Tiling wm with simple configuration?

Roberth · 2008-12-05 19:25:11

Hello, I like tiling window managers, but I don't the configurations syntaxes that xmonad, awesome etc uses, is there any who is as simple to configure as for example openbox?

Procyon · 2008-12-05 19:29:16

Ratpoison is really simple.

Roberth · 2008-12-05 19:35:27

Ratpoison is just like evilwm, to simple.

mentallaxative · 2008-12-05 19:40:22

Is that "too simple"? Ratpoison can do a lot of things, trust me.

Roberth · 2008-12-05 19:44:04

mentallaxative wrote:

Is that "too simple"? Ratpoison can do a lot of things, trust me.

Anyway it's still complicated, as I mentioned, I need simple configuration not a simple window manager.

heleos · 2008-12-05 20:06:57

How about a list of what you want in a tiling window manager, instead of shooting down the idea of ratpoison because its 'too simple'?

mentallaxative · 2008-12-05 20:11:31

Roberth wrote:

Anyway it's still complicated, as I mentioned, I need simple configuration not a simple window manager.

You said it's too simple, and now you're saying it's still complicated? I don't quite follow you. Ratpoison is easy to configure since .ratpoisonrc is not written in any programming language you need to know in order to configure it. I have a feeling you won't really like anyone's recommendation, so I suggest you install everything that looks remotely simple to try it out yourself.

string · 2008-12-05 20:31:52

I've had no trouble writing an Xmonad configuration file -- from scratch -- without actually knowing Haskell. Looking at examples and understanding what they do (making a small modification here and there to see how it affects things in order to gain a better understanding in some places helps). If you're comfortable with C, go for DWM. I remember writing an OpenBox configuration file from scratch -- their documentation is awesome, I'll give them that -- but can't say it was easier than my Xmonad experience.

Windowlicker · 2008-12-05 20:35:15

dwm

phrakture · 2008-12-05 21:11:20

mentallaxative wrote:

Roberth wrote:
Anyway it's still complicated, as I mentioned, I need simple configuration not a simple window manager.
You said it's too simple, and now you're saying it's still complicated? I don't quite follow you. Ratpoison is easy to configure since .ratpoisonrc is not written in any programming language you need to know in order to configure it. I have a feeling you won't really like anyone's recommendation, so I suggest you install everything that looks remotely simple to try it out yourself.

Haha. I was going to say something similar. Openbox is configured in XML, isn't it? That's not exactly "simple" to me. But, hey, to each his own. Perhaps you might like 'awesome', which I think uses lua?

Roberth · 2008-12-05 21:24:40

Okay to be honest ratpoison doesn't look so bad after all. Can anyone give me an example of the configuration syntax?

Procyon · 2008-12-05 21:35:47

Roberth wrote:

Okay to be honest ratpoison doesn't look so bad after all. Can anyone give me an example of the configuration syntax?

Sure, here is my rc. I don't use frames and groups though

escape C-grave

definekey top KP_Left prev
definekey top KP_Right next
definekey top KP_Subtract delete
definekey top KP_Up windows
definekey top KP_Insert colon
definekey top KP_Delete redisplay
definekey top Print nextscreen

set border 0
rudeness 12
startup_message off

#bar appearance
msgwait 0
set winname class
set barborder 0
set font 9x15
set inputwidth 500
set bgcolor black
set fgcolor #7070ff
set bargravity se
set winliststyle row
set winfmt %t

Roberth · 2008-12-05 23:13:03

Is there any way to remove the borders for certain appliacations?

Ranguvar · 2008-12-05 23:16:12

Do note that ratpoison is (IIRC) no longer maintained, it has become Stumpwm.

dwm also has a simple configuration, and some of its forks (dwm-gtx, echinus, etc.).

elmer_42 · 2008-12-05 23:25:32

wmii has very easy configuration, and dwm isn't that much harder to configure. Both are great WMs.

Nikitka · 2008-12-06 07:30:24

Echinus is a tiling window manager in spirit of dwm with a simple configuration. Echinus is configured via one config file in Xresources format.

iphitus · 2008-12-06 07:54:28

Ranguvar wrote:

Do note that ratpoison is (IIRC) no longer maintained, it has become Stumpwm.
dwm also has a simple configuration, and some of its forks (dwm-gtx, echinus, etc.).

lol stumpwm

From: http://www.nongnu.org/stumpwm/screenshot.html

These screenshots are specifically designed to trigger a feverish commitment to stumpwm. If you have a heart condition or are easily whipped into psychotic frenzies please consult your doctor before viewing these pictures.

u_no_hu · 2008-12-06 07:56:52

I would also recommend wmii . It works pretty well with the default configuration wmiirc. And wmiirc is pretty easy to understand and reconfigure.

Last edited by u_no_hu (2008-12-06 07:57:08)

dolby · 2008-12-06 07:58:51

IMO the simplest config have ratpoison and xmonad.
dwm used to be much simpler but i guess its pretty straightfoward as well.
Configs can get complicated as you start adding stuff.

Last edited by dolby (2008-12-06 07:59:06)

string · 2008-12-06 08:32:04

OFFTOPIC ALERT

iphitus wrote:

From: http://www.nongnu.org/stumpwm/screenshot.html

What kind of laptops are those shown in: http://www.nongnu.org/stumpwm/exciting.jpg ? I'm guessing the black one is an EeePC, what about the white one?

Roberth · 2008-12-06 16:54:47

Echinus doesn't work for me since it has no xinerama support:(

phrakture · 2008-12-07 00:56:03

Ranguvar wrote:

Do note that ratpoison is (IIRC) no longer maintained, it has become Stumpwm.

That's actually not true. It's no longer *actively developed* because the lead developer has moved on to stumpwm, but he still *maintains* ratpoison.

Ranguvar · 2008-12-07 01:38:48

Then I would recommend dwm-gtx. Ridiculously simple (note, simple, not easy) and multihead support.

Thanks for the NFO, phrakture

vogt · 2008-12-11 20:07:35

Roberth wrote:

...but I don't the configurations syntaxes that xmonad...

But that logo is still good?

Maybe this could make it easy enough:
http://braincrater.wordpress.com/2008/0 … -released/

In any case, configuration is something that shouldn't have to happen very often at all (maybe only once), so whatever pain you endure in piecing together bits of code from other configurations and the documentation could be worth it in the long run.

Roberth · 2008-12-11 22:41:15

xmonad-light seem to be the exact thing i want, it just need to mature more!

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