New openbox user

Gauvenator · 2008-10-15 01:14:14

So I'm switching over to openbox, and I've run into a problem:
How do I stop the gnome-panel from starting everytime i log in?

Ghost1227 · 2008-10-15 01:16:44

how are you logging in? if you are using .xinitrc, make sure that it says 'openbox-session' and not 'gnome-session' or 'openbox-gnome-session'.

Gauvenator · 2008-10-15 01:38:53

I am logging in via gdm, with 'openbox-session'

creslin · 2008-10-15 02:27:09

Do you have something along these lines in your ~/.config/openbox/autostart.sh? If so, remove or comment it.

. $GLOBALAUTOSTART

Last edited by creslin (2008-10-15 02:28:02)

Gauvenator · 2008-10-15 02:31:40

This is all I have in that folder:
menu.xml rc.xml

creslin · 2008-10-15 02:33:12

Try creating an empty autostart.sh in that folder.

koch · 2008-10-15 02:42:04

in .xinitrc ...

exec openbox-session

and read the following...

http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Start_X_at_boot

try inittab-method with slim or if you are a lazy guy go down to the bottom of the page and try auto-login as described there

Last edited by koch (2008-10-15 02:44:38)

Gauvenator · 2008-10-15 02:49:16

koch wrote:

in .xinitrc ...
exec openbox-session
and read the following...
http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Start_X_at_boot
try inittab-method with slim or if you are a lazy guy go down to the bottom of the page and try auto-login as described there

ok i will try this. The empty autostart.sh thing didn't work.

Last edited by Gauvenator (2008-10-15 02:49:33)

creslin · 2008-10-15 02:56:17

It's most likely caused from gdm, but I figured might as well check some other options before installing a new manager.

Gauvenator · 2008-10-15 03:29:38

creslin wrote:

It's most likely caused from gdm, but I figured might as well check some other options before installing a new manager.

yah...i tried slim and it works, but I need to figure out how to get all my stuff to automatically start again (bmpanel...etc)

And about gdm; it turns out if I don't have the fusion-icon automatically loading, then it defaults to metacity. Not sure why it won't just load openbox.

thayer · 2008-10-15 04:40:49

yah...i tried slim and it works, but I need to figure out how to get all my stuff to automatically start again (bmpanel...etc)

Use ~/.config/openbox/autostart.sh to autostart applications for your openbox session. For example:

# Run the system-wide support stuff located in
# /etc/xdg/openbox/autostart.sh
# DBUS: loads dbus session and any dbus-aware apps
# GNOME: loads gnome-settings-daemon for desktop/gui management
# KDE: loads kdeinit, precaching KDE background processes
. $GLOBALAUTOSTART

xbindkeys &
xscreensaver -no-splash &
nitrogen --restore &

And about gdm; it turns out if I don't have the fusion-icon automatically loading, then it defaults to metacity. Not sure why it won't just load openbox.

This might be an obvious question, but are you certain you chose "openbox-session" from GDM and not GNOME/Openbox? openbox-session shouldn't bother with ANY gnome-related stuff and it certainly wouldn't run metacity.

Last edited by thayer (2008-10-15 04:41:59)

Gauvenator · 2008-10-15 05:09:48

thayer wrote:

yah...i tried slim and it works, but I need to figure out how to get all my stuff to automatically start again (bmpanel...etc)
Use ~/.config/openbox/autostart.sh to autostart applications for your openbox session. For example:
# Run the system-wide support stuff located in
# /etc/xdg/openbox/autostart.sh
# DBUS: loads dbus session and any dbus-aware apps
# GNOME: loads gnome-settings-daemon for desktop/gui management
# KDE: loads kdeinit, precaching KDE background processes
. $GLOBALAUTOSTART

xbindkeys &
xscreensaver -no-splash &
nitrogen --restore &
And about gdm; it turns out if I don't have the fusion-icon automatically loading, then it defaults to metacity. Not sure why it won't just load openbox.
This might be an obvious question, but are you certain you chose "openbox-session" from GDM and not GNOME/Openbox? openbox-session shouldn't bother with ANY gnome-related stuff and it certainly wouldn't run metacity.

OK so I've tried with the ~/.config/openbox/autostart.sh and it doesn't do my stuff whether I use startx or slim.

. $GLOBALAUTOSTART
/usr/local/bin/nitrogen --restore &
nvidia-settings --load-config-only &
xcompmgr -n &

(sleep 2 && bmpanel "/home/patrick/Downloads/bmp panel themes/arch/arch/") &
(sleep 2 && docker) &

My ~/.xinitrc has this line for openbox:

exec openbox

Not sure why it wont load those programs...hopefully i'm just making a silly mistake you guys will spot
Let me know if there are any other files you all need to see.

Last edited by Gauvenator (2008-10-15 05:10:38)

creslin · 2008-10-15 05:14:05

Change the ~/.xinitrc to this:

exec openbox-session

Remove this line from autostart.sh:

. $GLOBALAUTOSTART

chilebiker · 2008-10-15 21:24:59

man openbox:

The third option at log in, which is Openbox without a session manager, uses the openbox-session command to start Openbox. On log in, openbox will run the ~/.config/openbox/autostart.sh script if it exists, and will run the system-wide script /etc/xdg/openbox/autostart.sh otherwise.

So you need to do as several people have mentioned before: put "exec openbox-session" in your .xinitrc, and then you can modify autostart.sh to automagically have your programs started.

Gauvenator · 2008-10-15 21:55:53

creslin wrote:

Change the ~/.xinitrc to this:
exec openbox-session
Remove this line from autostart.sh:
. $GLOBALAUTOSTART

chilebiker wrote:

man openbox:
The third option at log in, which is Openbox without a session manager, uses the openbox-session command to start Openbox. On log in, openbox will run the ~/.config/openbox/autostart.sh script if it exists, and will run the system-wide script /etc/xdg/openbox/autostart.sh otherwise.
So you need to do as several people have mentioned before: put "exec openbox-session" in your .xinitrc, and then you can modify autostart.sh to automagically have your programs started.

Yay thankyou both! Changing the line from openbox to openbox-session worked perfectly I just thought those were the same thing before...hehe

Gauvenator · 2008-10-16 05:07:04

OK now that that's solved, I've got a new problem. I'm trying to change my default cursor, but I'm not having much success.
I made a ~/.Xdefaults with this in it:

Xcursor.theme: human

I've tried gcursor too, and it doesn't work either.

doorknob60 · 2008-10-16 05:16:07

Hmm, I'm a recent Openbox convert (from KDE) and I'd also like to know how to change cursor themes.

thayer · 2008-10-16 05:26:03

Gauvenator wrote:

OK now that that's solved, I've got a new problem. I'm trying to change my default cursor, but I'm not having much success.

Here's mine...note the asterisk where your period is:

Xcursor*theme:  Vanilla-DMZ-AA
Xcursor.size:   22

Also I could be wrong, but I believe theme names are case sensitive too so make sure it's the right case (e.g. human vs. Human)

Last edited by thayer (2008-10-16 05:26:27)

celettu · 2008-10-16 18:03:58

If I'm right, and you want the same mouse pointer as in Ubuntu, that one is NOT called Human, but DMZ-White. Make sure you have the icons in ~/.icons or /usr/share/icons. This is what my .Xdefaults looks like

Xcursor.theme:DMZ-White

SomeGuyDude · 2008-10-16 18:23:50

Is that your entire .Xdefaults? I don't have a file like that, so what I did was just make a folder in /usr/share/icons called "default", made an "index.theme" and put this in it:

[icon theme]
Inherits=a0x

And that worked fine.

Gauvenator · 2008-10-16 21:19:03

celettu wrote:

If I'm right, and you want the same mouse pointer as in Ubuntu, that one is NOT called Human, but DMZ-White. Make sure you have the icons in ~/.icons or /usr/share/icons. This is what my .Xdefaults looks like
Xcursor.theme:DMZ-White

SomeGuyDude wrote:

Is that your entire .Xdefaults? I don't have a file like that, so what I did was just make a folder in /usr/share/icons called "default", made an "index.theme" and put this in it:
[icon theme]
Inherits=a0x
And that worked fine.

Oh. wow. I was entering the wrong icon thing *facepalm. I thought human was the cursor theme lol
I had tried that methot with the index.theme earlier but entered the wrong theme; but now it works great!

Thx for all of you for your help

Gauvenator · 2008-10-21 04:13:13

Ok time for another problem XD

I want OpenOffice to look nice. I tried the export OOO_FORCE_DESKTOP=gnome thing in the autostart.sh, but I'm not sure it works with OpenOffice 3.

Is there a new trick for ooo3?

SomeGuyDude · 2008-10-21 04:48:39

Gauvenator wrote:

Ok time for another problem XD
I want OpenOffice to look nice. I tried the export OOO_FORCE_DESKTOP=gnome thing in the autostart.sh, but I'm not sure it works with OpenOffice 3.
Is there a new trick for ooo3?

http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=427825

That's what I use.

Gauvenator · 2008-10-21 20:45:29

SomeGuyDude wrote:

Gauvenator wrote:
Ok time for another problem XD
I want OpenOffice to look nice. I tried the export OOO_FORCE_DESKTOP=gnome thing in the autostart.sh, but I'm not sure it works with OpenOffice 3.
Is there a new trick for ooo3?
http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=427825
That's what I use.

Yah I was trying to use that, but I didn't realize you had to open OpenOffice from the command line that you typed export OOO_FORCE_DESKTOP=gnome. Now to make a script to do this automatically...

edit: yay it's working

Last edited by Gauvenator (2008-10-21 20:52:29)

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