Man pages present, utilities absent? ("at" "talk" others?) [Solved]

pseudonomous · 2008-10-08 22:06:43

Hi,

I wasn't sure where to post this so I'm gonna post it here.

I've got man page entries from certain utiilities from the posix programmers manual, like "at" and "talk" but these utilities aren't actually installed,
I've searched the pacman repository and I'm not actually sure these utilities are even provided as a package at all.

Is there something that I can use like "at"? (besides crontabs)

Also, is this worth filing a bug report over? (I searched the bugs list, I didn't find anything matching this description, although I only tried searching for "man pages" and "posix", and only checked the first page for "man pages".

There's also some problems with viewing certain man-pages, like that dhcpcd man page where some of the characters are garbled, but I think this is probably a known bug relating to the switchover to UTF-8 as the standard locale.

Thanks

Last edited by pseudonomous (2008-10-08 23:30:57)

Mr.Elendig · 2008-10-08 22:29:58

extra/at 3.1.10-1
    AT and batch delayed command scheduling utility and daemon.

`talk` is afaik not provided in any package, but I might be mistaken

You got the man page for them because the man page is provided by the man-pages package.

pseudonomous · 2008-10-08 22:36:08

Thanks,

I guess I missed it since I'm not so good with regexp searching and you get a huge slew of results just looking for "at".

Just to clarify:

Are all man-pages actually provided by the man-pages package? Or are these just the man pages for things in the base system (plus, apparently, the posix programmers manual) while other things are provided by the actual package which the man-page refers too?

Becuase I swear I don't normally have man pages for things I haven't installed. But I could just have a faulty memory.

Mr.Elendig · 2008-10-08 23:19:46

Some are provided by the man-pages package, and some are provided by the app itself.

Onwards · 2008-10-09 08:37:51

The pkg 'man-pages' is directly taken from http://www.kernel.org/doc/man-pages/, which is funded by the Linux Foundation. You can see in the link that this pkg provides man pages for system-calls, glibc lib functions, device-files, file-formats and section 7 (miscellanea).

Each pkg (e.g. util-linux-ng) is supposed to provide it's own manual pages. The 'POSIX programmer manuals' are provided to document the fact that how should these utilities behave or be implemented (if somebody wants to implement them...). This doesn't mean that these utilities are installed (they may be if their pkg is installed).

Hope it helps !!

P.S. POSIX is a *nix standardization effort.

Last edited by Onwards (2009-01-17 18:35:11)

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#1 2008-10-08 22:06:43

Man pages present, utilities absent? ("at" "talk" others?) [Solved]

#2 2008-10-08 22:29:58

Re: Man pages present, utilities absent? ("at" "talk" others?) [Solved]

#3 2008-10-08 22:36:08

Re: Man pages present, utilities absent? ("at" "talk" others?) [Solved]

#4 2008-10-08 23:19:46

Re: Man pages present, utilities absent? ("at" "talk" others?) [Solved]

#5 2008-10-09 08:37:51

Re: Man pages present, utilities absent? ("at" "talk" others?) [Solved]

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