

We have been working for several months on cleaning the software up, providing basic features and functionality key to 3D window management. A key focus was looking at the existing 2D desktop applications, ensuring minimal compatibility and performance problems. The next step is to look what else we can do to foster real world 3D interactivity. We decided to open source this at a very early stage to ensure that we got good feedback from the community.

What's in the Open Source Project?
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The following features are now available in the Project Looking Glass open source release:

3D Window Manager Platform - Java 3D based highly scalable 3D platform with client-server model support.

3D Window Manager and Application Development API - Java API to develop new 3D desktop applications and 3D desktop Window Manager features.

Native Application Integration Module - Allows developers to run conventional X11 applications in the 3D environment.

Sample 3D Window Manager - provides a simple sample implementation for testing and demonstration purposes

3D Environment Lite - Enables developers to run a simplified 3D environment as an application on a Java 3D enabled platform including Linux and Solaris environments. This serves as a development tool to test implementations.

This is all available at: http://enews.sun.com/CTServlet?id=63058 … 8531213971

What's the licensing model?
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There are three license choices for developers interested in creating applications using Project Looking Glass.

For developers who are interested in reviewing, revising, and redistributing the source code as part of their own application, Project Looking Glass has been submitted as an Open Source project on java.net under the GNU Public License, or GPL.

For developers who are interested in developing an application on top of the existing Project Looking Glass platform without reviewing and/or altering the code base, there is a binary version of the current state of the project available for download under a traditional Binary Code License. This is also available on java.net.

Finally, for developers or organizations interested in other uses or revising the source code but wish to keep their implementation and related application proprietary, please contact Sun at lg3d_license@dev.java.net.

Project Looking Glass Community Meeting
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Wednesday June 30, 2004
4:30pm to 6:00pm
The Argent Hotel, City Room
San Francisco, California, USA
http://www.argenthotel.com/location.htm

4:00-4:30 Registration
4:30-4:45 Welcome, Introductions, and 3D Desktop Project Demo
4:45-5:30 Technology Overview, Possible Sub Projects, How to Get Started
5:30-6:00 Q&A and Networking

Please join the conversation with the Project Looking Glass developers from Sun Microsystems. This meeting will be technically focused introducing developers to the project and letting them know how to get involved.

You can meet the team from "Project Looking Glass" and other developers while enjoying food and refreshments. There is open admission. You do not need a JavaOne Conference Pass to attend.

There will be no webcast available, but we will post the information available at the meeting on the website. We'll also have several presentations and Project Looking Glass at JavaOne, and we'll post as many as we can on the web.

You can see Hideya Kawahara on stage with Jonathan Schwartz and Scott McNealy of Sun Microsystems demonstrating the Project Looking Glass technology and announcing the open source project at http://enews.sun.com/CTServlet?id=63058 … 8531214001 (select View Webcast).

If you have any questions, please send them to: project-looking-glass@sun.com

Sun's Project Looking Glass Team

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Dusty · 2004-06-30 15:30:44

I'm interested in this project, and would build a package if I had time, but look at these hellish dependencies:

Download the components
Note: The installation instructions assume that you download all of the components into /tmp.

1. Java 2 SDK, Standard Edition 1.5.0 Beta 2 or later
http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/download.jsp

Note: The installation instructions below assume you download the RPM version of the JDK.

2. Java 3D SDK 1.3.2-build3
https://j3d-core.dev.java.net/servlets/ … cumentList

Note: Navigate to the j3d-core/Experimental_Builds/1.3.2-build3 sub-folder and download java3d-1_3_2-build3-linux-i586.tar.gz

3. Java Advanced Imaging API (JAI) 1.1.2 JDK
http://java.sun.com/products/java-media … 1_1_2.html

Note: Select the JDK(TM) Install: Bundle for installation in a JDK Download. After reading and agreeing to the Software License Agreement, choose the Linux JDK Install item (jai-1_1_2-lib-linux-i586-jdk.bin).

I don't have time for this unless my boss will let me experiment with it during work hours; j2SDK 1.5 alone takes 7 hours to download... *sigh*

If I decide to build it, I'm going to ask for a TUR to put all these dependencies in. For now, I'll leave it open hoping somebody else can build it before me.

Dusty

Dusty · 2004-06-30 20:57:10

Dusty wrote:

I don't have time for this unless my boss will let me experiment with it during work hours; j2SDK 1.5 alone takes 7 hours to download... *sigh*

I got the go-ahead; I'll try to get each of the dependencies working. anybody want to sponsor me for a TUR? Xentac? dp? my friends...

Dusty

Dusty · 2004-07-01 05:28:19

My first problem so far is that I can't find a download source for j2re/sdk 1.5.0 beta2 that will load from a PKGBUILD. planetmirror.com has beta 1, but not 2. For now I'll downlad from sun and build a package around the local dl... maybe planetmirror will update...

Dusty

bleak · 2004-07-01 18:13:41

I've just installed this on a temporary directory just for testing.

Althought it looks nice, it is still just a small sample and very buggy (i couldn't even start the fullscreen session).

Dusty · 2004-07-01 18:40:33

Is it not worth building a package? Did you really need to get the Java 1.5 beta 2 installed?

Dusty

bleak · 2004-07-01 20:51:43

I installed Java 1.5 beta 2 and didn't test with other version but it's probably needed.

At this point i don't think it's worth to build a package because it will make you install a beta version of Java and the desktop is not really usable.

But i think anyone interested should build this just to get the feel of it. You can install all the packages needed locally very easily. Then all you have to do is export the JAVA_HOME and PATH variables to reflect the new java location.

Follow the instructions here:
https://lg3d-core.dev.java.net/lg3dgettingstarted.html

I also had to change the script files in the "bin" directory of the lg3d package to reflect #!/usr/bin/tcsh instead of #!/bin/csh

sweiss · 2004-07-02 10:09:54

Mind sharing your system specs? The project page states you need a 2ghz machine or higher, will my loyal 450mhz do?

bleak · 2004-07-02 12:52:39

I have exactly the minimal requirements: amd 2000 with a geforce 2mx.

It works nice but i think you really need these requirements. I couldn't start the fullscreen version but i guess it will be a lot slower than the windowed mode.

I don't think your 450mhz will do but you can always try

DanEE · 2004-07-02 14:03:04

I got it working with a 1.5 Ghz Processor and a ATI Radeon 9700.
But it worked only in window-mode and only with Java 1.5 Beta 2 (it didn't work with Java 1.4 for me)

Although it looks nice, it's very buggy and only a toy for the moment IMO.
So I don't know if it really deserves a package now...

Dusty · 2004-07-05 17:41:44

For those that want to play with it, I've developed PKGBUILDS and an installation process here:
http://www.archlinux.org/~dusty/lookingglass.html

I'm not going to prepare binary packages for 1.5 JRE or SDK, or the Advanced Imaging API, as I don't want to get into legal trouble AND/OR I cannot find direct download links. I would, however, like a TU to provide a package for Java3D, as it is much better than the blackdown Java3D I've been using.

Dusty

mattux · 2004-07-05 17:57:16

Hi i found something like suns..loking glasses....

METISSE
http://insitu.lri.fr/~chapuis/metisse/index.html
..
PKGBUILD:

pkgname=metisse
pkgver=0.3.1
pkgrel=1
pkgdesc="A real 3D-Desktop"
url=""
license="GPL"
depends=('xfree86' 'nucleo')
source=(http://insitu.lri.fr/~chapuis/software/metisse/metisse-0.3.1.tar.bz2)

build() {
cd $startdir/src/$pkgname-$pkgver
./configure --prefix=/usr
make || return 1
make prefix=$startdir/pkg/usr install
}

PKGBUILD of nucleo

pkgname=nucleo
pkgver=0.1
pkgrel=1
pkgdesc="Nucleo library (needed by metisse)"
url=""
license="GPL"
depends=('xfree86')
source=(http://insitu.lri.fr/~chapuis/software/metisse/nucleo-0.1-20040705.tar.bz2)

build() {
cd $startdir/src/$pkgname-$pkgver
./configure --prefix=/usr
make || return 1
make prefix=$startdir/pkg/usr install
}
btw. you need gcc 3.4 not 3.4.1
and if metisse don´t want to compile ..like
"
ametista.cxx: In function `int main(int, char**)':
ametista.cxx:88: error: array bound forbidden after parenthesized type-id
ametista.cxx:88: note: try removing the parentheses around the type-id
make: *** [ametista.o] Error 1"
you should patch the file src/metisse-0.3.1/FvwmAmetista/main/ametista.cxx:88
before: char **user_arg char **user_argv = new (char *) [user_argc] ;
after : char **user_argv = new char * [user_argc] ;

sorry but i dont know howto create patch files ...feel free to make a patch

hoppe you find this software as funny as i do
mattux

mattux · 2004-07-05 18:01:35

ups..i forget
to start you should habe a running X server with nvidia/ati driver installed
(without running a window manager)
/usr/X11R6/bin/X
then you should start the metisse X manager
/usr/bin/Xwnc -ac -geometry 1024x768 :1
and then the metisse window manager
/usr/bin/metisse-start-fvw
have fun

mattux

Net@Worm · 2004-07-10 22:05:09

I have problem with installing jai. Patch cant applying to jai-1_1_2-lib-linux-i586-jdk.bin. There is error:

patching file jai-1_1_2-lib-linux-i586-jdk.bin
patch: **** malformed patch at line 4: outname=install.sfx.$$

jsutnoni · 2004-07-11 01:08:56

yep getting the same error as Net@Worm

Dusty · 2004-07-11 20:25:49

The error you are getting is different from the one I expected when I first went to edit the PKGBUILD. :-D

First, replace:
patch -p0 jai-1_1_2-lib-linux-i586-jdk.bin <jdkdir.patch
with:
patch -p0 jai-1_1_2-lib-linux-i586-jdk.bin <jai.patch

In the PKGBUILD file. i'm assuming you already did this or you'd be getting a different error, I think.

I'm not getting the error you are getting, and I have no idea why. I'm none too familiar with diffs or patching though. Perhaps it's a copy-paste or newline error? Did you get an md5 checksum mismatch on the copy/pasted file?

This is the exact jai.patch that I used, maybe try it?:
http://www.archlinux.org/~dusty/jai.patch

Dusty

Net@Worm · 2004-07-12 14:18:27

i'm assuming you already did this or you'd be getting a different error, I think.

It's so

Did you get an md5 checksum mismatch on the copy/pasted file?

Yes, it right so. I have deleted all md5 sums and it works for all, except jai.

Did you get an md5 checksum mismatch on the copy/pasted file?

I try it now.

Net@Worm · 2004-07-12 14:32:00

It works, thnx!

punkrockguy318 · 2004-11-07 04:07:00

dusty: u want me to throw java3d in my tur?

Michel · 2004-11-07 12:37:52

It seems you are interested in 3d-desktops ...

Here is another one:

http://www.opencroquet.org/

nice 3d-desktop-switching:

http://desk3d.sourceforge.net/index.php

have fun,

Michel

dp · 2004-11-07 13:01:25

Michel wrote:

It seems you are interested in 3d-desktops ...
Here is another one:
http://www.opencroquet.org/
nice 3d-desktop-switching:
http://desk3d.sourceforge.net/index.php
have fun,
Michel

3ddesktop is in extra

opencroquet sounds very interesting!

phunni · 2005-07-20 18:40:47

I only spotted this thread after I'd already followed the isntructions on the looking glass website.

Everything is installed - except that the scripts seem to require csh, which I don't have and I can't find.

Can anyone help me get it?

Snowman · 2005-07-20 19:05:18

You can try with tcsh. I think they are compatible. Install tcsh and create a link (csh -> tcsh).

phunni · 2005-07-20 22:02:43

Thanks for that - I've had further problems getting the desktop to start, for which I've started a new thread: http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?p=102441#102441

Gullible Jones · 2005-07-20 23:34:03

Opencroquet looks a bit more suited to immersive virtual reality than standard desktop use. It also will take a hell of a lot of computing power... Methinks it needs a few years. Maybe when Geforce 6800s become renowned for being cheap and crappy, it will be ready... :shock:

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