Anyone here play M:tG

Daenyth · 2008-12-01 03:03:38

So, anyone here play? Do you play online at all? I used to be active in the magic-league.com community, but it's gone downhill a lot.

What programs do you use if you play? The old Apprentice? MTGO? MWS (ew...)? Scrollrack or Mindless?

Maybe we can find some like-minded people to game with here... I'd love it. (T1/1.5 preferred )

kludge · 2008-12-01 18:56:23

never played the computer versions, but i still have my red & green deck (in storage at folks' place) with a couple alpha cards and the rabid wombat+regeneration+lure+venom trick. nothing newer than fallen empires! tourney 1 standard ftw!

LTSmash · 2008-12-01 21:27:53

I used to play with the Magic Workstation under Windows, and also under Wine, but that was a while ago... however I have some real decks hanging around

Daenyth · 2008-12-01 21:45:09

Yeah.. pretty much the same here except I never touched MWS (ew).

Oddly enough, Appr is more stable under wine than on windows.

We should get some people together and play... Maybe I could try to package scrollrack and put it in arch-games.

LTSmash · 2008-12-01 23:57:25

Daenyth wrote:

We should get some people together and play... Maybe I could try to package scrollrack and put it in arch-games.

Please

sand_man · 2008-12-02 02:37:28

I have a copy of the old Windows 95 game. I don't think I was able to get it to work under Wine.
I would love to play though

Daenyth · 2008-12-02 04:18:18

Ohh, Shandalar? I loved that game. The AI was laughably bad, but it was a blast to play. I had a ridiculous deck with like 3 time walk, moxen, some of the ante cards, draw7s. It could reliably make infinite turns on turns 1-3, killed with black vise, or regrow ancestral recall, or bolt.

Unfortunately I forgot to back it up when I erased windows for slackware. Oh well. Sad to hear that it doesn't work under wine, but I bet vbox would do the trick since it's not got any fancy graphics.

Anyway, I've packaged smack as java-smack in AUR. It's a depend for scrollrack, hopefully tomorrow I'll get SR up and running. For a java app, it's surprisingly hard to get going...

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moljac024 · 2008-12-02 13:27:27

Yup, I played the card game very briefly.
Since I never wanted to spend much money on some silly cards I never got far and got quickly bored.
Not at the game, the game is fun, but at the money prerequisite. Looks like one big hooker. That's why I only play poker nowadays

But pen&paper dungeons&dragons with a good crew is one hell of an experience. Wish I played that more...

buttons · 2008-12-02 14:02:54

MTG? Every day The paper version, though.

As far as online goes, I played MTGO before it went v3 and wine stopped working (I'm not sure whether it works now, I've resolved not to check.)

I still play on MWS, but through VirtualBox. Wine works but it has a few showstoppers I'd rather just not deal with.

SiC · 2008-12-02 15:32:35

I got addicted to it for a very short time (the cardgame that is). Have a large shoe box full of cards. Don't even remember how to play now.

Daenyth · 2008-12-02 17:27:48

Sorry to keep people waiting, but I just cannot get scrollrack to work right. Maybe someone more familiar with how java works can have a look and tell me what I must do...

Using this tarball I get the following error:

daenyth@Muspelheimr ~ $ scrollrack
Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: net/sourceforge/scrollrack/Game
Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: net.sourceforge.scrollrack.Game
    at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(URLClassLoader.java:200)
    at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
    at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(URLClassLoader.java:188)
    at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:307)
    at sun.misc.Launcher$AppClassLoader.loadClass(Launcher.java:301)
    at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:252)
    at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClassInternal(ClassLoader.java:320)
Could not find the main class: net.sourceforge.scrollrack.Game.  Program will exit.

EDIT: mgroman helped me find the problem. It was pebkac in the PKGBUILD. Everything should be working now, the program is in aur as scrollrack

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sand_man · 2008-12-02 22:51:41

Thanks Daenyth. Going to build this now.
OK so I just noticed that because of the way scrollrack works, I may need someone to watch me so I don't accidentally cheat
It's been a while since I played

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Daenyth · 2008-12-03 13:13:58

Yeah, scrollrack doesn't know any rules for the game. It just provides various functions to interact with the deck and tabletop. That's one of the reasons I like it actually, it allows for a lot more freeform play than MTGO. You play like you're in person, whereas MTGO you have to explicitly declare every phase and response to phase starts, etc.

DonVla · 2008-12-03 21:59:11

that's cool. never knew that there are mtg computer platforms.
perhaps we'll meet sometime online
which works best? Scrollrack or Mindless?
are there some more?

Daenyth · 2008-12-03 23:17:31

Scrollrack is more secure and (slightly) more developed. Mindless is compatible with Apprentice. I'd use SR unless you're playing against someone who refuses to install SR and uses Appr, which is really unlikely. The website which hosts Appr hasn't put out patches for the new sets, so you'd even have to do that yourself. It's pretty much all MWS now... Shame really, MWS only became popular because Apprentice doesn't have encryption, and also has one or two relevent bugs.

DonVla · 2008-12-04 00:14:31

Daenyth wrote:

It's pretty much all MWS now... Shame really, MWS only became popular because Apprentice doesn't have encryption, and also has one or two relevent bugs.

what is MWS?

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buttons · 2008-12-04 00:33:21

www.magicworkstation.com

It's buggy as hell and doesn't quite work with wine but it's the best thing out there for now.

For now.

DonVla · 2008-12-04 00:55:28

wow scrollrack is really cool!
i'm making a deck right now
does someone want to play a game?

Daenyth · 2008-12-04 01:45:00

I suggest that anyone interested in playing should head on over to the #archlinux-gaming channel on irc.freenode.net
I'll be uploading scrollrack to the Arch Games repo project tonight.

EDIT: All set, they're in the repos. I don't know if they actually do work on x86_64, but it's java so it should be portable.

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sand_man · 2008-12-04 04:07:41

I'll only play if I can have this card in my deck

buttons · 2008-12-04 04:48:50

Daenyth wrote:

I suggest that anyone interested in playing should head on over to the #archlinux-gaming channel on irc.freenode.net
I'll be uploading scrollrack to the Arch Games repo project tonight.
EDIT: All set, they're in the repos. I don't know if they actually do work on x86_64, but it's java so it should be portable.

They do work on x86_64

...and I must say wow! This is actually pretty mature. I'll have to play around with this more. It should be perfect for goldfishing and I won't even have to load virtualbox!

buttons · 2008-12-04 04:50:22

and I have to say that's the best chuck norris card I've seen. I've seen a lot of chuck norris cards.

Daenyth · 2008-12-05 23:14:21

Just thought I'd remind people to come to #archlinux-gaming on freenode if you want to play...

Daenyth · 2008-12-06 14:43:27

For any players returning from before the big 6th edition rules change:

An article from '99 on the change from 5th to 6th: here
A large set-based primer for returning players: here
The main rulebook and comprehensive rules, along with FAQs: here
And a general rules FAQ: here

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Cerebral · 2008-12-06 15:39:44

I used to play all the time in high school; slowly dropped out of it after coming to Uni though. Now I rarely play, but I've still got a couple of cardboxes full of random stuff. Every now and again I'll go get a booster or two just for kicks.

Didn't realize there were decent PC platforms for it though. Neat.

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