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#1 2008-11-03 05:33:39

dav7
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XFree86 and/or Xvesa and friends from Xorg

I just wanted to know these two things:

1, Why isn't XFree86 included?
I assume this goes against some part of the Arch KISS philosophy, in which case I'm fine with it and can/will leave it alone.

2, If #1 is what I think it is, why aren't the Xorg versions of Xvesa, Xephyr, Xfbdev and so on included in the repos?
I can't understand any reason why these should be removed from Arch Xorg packages; if included (even if in another package), they'd provide additional functionality, not take it away.

-dav7

Last edited by dav7 (2008-11-03 05:34:32)


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#2 2008-11-03 10:58:41

iphitus
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Re: XFree86 and/or Xvesa and friends from Xorg

XFree86 is old and effectively unmaintained (last release >1year ago). It was forked and replaced by Xorg.

All of those features (all part of KDrive) have been merged into Xorg. If we don't have the package in the repo, then build it yourself like everyone else does (see the AUR) -- we don't take any functionality away from you.

Google and you'll find that you could make a build of xorg-server enabling the parts you want.

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#3 2008-11-03 11:56:30

dav7
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Re: XFree86 and/or Xvesa and friends from Xorg

I know about ABS. tongue

And thanks, didn't know about XFree86... hah. What's it good for then? lol

-dav7


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#4 2008-11-03 13:59:20

moljac024
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Re: XFree86 and/or Xvesa and friends from Xorg

Xfree86 and Xorg are essentially the same thing - distributions of the X server.
I imagine that the video card drivers in the repos are named xfree86-* because Arch used Xfree86 but never renamed the packages.


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#5 2008-11-03 16:43:09

tomk
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Re: XFree86 and/or Xvesa and friends from Xorg

No, we use the name as given upstream - xorg source tarballs for drivers are named xf86-*.tar.bz2.

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