Debian is awesome

mzilikazi · 2008-11-26 02:34:31

As a long time (8+ years) Debian user I'm usually quite hesitant to even bother with any other distros due to the usual lack of a good package manager (yes RPM I'm looking at you) or the apparently overwhelming desire of some to reinvent Debian (poorly) but after reading so many recommendations (not by fanbois but by real users) about Arch and pacman I just had to give it a shot. What can I say but "Damn Arch is impressive!" No really......I'm amazed at the sheer speed but not just the speed of pacman, also the mirror speed and the boot time as well ( < 12 seconds on an AMD64 X2 1.8GHz w/ 1.5G RAM).

My chosen installation method was a bootstrap (well that's what you'd call it in Debian anyway) from a Debian installation to a spare partition. That went rather flawlessly and the docs were so accurate it was copy/paste easy. Thanks for that. Getting wireless working was also rather painless (of course I do know that my card uses b43 so a leg up there I suppose) but /etc/rc.conf is proving its worth.

Well anyway.... I'm really finding myself having a good time with Arch and look forward to learning more about this very impressive distro. You've all done a great job and should be proud of that.

I think I even saw some of the devs posting in the forums??

Wintervenom · 2008-11-26 02:43:10

Twelve seconds? I wish I could have that with the AMD Turion X2 Ultra at 2.1GHz and four gigs of RAM in my machine, but it still takes it 20 seconds.

Last edited by Wintervenom (2009-08-05 14:27:20)

Ghost1227 · 2008-11-26 03:11:34

Congrats on your first Arch install and welcome aboard!

and yes, you will see TUs, devs, mods, and administrators on the forums... what can I say, we have a great community!

mzilikazi · 2008-11-26 03:15:26

Well I didn't really do anything. I'm not starting Apache or anything unnecessary (including dhcpcd - go with a static ip) and this is to a command prompt login. If you want to include logging in and getting X started then about 15 -16 seconds I suppose.

Allan · 2008-11-26 03:17:49

Devs post on the forums! Where?

kensai · 2008-11-26 03:31:00

Allan wrote:

Devs post on the forums! Where?

Yeah, let me see em, they never answer my questions, and that Kensai guy, he thinks he is funny.

Allan · 2008-11-26 03:36:28

kensai wrote:

and that Kensai guy, he thinks he is funny.

That is right, but he really isn't...

hk2717 · 2008-11-26 10:02:55

You mean "Arch is awesome"?

vacant · 2008-11-26 10:10:52

mzilikazi wrote:

I'm amazed at the sheer speed but not just the speed of pacman, also the mirror speed

Telling pacman to use axel maxes out my line when updating

XferCommand = /usr/bin/axel --output=%o %u

robmaloy · 2008-11-26 10:50:27

mzilikazi wrote:

I think I even saw some of the devs posting in the forums??

even THE BOSS is posting on these forums.

and he can lift a car over his head

Finkregh · 2008-11-26 11:13:55

mzilikazi wrote:

I think I even saw some of the devs posting in the forums??

even THE BOSS is posting on these forums.

and he can lift a car over his head while eating an taco

fixed

mzilikazi · 2008-11-26 12:57:11

hk2717 wrote:

You mean "Arch is awesome"?

I wrote what I intended to write. My point is that my personal standards for a distro are fairly high and not much could sway me from using Debian. Arch has however.

Of course a title like that always draws the curious.

Dieter@be · 2008-11-26 13:46:57

mzilikazi wrote:

hk2717 wrote:
You mean "Arch is awesome"?
I wrote what I intended to write. My point is that my personal standards for a distro are fairly high and not much could sway me from using Debian. Arch has however.

So if Debian is awesome, and Arch is better, then what is Arch? Uber-awesome? Do we even have a word for that level of awesomeness?

rson451 · 2008-11-26 13:49:45

I too come from the spiral distro, and will only go back if I need to use a processor that arch doesn't support. Enjoy your stay.

iphitus · 2008-11-27 12:14:27

Allan wrote:

Devs post on the forums! Where?

rumours!

daf666 · 2008-11-27 14:00:10

mzilikazi wrote:

I think I even saw some of the devs posting in the forums??

Only the slackers

Lord Illidan · 2008-11-27 14:23:20

Dieter@be wrote:

mzilikazi wrote:
hk2717 wrote:
You mean "Arch is awesome"?
I wrote what I intended to write. My point is that my personal standards for a distro are fairly high and not much could sway me from using Debian. Arch has however.
So if Debian is awesome, and Arch is better, then what is Arch? Uber-awesome? Do we even have a word for that level of awesomeness?

Awesome-er.

neotuli · 2008-11-27 20:15:39

daf666 wrote:

mzilikazi wrote:
I think I even saw some of the devs posting in the forums??
Only the slackers

Like me!

Evanlec · 2008-11-27 21:10:02

vacant wrote:

mzilikazi wrote:
I'm amazed at the sheer speed but not just the speed of pacman, also the mirror speed
Telling pacman to use axel maxes out my line when updating
XferCommand = /usr/bin/axel --output=%o %u

Ooh axel is pretty speedy, looks like it makes multiple connections to the site. Been looking for a cmd line download accelerator. thanks for that

MetalheadGautham · 2008-11-28 07:37:00

Intresting. I too migrated to pacman from Debian, but, due to the circumstances, I used Debian (Lenny) only for a couple of days before installin Sidux and staying with it for a month or two., and before that I used ubuntu for a little more than an year. It was kdemod which attracted me towards archlinux, and with a few of my friends at IRC telling me that Debian's Gnome is slower than kdemod of arch (and I was with Debian-KDE at that time since I started hating gnome on ubuntu) I HAD to install arch. The rest, as they say, is history.

doorknob60 · 2008-11-28 07:54:03

I was like that too. I was hooked to apt, because it was the only package manager I liked (it is pretty good). So the only distros I let myself use for a while were Debian and the *buntu's. I'm glad I tried Arch though, Pacman rules! It's so fast, and it works better. I don't get dependency hell like when you'd try to upgrade from one version of Ubuntu to another...that got pretty bad sometimes (was better in Debian). Anyways, Debian is awesome, Arch is awesomer

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