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#1 2008-09-27 08:48:23

ezzetabi
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lxde and fam

the lx desktop environment does not work well without fam.
Maybe fam should be added as dependency?

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#2 2008-09-27 11:31:46

cwjiof
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Re: lxde and fam

In fact, you'd like to replace fam by gamin.

See: http://wiki.lxde.org/en/ArchLinux

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#3 2008-09-27 13:13:36

ezzetabi
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Re: lxde and fam

This is nice and cool, but you can install lxde with nor fam nor gamin. Isn't this a problem?
Probably lxde should have fam as dep and gamin should replace fam.

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#4 2008-09-27 15:25:38

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Re: lxde and fam

Can someone give a quick comparison of gamin vs fam?


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#5 2008-09-27 16:15:19

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Re: lxde and fam

Xyne wrote:

Can someone give a quick comparison of gamin vs fam?

http://www.gnome.org/~veillard/gamin/overview.html

From my personal experience, gamin is far less prone to race conditions between threads than fam. gamin should be enough to do anything that's needed to be done; inotify covers everything else.

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#6 2008-09-27 17:12:19

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Re: lxde and fam

Thanks, skottish.


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#7 2008-09-28 15:18:18

ezzetabi
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Re: lxde and fam

Well? The packages will be updated somewhat?

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#8 2008-09-28 15:29:33

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Re: lxde and fam

I doubt fam/gamin will be added as a dependency as it is not needed to run lxde.  It just adds some nice features.  Perhaps it would be good to add it as an optdepend to lxde-common.  File a feature request and see what the maintainer thinks.

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#9 2008-09-28 15:41:53

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Re: lxde and fam

Well, I noticed I was lacking fam/gamin because the lxde split a huge error message just after starting... It works more or less after, but it did not seem really optional.  I'll file a feature request.

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#10 2008-09-28 16:09:28

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Re: lxde and fam

fam (or gamin) is already a dependency of pcmanfm which is lxde's default file manager.

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#11 2008-09-28 17:09:01

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Re: lxde and fam

But I cannot find gamin in the dependencies.

[~] % pacman -Qi pcmanfm
Name           : pcmanfm
Version        : 0.5-2
URL            : http://pcmanfm.sourceforge.net/
Licenses       : GPL  
Groups         : lxde  
Provides       : None
Depends On     : gtk2  hal  fam  startup-notification  shared-mime-info  desktop-file-utils  
Optional Deps  : None
Required By    : None
Conflicts With : None
Replaces       : None
Installed Size : 1192.00 K
Packager       : Geoffroy Carrier <geoffroy.carrier@koon.fr>
Architecture   : i686
Build Date     : 2008.09.20 (Sat) 13:39:37
Install Date   : 2008.09.20 (Sat) 15:10:48
Install Reason : Explicitly installed
Install Script : Yes
Description    : File manager of the LXDE Desktop

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#12 2008-09-28 19:19:41

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Re: lxde and fam

[skottish@iasE ~]$ pacman -Qi gamin
Name           : gamin
Version        : 0.1.9-4
URL            : http://www.gnome.org/~veillard/gamin
Licenses       : GPL  
Groups         : None
Provides       : fam  
Depends On     : glib2  
Optional Deps  : None
Required By    : gnome-vfs  pcmanfm  
Conflicts With : fam  
Replaces       : None
Installed Size : 195.94 K
Packager       : Abhishek Dasgupta <abhidg@gmail.com>
Architecture   : x86_64
Build Date     : Mon 28 Jul 2008 06:18:26 AM PDT
Install Date   : Fri 01 Aug 2008 05:43:51 PM PDT
Install Reason : Explicitly installed
Install Script : No
Description    : Gamin is a file and directory monitoring system defined to be a
                 subset of the FAM (File Alteration Monitor) system.

gamin provides fam.

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