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#1 2008-09-15 21:58:50

Jedi Stannis
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Music library growing too large...

I've been using Quod Libet as my music player for a while now, and it is pretty much exactly what I want in a music player.  However, as my music collection grows, it has been slowing down lately.  I have over 8000 songs now, around 40 gigs, and Quod Libet will slow down, peg cpu usage, and crash quite often now.  What other options do I have?  I know Amarok can use a real database backend that should scale way beyond what I currently have, but prefer GTK apps and the Quod Libet interface.  Can MPD handle a library this large?  Any MPD clients that are Quod Libet like?  Anyway to make Quod Libet scale better?

Thanks

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#2 2008-09-15 22:01:07

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Re: Music library growing too large...

You can find ario in AUR. It's an mpd fronend that might suit your needs.

Last edited by moljac024 (2008-09-15 22:02:58)


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#3 2008-09-15 22:07:11

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Re: Music library growing too large...

The ario-svn package has a number of features that 1.1 doesn't have:

http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=19946

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#4 2008-09-15 22:15:51

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Re: Music library growing too large...

MPD handles my music library very well. Fast startup, fast search times and very low cpu usage.

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#5 2008-09-16 00:31:59

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Re: Music library growing too large...

If you're going to go to AUR you might want to try the quodlibet-svn package first.  For some reason building from SVN made Quod Libet act a lot better for me—doesn't lock anymore, it's a lot snappier, etc.  I only have about 3000 songs, though, so my experience might not be comparable.

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#6 2008-09-16 10:12:14

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Re: Music library growing too large...

quodlibet-svn is really nice... but nearly dead too... the main developer is said to be gaming only nowadays and thus has no time for his baby..


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#7 2008-09-16 10:22:05

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Re: Music library growing too large...

mpd handles large libraries with ease. I recommend sonata.

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#8 2008-09-16 10:32:39

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Re: Music library growing too large...

Rasi wrote:

quodlibet-svn is really nice... but nearly dead too... the main developer is said to be gaming only nowadays and thus has no time for his baby..

I know nothing about what is happening in quodlibet dev land, but seems quodlibet was released a couple of days ago after several betas so some development is happening.

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#9 2008-09-16 15:05:31

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Re: Music library growing too large...

I agree with iphitus; mpd + a good client is the best way to play your music library in Linux.


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#10 2008-09-16 15:36:17

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Re: Music library growing too large...

I wouldn't role out the bigger players (Amarok, Rhythmbox, Banshee and Exaile) so quick....


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#11 2008-09-18 20:22:29

Jedi Stannis
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Re: Music library growing too large...

Thanks for all the suggestions.  I gave Amarok and MPD/ario a shot before seeing quodlibet-svn was an option.  Although they were both OK, I really prefer Quodlibet, and the svn version is much more responsive.  I'm not sure how long it will scale for, but hopefully it will keep up.  If not, mpd seems like a good option if I could find a front end that matched what I like from Quodlibet well enough.  Hopefully Quodlibet will continue to be actively maintained as it is my favorite audio player by far!

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#12 2008-09-18 21:21:35

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Re: Music library growing too large...

kclive18 wrote:

I agree with iphitus; mpd + a good client is the best way to play your music library in Linux.

Agree.

Artists:   9694
Albums:    5849
Songs:    77177

Play Time:    1 days, 9:22:13
Uptime:       6 days, 5:39:11
DB Updated:   Thu Sep 18 15:13:25 2008
DB Play Time: 220 days, 4:27:18

And no, it's not slow at all.

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#13 2008-09-19 01:28:47

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Re: Music library growing too large...

dmz, how did you generate those stats?


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#14 2008-09-19 01:35:58

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Re: Music library growing too large...

And you have a how many GB music library?! yikes

Or is it in the order of TBs?!

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#15 2008-09-19 02:04:11

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Re: Music library growing too large...

Well I know I have around 900 albums which is about 62.5 GB


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#16 2008-09-19 03:20:52

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Re: Music library growing too large...

sand_man wrote:

dmz, how did you generate those stats?

mpc stats

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#17 2008-09-19 03:35:31

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Re: Music library growing too large...

dav7 wrote:

And you have a how many GB music library?! yikes

Or is it in the order of TBs?!

-dav7

Not even near a TB. Only 441 GB. Note that this is only music that I really can enjoy. It's nice to load loads of music in the playlist and just hit shuffle when it's party time, you know.

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#18 2008-09-19 06:21:17

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Re: Music library growing too large...

ty ~ > mpc stats
Artists:    430
Albums:     893
Songs:     7612

Play Time:    0 days, 0:00:00
Uptime:       0 days, 8:28:22
DB Updated:   Thu Sep 18 17:57:08 2008
DB Play Time: 27 days, 13:45:35
ty ~ >

Thanks dmz


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#19 2008-09-19 06:30:31

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Re: Music library growing too large...

Artists:   2772
Albums:    4450
Songs:    51984

Play Time:    0 days, 0:00:00
Uptime:       0 days, 0:00:09
DB Updated:   Sat Sep 13 18:49:01 2008
DB Play Time: 151 days, 19:39:05

~1.5TB, Lossless only, no slowdowns whatsoever.


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#20 2008-09-19 13:40:33

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Re: Music library growing too large...

Artists:    464
Albums:     881
Songs:     8266

Play Time:    0 days, 2:21:53
Uptime:       0 days, 14:36:48
DB Updated:   Fri Sep 19 09:15:39 2008
DB Play Time: 28 days, 18:03:07

And I thought I had a big library...

What kinds of music do you guys listen to? I've got lots of blues, jamband, classic rock. Some other odds and ends.

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#21 2008-09-19 13:53:50

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Re: Music library growing too large...

Daenyth wrote:
Artists:    464
Albums:     881
Songs:     8266

Play Time:    0 days, 2:21:53
Uptime:       0 days, 14:36:48
DB Updated:   Fri Sep 19 09:15:39 2008
DB Play Time: 28 days, 18:03:07

And I thought I had a big library...

What kinds of music do you guys listen to? I've got lots of blues, jamband, classic rock. Some other odds and ends.

http://www.last.fm/user/betbot smile

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#22 2008-09-19 16:28:46

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Re: Music library growing too large...

It takes a true audiophile to require The Spice Girls in lossless quality lol

Here's me: http://www.last.fm/user/Arch
That's right, I nabbed the nick Arch way back in 2004 on Audioscrobbler and Neowin.net smile  Arch Linux and I were meant to be together.

And to derail this thread a little bit: does anybody know of a linux music player that doesn't use a database?  Just adds files from your directories ala Foobar?

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#23 2008-09-19 16:52:58

dmz
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Re: Music library growing too large...

luciferin wrote:

It takes a true audiophile to require The Spice Girls in lossless quality lol

Here's me: http://www.last.fm/user/Arch
That's right, I nabbed the nick Arch way back in 2004 on Audioscrobbler and Neowin.net smile  Arch Linux and I were meant to be together.

And to derail this thread a little bit: does anybody know of a linux music player that doesn't use a database?  Just adds files from your directories ala Foobar?

The Spice Girls is very underestimated. And Mel C is a hell of a girl. So beautiful.. I wish.. oh well. Maybe you want to take a look at mocp or cmus, if you dont want to use mpd.

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#24 2008-09-19 17:00:23

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Re: Music library growing too large...

luciferin wrote:

And to derail this thread a little bit: does anybody know of a linux music player that doesn't use a database?  Just adds files from your directories ala Foobar?

Why would that matter? It's not something you would notice how a program stores its data...

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#25 2008-09-19 17:23:51

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Re: Music library growing too large...

wine foobar2000.exe big_smile

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