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coarseSand takes the biscuit: spent some time on tweaking and mpd should fit all your needs!
sorry for my bad english
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Hey there.
Let me start out with a small correction:
* Supports tracks longer than 60 minutes / 1 hour
Is there a modern media player that doesn't do this?
I meant that in the context of the track title display - audacious has a large bug where it goes 99:59... 01:40...?!?! Then, after 10 mins, 01:41, etc.
* mpd - expects all your files to be in one folder; mine are everywhere, evn thrown across sshfs mounts to other systems.
Apparently you have never heard of symbolic links. OH SNAP! Just create a single directory to collect all the links in. Also, mpd does not expect everything to be in one folder; it expects everything to be available from one parent folder, allowing you to organize beneath that parent.
I figured that.
The problem you're having isn't that you're looking for a music player, you're looking for a wm/media player/file manager, and that just doesn't exist on Linux, largely because we are sane (for the sake of argument, ignore Songbird right now, I don't think any of us are crazy enough to use it anyways).
I agree with you... I'm sane. Plus, Songbird is... plain weird, in my opinion.
Like looking for a zebroctonoceros, even though a zebra exists, an octopus exists, and a rhinoceros exists, they do not exist in the same creature.
LOL... but if that could be created, we could have a creature with the ability to grab many things with force and blend into the background while doing so.
For interfacing with X (keybindings and the disappearing music player), you're better off going through a configurable wm like Openbox.
...which I use already, and have actually hacked and recompiled to suit myself better.
For the actual music playing, well, I don't see any problems with mpd besides your music files being messy, and you can't expect music playing software to solve a personal organization problem. If your file system is messy, then use a file manager to fix it, not your mp3 player.
No, my file system is not messy; the correct word is cramped. For a lot of my life I've used people's silicon rejects - I'm using such a system a company gave to me right now, which I'm grateful for - and these machines have mostly had very small hard disks in them. However, I collect data like any other person, so the disks fill up, and pretty quickly. So it's very hard to move data between them.
I put a lot of effort into keeping my music files properly tagged and accessible from a single top level directory called music, which then splits off into mp3/ogg files, flac files, podcasts, etc...
I plan to do such a thing in the future, when I obtain some more diskspace. Tagging... is not my thing though. I'm still figuring out a good way to sort stuff out that I agree with - organization and structure are among the hardest things for me to grasp as concepts.
Another idea for you, if you have multiple machines. Collect all your music onto a single machine, and then set up that system to serve exclusively as an mpd jukebox you can listen to from your other computers over the network. Give it a try.
Diskspace issues... again. (if you're annoyed by now, yea, I get annoyed after I have to turn good ideas down too.)
But I'm slowly warming to mpd. It *will* take a while - in fact, I may not try it for a few months (or years) until I get my new computer, when I can sort my files and stuff out.
-dav7
Last edited by dav7 (2008-09-12 13:45:36)
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dav7 as far as disk space is concerned, couldn't you organize your partitions/drives with LVM or EVMS into one massive logical partition then select that as the root directory for whatever media player you use?
Set up may be a pain, but it'd definitely solve your "cramped space" issues and allow you to better organize your files.
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* mpd - expects all your files to be in one folder; mine are everywhere, evn thrown across sshfs mounts to other systems.
Apparently you have never heard of symbolic links. OH SNAP! Just create a single directory to collect all the links in. Also, mpd does not expect everything to be in one folder; it expects everything to be available from one parent folder, allowing you to organize beneath that parent.
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that's what I do, it works fine. I think overall mpd would be best for the OP's stated needs. nothing's perfect, but it comes the closest.
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Or XMMS2. For users, it's very similiar to mpd. For some reason, I prefer XMMS2. I recommend trying both.
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I meant that in the context of the track title display - audacious has a large bug where it goes 99:59... 01:40...?!?! Then, after 10 mins, 01:41, etc.
100 minutes is 1h 40min, so it seems that audacious can only show time with four digits or something like that.
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btw, has anyone tried m9u? It's like mpd but plan9-ish
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m9u is nothing like mpd - no gapless playback, no seeking, nothing.
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For interfacing with X (keybindings and the disappearing music player), you're better off going through a configurable wm like Openbox.
...which I use already, and have actually hacked and recompiled to suit myself better. cool
Good choice, now it's just time to mess with rc.xml. I recommend you check out Urukrama's blog, he has some good ideas for Openbox keyboard shortcuts.
Space wise, I recommend you just pick up a 250gb - 320gb (Edit: 750gb!!) drive and try to condense things into that. They're about 100$ now wherever you are, and the breathing room is most appreciated by me, since I just came from a 100gb laptop. I'm not sure how small the drives you're working with are, but you might want to just drop the cash for the extra space.
Edit: Wow, good thing I went and checked. 750 GB drives are down to 119$ now? Cripes.
Last edited by coarseSand (2008-09-14 05:57:27)
vim? EMACS? Pssh, I code in Scribus.
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Seriously, the best programmers are the ones that dislike pretty much everything anyone has ever designed. Go make one and post it here!
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Seriously, the best programmers are the ones that dislike pretty much everything anyone has ever designed. Go make one and post it here!
Noes!
Good choice, now it's just time to mess with rc.xml.
rc.xml is awesome
And I have some keyboard shortcuts set up already - it occured to me one day that dragging the very edge(s) of a window is just plain dumb. There are some rules or something in HID (human interface design) that dictate that smaller objects translate to a greater distance or something, and I agree with all that - "focusing" on small resize grippers is stupid! So when I want to resize a window I hold down Win+Shift and drag near the "area" of the window I want to move. So the middle-right-ish area of the window will resize the right hand part of the window horizontally, the right-bottom-ish area will resize the window both horizontally and vertically, etc. It's great.
You're probably really interested right now so here's the required code to make it go:
<mousebind button="S-W-Left" action="Drag">
<action name="Resize"/>
</mousebind>
Put that in your <mouse> -> <context name="Frame"> section, and then give it a whirl. Don't be afraid to see how far into the window you can drag with it still working
-dav7
Last edited by dav7 (2008-09-15 07:17:28)
Windows was made for looking at success from a distance through a wall of oversimplicity. Linux removes the wall, so you can just walk up to success and make it your own.
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Reinventing the wheel is fun. You get to redefine pi.
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I think there's already something built in (like, comes in rc.xml by default) that does that.
Alt+right mouse button == resize
Alt+left mouse button == move
I might have changed something, but it should be something like that
btw, hi dav7
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Yup those keybindings comes in the default rc.xml
What would be really nice is to combine mousebuttons eg. left-mousebuttom + right-mousebutton = resize or perhaps using the extra mousbuttons for that.
If you use the mouse to resize, then why not use it only, without the ketboard.
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Yup, alt+right lets you resize your window in Openbox, as well as GNOME and Xfce iirc. It's almost as ubiquitous as Ctrl+C and Ctrl+V, at least on Linux.
And for the love of god Skofo, we don't need any more music players.
vim? EMACS? Pssh, I code in Scribus.
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