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#1 2008-11-30 04:22:11
- originalsurfmex
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[SOLVED] strange freezing and lockups
im running arch64 on an hp tx2000, everything is finally setup (arch is great) buuuut...
my system freezes at random moments during bootup and when restarting or shutting down, it will also lockup when im working in the basic shell (when x is isnt running, and when kdemod isnt running) it never freezes while im running kdemod. but if i am installing stuff from pacman or yaourt, the process often times locks up. i know when my system is locked becouse (other than everything stopping and going unresponsive) the caps lock light starts blinking.
i read in some forum posts that some people had been able to sort of workaround this situation by repeatedly hitting <enter> during bootup and shutdown seqentces- i dont unerstand why but this works most of the time, however now im trying to install nvidia-beta drivers in a basic bash shell, but i cant because my system locks during the compiling process.
ive learned alot, but im still scratching the surface, here are some interrupts results...
cat /proc/interrupts
CPU0 CPU1
0: 800 129539 IO-APIC-edge timer
1: 6 1970 IO-APIC-edge i8042
7: 1 0 IO-APIC-edge
8: 0 1 IO-APIC-edge rtc0
9: 4 545 IO-APIC-fasteoi acpi
12: 20 763 IO-APIC-edge i8042
14: 12 3694 IO-APIC-edge ide0
17: 0 609 IO-APIC-fasteoi HDA Intel
18: 95 25792 IO-APIC-fasteoi nvidia
19: 100 16436 IO-APIC-fasteoi eth1
20: 157 43973 IO-APIC-fasteoi eth0
21: 118 25330 IO-APIC-fasteoi sata_nv
22: 39 9896 IO-APIC-fasteoi ehci_hcd:usb2
23: 1 29 IO-APIC-fasteoi ohci_hcd:usb1
NMI: 0 0 Non-maskable interrupts
LOC: 79040 23731 Local timer interrupts
RES: 23425 13368 Rescheduling interrupts
CAL: 168462 43476 function call interrupts
TLB: 696 480 TLB shootdowns
TRM: 0 0 Thermal event interrupts
THR: 0 0 Threshold APIC interrupts
SPU: 0 0 Spurious interrupts
ERR: 1suggestions...for the record the only thing i cant get to work is my fingerprint reader, but thats cuz the software is kinda wonky, and i dont really miss it. (im also missing two buttons multimedia keyboard(never used em in windows either though) and i havent messed with the bluetooth sinse i have no bluetooth stuff to speak of).
what can i do about this freezing problem??
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#2 2008-12-02 23:21:43
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Re: [SOLVED] strange freezing and lockups
Hi,
Have you tried using acpi=off kernel parameter ?
Ynon
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#3 2008-12-03 01:42:46
- originalsurfmex
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Re: [SOLVED] strange freezing and lockups
thanks for the suggestion, that was actually the first thing i tried (about 2 weeks ago) and it didn't change things, but this time its helping somewhat, the freezes are far less frequent now (perhaps its due to the recent kernel update)
here's what i did (for any other noobs out there like myself) to preserve my power management:
sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lstand added this to the end of the kernel line:
apm=on acpi=offon some computers this lets you have power management even though acpi is off (guru's im sure will correct me if i'm mistaken)
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#4 2008-12-03 02:20:42
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Re: [SOLVED] strange freezing and lockups
theres a couple of things i dont understand...
1. even though i have acpi=off and i don't have any acpi modules in rc.conf - i still see acpi messages on bootup. (yes it still does freeze on bootup/shutdown, just less often)
2. whey did hitting enter over and over again help prevent the lockups?
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#5 2008-12-03 03:30:53
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Re: [SOLVED] strange freezing and lockups
Have you tried booting with these options?
noapic nolapicLinux on some machines has problems with APIC that cause kernel panics.
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#6 2008-12-03 04:22:10
- originalsurfmex
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Re: [SOLVED] strange freezing and lockups
okay, did it! my boot up is actually faster, and i can still manage power...if i get no lockups over the next few days ill mark this as solved. thanks a million.
if anyone can answer why hitting enter repeatedly used to help, i would live to know. thanks for all the help.
<edit>...bad news, it just froze again while loading UDEV (i restarted the system like 8 times since i changed the boot menu)...and APIC still shows up on the bootup and shutdown processes...am i missing something?
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#7 2008-12-03 06:19:46
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Re: [SOLVED] strange freezing and lockups
Hi,
can you be more specific about the acpi output messages ? (publish a dmesg | grep -i acpi output here). And in addition, the parts from /var/log/messages right after a freeze. And also the output of lsmod.
Usually when a system freezes it has to do with video drivers, power management or some sort of faulty driver. I assume video is not the problem at your case, because you say it happens without X as well. If acpi is not the issue here, you should try adding debug support to your running modules.
I assume your hardware works without freezes on other OSs ?
Ynon
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#8 2008-12-05 07:11:57
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Re: [SOLVED] strange freezing and lockups
ok, i made a very dumb mistake. the whole time ive been editing menu.lst, however i forgot that i actually use the groub menu from my kubuntu on a different partition. i finally edited things correctly.
i can't disable acpi, if i do that it wrecks my nvidia and i can't startx
noapic is working, it has greatly reduced the freezes, ive only had one freeze - but it was several boots back and i dont have the error log for it.
here are the ouputs you suggested posting:
dmesg | grep -i acpi:
BIOS-e820: 00000000b7f00000 - 00000000b7f0a000 (ACPI data)
BIOS-e820: 00000000b7f0a000 - 00000000b7f80000 (ACPI NVS)
ACPI: RSDP 000F8920, 0014 (r0 HP )
ACPI: RSDT B7F00926, 0040 (r1 HPQOEM SLIC-MPC 6040000 LTP 0)
ACPI: FACP B7F09AD4, 0074 (r1 HP MCP51M 6040000 PTL_ F4240)
ACPI: DSDT B7F00966, 916E (r1 HP MCP51M 6040000 MSFT 3000000)
ACPI: FACS B7F0AFC0, 0040
ACPI: SSDT B7F09B48, 0248 (r1 HP POWERNOW 6040000 LTP 1)
ACPI: MCFG B7F09D90, 003C (r1 HP MCFG 6040000 LTP 0)
ACPI: HPET B7F09DCC, 0038 (r1 PTLTD HPETTBL 6040000 LTP 1)
ACPI: APIC B7F09E04, 005E (r1 HP APIC 6040000 LTP 0)
ACPI: BOOT B7F09E62, 0028 (r1 HP $SBFTBL$ 6040000 LTP 1)
ACPI: SLIC B7F09E8A, 0176 (r1 HPQOEM SLIC-MPC 6040000 LTP 1)
ACPI: DMI detected: Hewlett-Packard
ACPI: PM-Timer IO Port: 0x1008
ACPI: Local APIC address 0xfee00000
ACPI: LAPIC (acpi_id[0x00] lapic_id[0x00] enabled)
ACPI: LAPIC (acpi_id[0x01] lapic_id[0x01] enabled)
ACPI: LAPIC_NMI (acpi_id[0x00] high edge lint[0x1])
ACPI: LAPIC_NMI (acpi_id[0x01] high edge lint[0x1])
ACPI: IOAPIC (id[0x02] address[0xfec00000] gsi_base[0])
ACPI: INT_SRC_OVR (bus 0 bus_irq 0 global_irq 2 dfl dfl)
ACPI: IRQ0 used by override.
ACPI: IRQ2 used by override.
ACPI: IRQ9 used by override.
ACPI: HPET id: 0x10de8201 base: 0xfed00000
Using ACPI (MADT) for SMP configuration information
ACPI: Core revision 20080609
ACPI: Checking initramfs for custom DSDT
ACPI: bus type pci registered
ACPI: EC: Look up EC in DSDT
ACPI: BIOS _OSI(Linux) query ignored via DMI
ACPI: Interpreter enabled
ACPI: (supports S0 S3 S4 S5)
ACPI: Using IOAPIC for interrupt routing
ACPI: EC: non-query interrupt received, switching to interrupt mode
ACPI: EC: GPE = 0x10, I/O: command/status = 0x66, data = 0x62
ACPI: EC: driver started in interrupt mode
ACPI: PCI Root Bridge [PCI0] (0000:00)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Routing Table [\_SB_.PCI0._PRT]
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Routing Table [\_SB_.PCI0.P2P0._PRT]
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Routing Table [\_SB_.PCI0.XVR1._PRT]
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Routing Table [\_SB_.PCI0.XVR2._PRT]
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNK1] (IRQs 5 7 10 11 14 15) *0, disabled.
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNK2] (IRQs 5 7 *10 11 14 15)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNK3] (IRQs 5 7 10 11 14 15) *0, disabled.
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNK4] (IRQs 5 7 10 11 14 15) *0, disabled.
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LK1E] (IRQs 19) *0, disabled.
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LK2E] (IRQs 16 17 20 22 23) *0, disabled.
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LK3E] (IRQs 18) *10
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LK4E] (IRQs 16 17 20 22 23) *0, disabled.
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LSMB] (IRQs 16 17 20 22 23) *10
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LPMU] (IRQs 16 17 20 22 23) *11
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LUS0] (IRQs 16 17 20 22 23) *11
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LUS2] (IRQs 16 17 20 22 23) *7
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LMAC] (IRQs 16 17 20 22 23) *11
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LAZA] (IRQs 16 17 20 22 23) *0, disabled.
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LACI] (IRQs 16 17 20 22 23) *0, disabled.
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LMCI] (IRQs 16 17 20 22 23) *0, disabled.
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LPID] (IRQs 16 17 20 22 23) *0, disabled.
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LTID] (IRQs 21) *5
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LSI1] (IRQs 21) *0
pnp: PnP ACPI init
ACPI: bus type pnp registered
pnp: PnP ACPI: found 13 devices
ACPI: ACPI bus type pnp unregistered
PCI: Using ACPI for IRQ routing
ACPI: RTC can wake from S4
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LTID] enabled at IRQ 21
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LUS2] enabled at IRQ 23
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LUS0] enabled at IRQ 22
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LMAC] enabled at IRQ 20
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LAZA] enabled at IRQ 17
ACPI: AC Adapter [ACAD] (on-line)
ACPI: Battery Slot [BAT0] (battery present)
ACPI: Power Button (FF) [PWRF]
ACPI: Power Button (CM) [PWRB]
ACPI: Sleep Button (CM) [SLPB]
ACPI: Lid Switch [LID]
ACPI: processor limited to max C-state 1
processor ACPI0007:00: registered as cooling_device0
processor ACPI0007:01: registered as cooling_device1
ACPI: Thermal Zone [THRM] (71 C)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LK1E] enabled at IRQ 19
ACPI: WMI: Mapper loaded
acpi device:2d: registered as cooling_device2
ACPI: Video Device [UVGA] (multi-head: yes rom: no post: no)
ACPI: \_SB_.PCI0.IDE0.PRI0.MAST: found ejectable bay
ACPI: \_SB_.PCI0.IDE0.PRI0.MAST: Adding notify handler
ACPI: Bay [\_SB_.PCI0.IDE0.PRI0.MAST] Added
ACPI: Video Device [VGA] (multi-head: yes rom: no post: no)
nvidia 0000:00:05.0: power state changed by ACPI to D0
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LK3E] enabled at IRQ 18lsmod:
Module Size Used by
michael_mic 4736 4
arc4 4096 4
ecb 5248 4
crypto_blkcipher 19972 1 ecb
ipv6 309480 10
fuse 59584 6
joydev 14080 0
serio_raw 8324 0
psmouse 44700 0
k8temp 7296 0
sg 34528 0
uvcvideo 61064 0
compat_ioctl32 11392 1 uvcvideo
videodev 38784 2 uvcvideo,compat_ioctl32
v4l1_compat 17796 2 uvcvideo,videodev
wacom 24840 0
pcspkr 4864 0
hci_usb 17560 0
ssb 47236 0
pcmcia 39576 1 ssb
bluetooth 60836 1 hci_usb
bay 6912 0
pcmcia_core 38564 2 ssb,pcmcia
video 21780 9
output 5248 1 video
nvidia 7809352 28
i2c_nforce2 9224 0
wmi 8640 0
i2c_core 25760 2 nvidia,i2c_nforce2
ieee80211_crypt_tkip 11776 0
wl 1079104 0
ieee80211_crypt 7300 2 ieee80211_crypt_tkip,wl
thermal 20640 0
processor 40760 1 thermal
fan 7304 0
evdev 13984 15
button 9504 0
battery 14600 0
ac 7176 0
snd_seq_oss 35584 0
snd_seq_midi_event 9344 1 snd_seq_oss
snd_seq 58336 4 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event
snd_seq_device 9364 2 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq
snd_hda_intel 474672 3
snd_hwdep 10632 1 snd_hda_intel
snd_pcm_oss 45568 0
snd_pcm 82440 3 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm_oss
snd_timer 24720 2 snd_seq,snd_pcm
snd_page_alloc 10640 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm
snd_mixer_oss 18944 1 snd_pcm_oss
snd 64840 14 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_seq_device,snd_hda_intel,snd_hwdep,snd_pcm_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_mixer_oss
soundcore 9632 1 snd
forcedeth 60432 0
rtc_cmos 13112 0
rtc_core 21060 1 rtc_cmos
rtc_lib 4992 1 rtc_core
usbhid 51552 0
hid 50496 1 usbhid
ff_memless 7688 1 usbhid
ext3 140560 2
jbd 56104 1 ext3
mbcache 10244 1 ext3
ohci_hcd 27548 0
isp1760 22320 0
sd_mod 29224 5
ide_cd_mod 37000 0
cdrom 39080 1 ide_cd_mod
ehci_hcd 40332 0
usbcore 156816 8 uvcvideo,wacom,hci_usb,usbhid,ohci_hcd,isp1760,ehci_hcd
sata_nv 28552 4
libata 171360 1 sata_nv
dock 11168 2 bay,libata
scsi_mod 113144 3 sg,sd_mod,libata
ide_pci_generic 6660 0
amd74xx 9096 0
ide_core 113020 3 ide_cd_mod,ide_pci_generic,amd74xxand yes, you are correct, there are no freezes in kubuntu or pendrivelinux, the only other linux's ive run on this machine.
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#9 2008-12-08 04:22:09
- originalsurfmex
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Re: [SOLVED] strange freezing and lockups
i reinstalled my system, and the freezes kept coming - - but thanks to your suggested combination at boot:
noapic nolapic
i have rebooted about 50 times, and no freezes!
thanks!!!
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