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#3951 2012-06-01 17:37:10

achilleas.k
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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

I see "xorg-server-1.11.4-2". I assume that's with the recompiled udev Vi0L0 was talking about?

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#3952 2012-06-01 17:53:40

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

achilleas.k wrote:

I see "xorg-server-1.11.4-2". I assume that's with the recompiled udev Vi0L0 was talking about?

Yes, i've just recompiled and uploaded xorg-server packages compiled against systemd-tools package (which provides udev atm)

Now fightining with kernel 3.4
EDIT2: Ok, got fglrx working on 3.4 kernel from [testing] and with catalyst 12.6 b, but 12.4 should also work.
Now i need to script this dirty dirty patches and soon you shall see it
Oh, i was basing on this w41ter post: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/g … ser/251951

EDIT:

szorti wrote:

Is Radeon HD 4xxx the same as Radeon Mobility HD 4xxx? I'm using Mobility HD 4550 on my laptop and it's only 3 years old...

yes, support for this gfx will also be dropped

Last edited by Vi0L0 (2012-06-01 18:14:36)

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#3953 2012-06-01 19:05:56

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

@Vi0l0: could you please keep 12.4 in the catalyst repo (maybe renaming it as catalyst-old or something like that) for those unfortunate souls who owns a pre-5000 vga? It would be nice to provide some rebuild if AMD from time to time provides sporadic updates to work with new kernel/xorg...
Anyway I'm looking forward for a proper PowerPlay implementation in open driver so that I can drop Catalyst.

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#3954 2012-06-01 19:39:52

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

I'm looking to dump ATI and get a previous gen NV card - I'm not sure I want to do business with a company that ceases support for products that are still on retailers shelves.


[img=Speedtest]http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/5145583518[/img]

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#3955 2012-06-01 21:31:54

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

The catalyst test driver seems to be performing very well with gnome 3 and my 6620g without export CLUTTER_VBLANK=none smile very happy so far.


Hp-dv6-6c35DX   
AMD A8-3520m
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#3956 2012-06-01 22:33:16

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

Roken wrote:

I'm looking to dump ATI and get a previous gen NV card - I'm not sure I want to do business with a company that ceases support for products that are still on retailers shelves.

So you want to give money to a company that does absolutely nothing for helping open source graphics drivers instead of the company who has permanently employed people working on the open source graphics stack (which will support your radeon hd 4xxx just fine)?


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#3957 2012-06-01 23:33:54

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

Let's do the comparison between supported and a token gesture to open source shall we:

Between 1/2 and 1/10th performance
Missing basic OpenGL functionality
OpenCL non starter

Don't confuse token gesture with supported, and when I ask for support I only do so in as much as with hardware currently available to buy new from retailers, which includes ALL of the current newly abandoned cards.

EDIT: of course, if they were truly supporting the OS community they could just open source their drivers, period.

Last edited by Roken (2012-06-01 23:37:38)


[img=Speedtest]http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/5145583518[/img]

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#3958 2012-06-02 00:22:15

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

linux 3.4 support for catalyst 12.4
I've added linux 3.4 support into catalyst-generator 12.4-2 package @ AUR.

Like i said it's basing on w41ter's patches from gentoo forums. This rly is a dirty solution but since we have no other...

Working fine here on x86_64 and with kernel from [testing]
Tests are welcome


Edit:

snack wrote:

@Vi0l0: could you please keep 12.4 in the catalyst repo (maybe renaming it as catalyst-old or something like that) for those unfortunate souls who owns a pre-5000 vga? It would be nice to provide some rebuild if AMD from time to time provides sporadic updates to work with new kernel/xorg...

Actually that's what i was going to do wink

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#3959 2012-06-02 08:06:10

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

Vi0L0 wrote:

Edit:

snack wrote:

@Vi0l0: could you please keep 12.4 in the catalyst repo (maybe renaming it as catalyst-old or something like that) for those unfortunate souls who owns a pre-5000 vga? It would be nice to provide some rebuild if AMD from time to time provides sporadic updates to work with new kernel/xorg...

Actually that's what i was going to do wink

Thank you very much.

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#3960 2012-06-02 08:55:33

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

xorgx3 wrote:

Is it normal if I have this output of glxgears (graphic card: Mobility Radeon HD 5400 Series):

303 frames in 5.0 seconds = 60.413 FPS
301 frames in 5.0 seconds = 60.063 FPS
301 frames in 5.0 seconds = 60.064 FPS
301 frames in 5.0 seconds = 60.062 FPS
301 frames in 5.0 seconds = 60.066 FPS
301 frames in 5.0 seconds = 60.066 FPS
300 frames in 5.0 seconds = 59.864 FPS
301 frames in 5.0 seconds = 60.063 FPS
301 frames in 5.0 seconds = 60.066 FPS
301 frames in 5.0 seconds = 60.065 FPS
299 frames in 5.0 seconds = 59.664 FPS
301 frames in 5.0 seconds = 60.064 FPS
301 frames in 5.0 seconds = 60.064 FPS
301 frames in 5.0 seconds = 60.065 FPS

I saw people who FPS were more than 1000.

I am using xorg 1.10.

http://inebium.com/post/glxgears-vertic … blank-mode

export vblank_mode=0
glxgears 

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#3961 2012-06-02 12:09:00

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

Had to roll back to org-server(-common)-1.11.4-1 from yesterday's update as x wouldn't start.

Thoughts?

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#3962 2012-06-02 12:19:23

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

achilleas.k wrote:

Had to roll back to org-server(-common)-1.11.4-1 from yesterday's update as x wouldn't start.

Thoughts?

That's because that new xorg-1.11.4-2 is compiled against the new udev that's currently in [testing]


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#3963 2012-06-02 12:21:33

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

Ugh, I knew I should be paying more attention. Sorry for the stupid question.

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#3964 2012-06-02 14:49:48

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

I'd like to beg for some help.
I've got a laptop with Intel HD3000 and  Radeon HD 6490M. I could use xf86-video-intel with xf86-video-ati,, however I couldn't find a way to switch to the dGPU.

Now I tried catalyst-total from AUR but X won't start (no screens found) and I can't install driver for intel. If someone would be so kind to point out what I'm missing would be appreciated.

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#3965 2012-06-02 15:05:59

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

works perfect for

kernel : 3.3.1-arch
xorg-server : 1.11.4
cards : 6970 HD crossfire 6990 HD (trifire)

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#3966 2012-06-02 15:30:56

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

12.6 beta working good here!

kernel: 3.3.7-ck
xorg: 1.12
card: 6950 shader unlocked

They have even fixed some long standing game bugs (Majesty 2, DA2)...

Thanks Vi0L0!

Last edited by libgradev (2012-06-02 15:31:28)

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#3967 2012-06-02 16:06:07

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

So what do you recommend?

Currently, 12.4 works good but I don't like holding back Xorg packages so the temptation to try 12.6 and upgrade to 1.12 is big. However, as things currently are not broken, I am also a little hesitant because I would like to keep things working big_smile

Tips? Insights?


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#3968 2012-06-02 16:28:00

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

Roken wrote:

Let's do the comparison between supported and a token gesture to open source shall we:

Between 1/2 and 1/10th performance
Missing basic OpenGL functionality
OpenCL non starter

Don't confuse token gesture with supported, and when I ask for support I only do so in as much as with hardware currently available to buy new from retailers, which includes ALL of the current newly abandoned cards.

EDIT: of course, if they were truly supporting the OS community they could just open source their drivers, period.

Older AMD hardware is fully supported, 2D and 3D, in xf86-video-ati.  The open-source developers aren't magicians.  They need time to work on everything.

For AMD open-sourcing their fglrx driver?  It contains too many patents and licensed code which are legal-time-bombs for them if they did so.  They're doing quite a bit already providing hardware documentation to open driver development.  Of course it's not perfect.  But, that doesn't mean that nVidia is suddenly superior to AMD.  nVidia doesn't provide any documentation - nouveau is actively discouraged by them: they recommend using the VESA driver just to get to the point where you can install their proprietary driver.

Intel is my first choice for Linux graphics hardware, followed by AMD, and then trailing, nVidia.

Running right now with a AMD Radeon 6870 1GB and xf86-video-ati.  Xfce 4.10, Compiz desktop.  It works fine.  Of course I don't use it for gaming.  For that I reboot into Windows and use Catalyst.  (Or use my Xbox 360, but hey..) wink


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#3969 2012-06-02 16:48:22

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

Vi0L0 wrote:

linux 3.4 support for catalyst 12.4
I've added linux 3.4 support into catalyst-generator 12.4-2 package @ AUR.

Like i said it's basing on w41ter's patches from gentoo forums. This rly is a dirty solution but since we have no other...

Working fine here on x86_64 and with kernel from [testing]
Tests are welcome

I'm using your latest 12.4 with kernel 3.4. The only issue I've had is that the suspend isn't working.
Another issue is that the /sys/class/backlight folder is empty, so I can't control my screen brightness, but I think that this is kernel related...
Have you tried hacking the latest 12.6 beta? We could have 3.4 kernel and Xorg 1.12...would be great!
Many thanks for your work!

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#3970 2012-06-02 16:54:24

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

Unia wrote:

So what do you recommend?

Currently, 12.4 works good but I don't like holding back Xorg packages so the temptation to try 12.6 and upgrade to 1.12 is big. However, as things currently are not broken, I am also a little hesitant because I would like to keep things working big_smile

Tips? Insights?

I´am using 12.6 with packages from Arch Repo kernel 3.3 and xserver 1.12 works fine. If you have supported hardware, upgrade your driver.


Excuse my poor English.

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#3971 2012-06-02 17:09:30

Unia
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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

agapito wrote:
Unia wrote:

So what do you recommend?

Currently, 12.4 works good but I don't like holding back Xorg packages so the temptation to try 12.6 and upgrade to 1.12 is big. However, as things currently are not broken, I am also a little hesitant because I would like to keep things working big_smile

Tips? Insights?

I´am using 12.6 with packages from Arch Repo kernel 3.3 and xserver 1.12 works fine. If you have supported hardware, upgrade your driver.

Oke you got me big_smile Will build everything now and upgrade and report back!


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#3972 2012-06-02 17:28:03

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

Hmm... it seems to work fine although when playing a video in Mplayer, I get (black) flashes at random. Other than that everything works I think, can't be 100% sure since I've only been running it for 5 minutes


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#3973 2012-06-02 17:39:30

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

Unia wrote:

Hmm... it seems to work fine although when playing a video in Mplayer, I get (black) flashes at random. Other than that everything works I think, can't be 100% sure since I've only been running it for 5 minutes

I don´t have your issue.

Have you selected xv output in mplayer?


Excuse my poor English.

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#3974 2012-06-02 18:24:35

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

agapito wrote:
Unia wrote:

Hmm... it seems to work fine although when playing a video in Mplayer, I get (black) flashes at random. Other than that everything works I think, can't be 100% sure since I've only been running it for 5 minutes

I don´t have your issue.

Have you selected xv output in mplayer?

Nope, I'm using mplayer-vaapi with xvba-video backend. I don't want to look into it at the moment so I just downgraded everything again. 12.4 is working fine for me with the packages from [xorg111]


If you can't sit by a cozy fire with your code in hand enjoying its simplicity and clarity, it needs more work. --Carlos Torres

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#3975 2012-06-02 19:02:06

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

12.6 beta working good here too …

kernel: 3.4.0-1-ck
xorg: 1.12
Mobility Radeon HD 5800 Series

just need too apply this patch w41ter's patches from gentoo forums with some adjustments to compile.

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