Catalyst Drivers Destroyed Video - Deps Won't Uninstall

userlander · 2008-12-07 15:29:36

This is what I get now when trying to watch any video (this was after starting mythtv):

My entire screen turns to artifact. I have to kill X and restart it.

In the attempt to fix the laggy video, I installed the catalyst package yesterday. It installed a bunch of other packages including catalyst-utils. That didn't fix the lag problem and they started locking up my computer, so I tried to remove them with pacman -Rc catalyst. That only removed catalyst, though. I had to also remove catalyst-utils manually (even though it was installed automatically as a dependency), and the other packages apparently are still there causing problems. I can't remember what they were, and reinstalling catalyst doesn't tell me b/c apparently now they're already there.

Why doesn't pacman remove all packages it installs when you do -Rc? The man page says:

-c, --cascade
Remove all target packages, as well as all packages that depend on
one or more target packages. This operation is recursive, and must
be used with care since it can remove many potentially needed
packages.

Now I have these other packages I guess screwing things up, and I can't find them. I guess this means all kinds of other orphan packages are on my system, too. I did pacman -Qt to try to find them, but it returns tons of packages that are clearly needed. Can anyone help with this?

Last edited by userlander (2008-12-07 15:30:27)

userlander · 2008-12-07 15:56:24

I downgraded to the old xorg, and video was okay, but mythtv caused the entire screen to crash and go blank just from launching it. I launched it from a terminal, but the screen went blank too fast to read the error. When I killed X to the terminal, I couldn't make sense of the errors, possibly something to do with with libgl (I don't know how to save that output when it's above the prompt).

I reinstalled latest xorg, removed and reinstalled libgl, but I still get the same problem, so now I don't know. I'm getting these errors and warnings in the log:

$ cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep EE
Current Operating System: Linux homer 2.6.27-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Fri Nov 28 10:56:24 UTC 2008 i686
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
(EE) RADEON(0): [agp] AGP failed to initialize. Disabling the DRI.
(EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed
(EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed
(EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed
$ cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep WW
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(WW) Open ACPI failed (/var/run/acpid.socket) (No such file or directory)
(WW) RADEON(0): [agp] AGP not available
(WW) RADEON(0): Direct rendering disabled

I don't know why it says DR is disabled, in glxinfo, it says it's on. Can anyone assist me, I'm ready to dump arch altogether as it can't even mount my NFS shares at boot.

 $ glxinfo 
name of display: :0.0
display: :0  screen: 0
direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.2
server glx extensions:
    GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, 
    GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap, GLX_OML_swap_method, 
    GLX_SGI_make_current_read, GLX_SGIS_multisample, GLX_SGIX_hyperpipe, 
    GLX_SGIX_swap_barrier, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig, GLX_MESA_copy_sub_buffer
client glx vendor string: SGI
client glx version string: 1.4
client glx extensions:
    GLX_ARB_get_proc_address, GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_import_context, 
    GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_MESA_allocate_memory, 
    GLX_MESA_copy_sub_buffer, GLX_MESA_swap_control, 
    GLX_MESA_swap_frame_usage, GLX_OML_swap_method, GLX_OML_sync_control, 
    GLX_SGI_make_current_read, GLX_SGI_swap_control, GLX_SGI_video_sync, 
    GLX_SGIS_multisample, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig, GLX_SGIX_pbuffer, 
    GLX_SGIX_visual_select_group, GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap
GLX version: 1.2
GLX extensions:
    GLX_ARB_get_proc_address, GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_import_context, 
    GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_OML_swap_method, 
    GLX_SGIS_multisample, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig
OpenGL vendor string: Mesa Project
OpenGL renderer string: Software Rasterizer
OpenGL version string: 2.1 Mesa 7.2
OpenGL shading language version string: 1.10
OpenGL extensions:
    GL_ARB_depth_texture, GL_ARB_draw_buffers, GL_ARB_fragment_program, 
    GL_ARB_fragment_program_shadow, GL_ARB_fragment_shader, 
    GL_ARB_half_float_pixel, GL_ARB_imaging, GL_ARB_multisample, 
    GL_ARB_multitexture, GL_ARB_occlusion_query, GL_ARB_pixel_buffer_object, 
    GL_ARB_point_parameters, GL_ARB_point_sprite, GL_ARB_shader_objects, 
    GL_ARB_shading_language_100, GL_ARB_shadow, GL_ARB_shadow_ambient, 
    GL_ARB_texture_border_clamp, GL_ARB_texture_compression, 
    GL_ARB_texture_cube_map, GL_ARB_texture_env_add, 
    GL_ARB_texture_env_combine, GL_ARB_texture_env_crossbar, 
    GL_ARB_texture_env_dot3, GL_ARB_texture_mirrored_repeat, 
    GL_ARB_texture_non_power_of_two, GL_ARB_texture_rectangle, 
    GL_ARB_transpose_matrix, GL_ARB_vertex_buffer_object, 
    GL_ARB_vertex_program, GL_ARB_vertex_shader, GL_ARB_window_pos, 
    GL_EXT_abgr, GL_EXT_bgra, GL_EXT_blend_color, 
    GL_EXT_blend_equation_separate, GL_EXT_blend_func_separate, 
    GL_EXT_blend_logic_op, GL_EXT_blend_minmax, GL_EXT_blend_subtract, 
    GL_EXT_clip_volume_hint, GL_EXT_compiled_vertex_array, GL_EXT_convolution, 
    GL_EXT_copy_texture, GL_EXT_depth_bounds_test, GL_EXT_draw_range_elements, 
    GL_EXT_framebuffer_object, GL_EXT_framebuffer_blit, GL_EXT_fog_coord, 
    GL_EXT_gpu_program_parameters, GL_EXT_histogram, GL_EXT_multi_draw_arrays, 
    GL_EXT_packed_depth_stencil, GL_EXT_packed_pixels, 
    GL_EXT_paletted_texture, GL_EXT_pixel_buffer_object, 
    GL_EXT_point_parameters, GL_EXT_polygon_offset, GL_EXT_rescale_normal, 
    GL_EXT_secondary_color, GL_EXT_separate_specular_color, 
    GL_EXT_shadow_funcs, GL_EXT_shared_texture_palette, GL_EXT_stencil_wrap, 
    GL_EXT_subtexture, GL_EXT_texture, GL_EXT_texture3D, 
    GL_EXT_texture_edge_clamp, GL_EXT_texture_env_add, 
    GL_EXT_texture_env_combine, GL_EXT_texture_env_dot3, 
    GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias, GL_EXT_texture_mirror_clamp, 
    GL_EXT_texture_object, GL_EXT_texture_rectangle, GL_EXT_texture_sRGB, 
    GL_EXT_vertex_array, GL_APPLE_packed_pixels, GL_APPLE_vertex_array_object, 
    GL_ATI_blend_equation_separate, GL_ATI_texture_env_combine3, 
    GL_ATI_texture_mirror_once, GL_ATI_fragment_shader, 
    GL_ATI_separate_stencil, GL_IBM_multimode_draw_arrays, 
    GL_IBM_rasterpos_clip, GL_IBM_texture_mirrored_repeat, 
    GL_INGR_blend_func_separate, GL_MESA_pack_invert, GL_MESA_program_debug, 
    GL_MESA_resize_buffers, GL_MESA_texture_array, GL_MESA_ycbcr_texture, 
    GL_MESA_window_pos, GL_NV_blend_square, GL_NV_fragment_program, 
    GL_NV_light_max_exponent, GL_NV_point_sprite, GL_NV_texture_rectangle, 
    GL_NV_texgen_reflection, GL_NV_vertex_program, GL_NV_vertex_program1_1, 
    GL_OES_read_format, GL_SGI_color_matrix, GL_SGI_color_table, 
    GL_SGI_texture_color_table, GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap, 
    GL_SGIS_texture_border_clamp, GL_SGIS_texture_edge_clamp, 
    GL_SGIS_texture_lod, GL_SGIX_depth_texture, GL_SGIX_shadow, 
    GL_SGIX_shadow_ambient, GL_SUN_multi_draw_arrays

3 GLX Visuals
   visual  x  bf lv rg d st colorbuffer ax dp st accumbuffer  ms  cav
 id dep cl sp sz l  ci b ro  r  g  b  a bf th cl  r  g  b  a ns b eat
----------------------------------------------------------------------
0x21 24 tc  0 32  0 r  y  .  8  8  8  8  0 24  8  0  0  0  0  0 0 None
0x22 24 dc  0 32  0 r  y  .  8  8  8  8  0 24  8  0  0  0  0  0 0 None
0x74 32 tc  0 32  0 r  .  .  8  8  8  8  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0 0 None

32 GLXFBConfigs:
   visual  x  bf lv rg d st colorbuffer ax dp st accumbuffer  ms  cav
 id dep cl sp sz l  ci b ro  r  g  b  a bf th cl  r  g  b  a ns b eat
----------------------------------------------------------------------
0x75  0 tc  0 32  0 r  .  .  8  8  8  8  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0 0 None
0x76  0 tc  0 32  0 r  .  .  8  8  8  8  0  0  0 16 16 16 16  0 0 Slow
0x77  0 tc  0 32  0 r  y  .  8  8  8  8  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0 0 None
0x78  0 tc  0 32  0 r  y  .  8  8  8  8  0  0  0 16 16 16 16  0 0 Slow
0x79  0 tc  0 32  0 r  .  .  8  8  8  8  0  0  8  0  0  0  0  0 0 None
0x7a  0 tc  0 32  0 r  .  .  8  8  8  8  0  0  8 16 16 16 16  0 0 Slow
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userlander · 2008-12-07 16:02:37

sh!t -now trying the catalyst drivers again I'm getting this:

# modprobe fglrx
FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.27-ARCH/video/fglrx.ko): Operation not permitted

What the h-ll is going on here??!?!?!?

mentallaxative · 2008-12-07 16:04:06

userlander wrote:

Why doesn't pacman remove all packages it installs when you do -Rc? The man page says:

I think you want 'pacman -Rs'.

userlander · 2008-12-07 16:38:15

I tried that, too. It's a total mess. When you install catalyst, it says it needs to install a bunch of other packages, including catalyst-utils and netkit-bsd-finger, of all things. Why catalyst would need finger is beyond me, unless this is now some linux spyware or something.

Then when you try to remove it, it only removes catalyst, leaving all the other packages it installed along with it:

 # pacman -Rc catalyst
checking dependencies...

Remove (1): catalyst-8.11-1  

Total Removed Size:   2.14 MB

Do you want to remove these packages? [Y/n] n

# pacman -Rs catalyst
checking dependencies...

Remove (1): catalyst-8.11-1  

Total Removed Size:   2.14 MB

Do you want to remove these packages? [Y/n] n

So why is it now leaving catalyst-utils and finger?

Then if you do pacman -Rs catalyst-utils, it won't do it because it says there are packages that need libgl. Okay, that makes some sense at least:

# pacman -Rs catalyst-utils
checking dependencies...
error: failed to prepare transaction (could not satisfy dependencies)
:: capseo: requires libgl
:: catalyst: requires catalyst-utils>=8.11
:: libquicktime: requires libgl
:: mesa: requires libgl
:: mplayer: requires libgl
:: xine-lib: requires libgl
:: xmms: requires libgl
:: xorg-server: requires libgl

So then try to install libgl and it says it conflicts with catalyst-utils, do you want to remove catalyst-utils:

# pacman -S libgl
resolving dependencies...
looking for inter-conflicts...
:: libgl conflicts with catalyst-utils. Remove catalyst-utils? [Y/n] y

Remove (1): catalyst-utils-8.11-1  

Total Removed Size:   58.56 MB

Targets (1): libgl-7.2-1  

Total Download Size:    0.00 MB
Total Installed Size:   2.75 MB

Proceed with installation? [Y/n] 
checking package integrity...
(1/1) checking for file conflicts                   [#############################] 100%
(1/1) installing libgl                              [#############################] 100%

That's great, how helpful. Until -- wait a minute:

 # pacman -Qt |grep finger
netkit-bsd-finger 0.17-3

So why is that still on my system? And what was the other package(s) that were installed by catalyst that are no longer needed that are still on my system -- do you know? I don't.

userlander · 2008-12-07 16:46:35

I was able to save some output from trying to start mythtv tv mode. I don't really see any errors, unless that USleep timing thing or the OpenGLSync lines are errors:

2008-12-07 11:43:16.433 Loading from: /usr/share/mythtv/themes/MythCenter/base.xml
2008-12-07 11:43:16.521 Loading from: /usr/share/mythtv/themes/default/base.xml
2008-12-07 11:43:16.569 Registering Internal as a media playback plugin.
2008-12-07 11:43:43.522 Connecting to backend server: 192.168.0.123:xxxx (try 1 of 5)
2008-12-07 11:43:43.523 Using protocol version 40
2008-12-07 11:43:43.530 TV: Attempting to change from None to WatchingLiveTV
2008-12-07 11:43:43.531 Using protocol version 40
2008-12-07 11:43:45.555 DPMS Deactivated 
2008-12-07 11:43:46.435 AFD: Opened codec 0x9c10710, id(MPEG2VIDEO) type(Video)
2008-12-07 11:43:46.435 AFD: codec MP2 has 2 channels
2008-12-07 11:43:46.436 AFD: Opened codec 0x9c74920, id(MP2) type(Audio)
2008-12-07 11:43:46.707 Opening audio device '/dev/dsp'. ch 2(2) sr 48000
2008-12-07 11:43:46.707 Opening OSS audio device '/dev/dsp'.
2008-12-07 11:43:46.754 VideoOutputXv: XVideo Adaptor Name: 'ATI Radeon Video Overlay'
2008-12-07 11:43:46.831 OSD Theme Dimensions W: 640 H: 480
2008-12-07 11:43:47.507 TV: Changing from None to WatchingLiveTV
2008-12-07 11:43:47.511 New DB connection, total: 3
2008-12-07 11:43:47.515 Using realtime priority.
2008-12-07 11:43:47.516 OpenGLVideoSync()
2008-12-07 11:43:47.546 ~OpenGLVideoSync() -- begin
2008-12-07 11:43:47.547 ~OpenGLVideoSync() -- middle
2008-12-07 11:43:47.547 ~OpenGLVideoSync() -- end
2008-12-07 11:43:47.548 Video timing method: USleep with busy wait
2008-12-07 11:43:47.550 Connected to database 'mythconverg' at host: 192.168.0.123

Last edited by userlander (2008-12-07 16:47:20)

Gauvenator · 2008-12-07 16:50:16

pacman -Rd catalyst-utils
pacman -Rd netkit-bsd-finger

the d option will remove a package regardless of deps

userlander · 2008-12-07 17:14:57

Gauvenator wrote:

pacman -Rd catalyst-utils
pacman -Rd netkit-bsd-finger
the d option will remove a package regardless of deps

That's great, but I'm not really sure how that tells me what else catalyst installed that apparently is still on my system screwing things up. But thanks anyway.

The main problem is Mythtv video which is still not working. Does anyone have any clues. I've noticed around here that people make fun of Ubuntu, but on their forums I found a kernel problem with MTRR and ATI cards, and when I ran cat /proc/mtrr I got a value in reg01 that doesn't look right:

$ cat /proc/mtrr 
reg00: base=0x00000000 (   0MB), size=1024MB: write-back, count=1
reg01: base=0x3ff00000 (1023MB), size=   1MB: uncachable, count=1
reg02: base=0xf0000000 (3840MB), size= 128MB: write-combining, count=1

So I am just guessing because I don't know anything about this yet, but I would guess that 1MB and uncachable are not good to have and could account for the choppy flash video that no one here seems to have any answer to, except "works fine for me!" or "I get that too, but I don't watch youtube so I don't care." And that still doesn't fix the mythtv video problem.

finferflu · 2008-12-07 17:22:08

userlander wrote:

That's great, but I'm not really sure how that tells me what else catalyst installed that apparently is still on my system screwing things up. But thanks anyway.

If you want to know what files a package installs, you will have to run pacman -Ql, in your case:

pacman -Ql catalyst

This only works with installed packages, so it might be worth reinstalling catalyst just to find out...

userlander · 2008-12-07 17:34:48

finferflu wrote:

userlander wrote:
That's great, but I'm not really sure how that tells me what else catalyst installed that apparently is still on my system screwing things up. But thanks anyway.
If you want to know what files a package installs, you will have to run pacman -Ql, in your case:
pacman -Ql catalyst
This only works with installed packages, so it might be worth reinstalling catalyst just to find out...

No, that only shows the driver.

# pacman -Ql catalyst
catalyst /lib/
catalyst /lib/modules/
catalyst /lib/modules/2.6.27-ARCH/
catalyst /lib/modules/2.6.27-ARCH/video/
catalyst /lib/modules/2.6.27-ARCH/video/fglrx.ko
catalyst /usr/
catalyst /usr/share/
catalyst /usr/share/licenses/
catalyst /usr/share/licenses/catalyst/
catalyst /usr/share/licenses/catalyst/ATI_LICENSE.TXT

userlander · 2008-12-07 17:37:44

mentallaxative wrote:

userlander wrote:
Why doesn't pacman remove all packages it installs when you do -Rc? The man page says:
I think you want 'pacman -Rs'.

I think I want mythtv to work again. I rely on that heavily. Can we get back on topic and forget about the pacman issue? The point of that is that catalyst might have installed some packages on the system that are still there screwing things up and I can't find them now. Maybe it only installed the three, I don't really know, but I seem to remember it installing at least four. I just want mythtv to work again, I don't really care about pacman, thanks.

userlander · 2008-12-07 17:44:44

To recap:

1) why does xorg log say "agp unavailable" and Direct Rendering is disabled, but glxinfo says Direct Rendering is on?

2) how can I find out exactly what packages catalyst installed along with catalyst, catalyst-utils, and netkit-bsd-finger that might be conflicting with xf86-video-ati drivers?

3) what else could possibly be causing X to get corrupted when starting TV streaming in mythtv (saved video works)?

4) does MTRR 1MB: uncachable indicate some memory problem?

5) how come modprobe fglrx says "FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.27-ARCH/video/fglrx.ko): Operation not permitted"?

mentallaxative · 2008-12-07 18:04:52

userlander wrote:

5) how come modprobe fglrx says "FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.27-ARCH/video/fglrx.ko): Operation not permitted"?

It needs root permission. Try sudo modprobe fglrx.

userlander · 2008-12-07 18:12:29

mentallaxative wrote:

userlander wrote:
5) how come modprobe fglrx says "FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.27-ARCH/video/fglrx.ko): Operation not permitted"?
It needs root permission. Try sudo modprobe fglrx.

No, I don't use sudo. This is a one-user system, there is no need for sudo. I ran the command as root, as I always have run modprobe for the past 5 years using linux, thanks anyway.

This problem is clearly a GL problem. I downgraded to the previous xorg again, and even running glxinfo in a terminal immediately crashed X back to the console faster than if I had done ctrl+alt+backspace.

I don't know what catalyst did in regard to OpenGL, but it screwed something up, and apparently it's still there on my system screwing it up. I've done all I know to do in removing libgl and reinstalling it with the current xf86-video driver packages. I've removed mesa and reinstalled that, too. I am still getting this conflict in the xorg logs saying DRI is not started and glxinfo saying it is. Something is clearly in conflict somewhere, and please just don't tell me I'm going to have to reinstall the entire system again. I've already wasted this entire morning when I had other things to do today, and now I can't really spend the rest of the day reinstalled arch linux. There has to be some way to fix this from what installing catalyst did.

userlander · 2008-12-07 23:22:25

Had to reinstall, what a royal PITA. No xorg.conf file, mythtv works, flash video still choppy. Not really acceptable considering it runs perfectly on the same hardware with PCLinuxOS. I tried modding the file to use with arch, but it's from an earlier version of X and it causes myth to segfault.

Arch is fast becoming a turd. :-o

jotapesan · 2008-12-08 02:09:28

have you tried to disable the hardware aceleration in flash? maybe it works!

userlander · 2008-12-08 02:48:48

jotapesan wrote:

have you tried to disable the hardware aceleration in flash? maybe it works!

yep, makes it worse. but thanks anyway.

CursedMonkey · 2008-12-08 03:25:55

If you look at the pacman log file at "/var/log/pacman.log" you can see what else was installed at the same time you installed catalyst.

Sorry, I completely missed the part where you said you had to reinstall.

Last edited by CursedMonkey (2008-12-08 03:30:41)

mentallaxative · 2008-12-08 03:29:25

CursedMonkey wrote:

If you look at the pacman log file at "/var/log/pacman.log" you can see what else was installed at the same time you installed catalyst.

He's not concerned with the packages per se, but with the files within them that are conflicting with each other. The pacman log will not tell you that.

Userlander: I suggest filing a bug report about this.

byte · 2008-12-08 06:58:53

userlander wrote:

To recap:
1) why does xorg log say "agp unavailable" and Direct Rendering is disabled, but glxinfo says Direct Rendering is on?
2) how can I find out exactly what packages catalyst installed along with catalyst, catalyst-utils, and netkit-bsd-finger that might be conflicting with xf86-video-ati drivers?
3) what else could possibly be causing X to get corrupted when starting TV streaming in mythtv (saved video works)?
4) does MTRR 1MB: uncachable indicate some memory problem?
5) how come modprobe fglrx says "FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.27-ARCH/video/fglrx.ko): Operation not permitted"?

1) Direct rendering with the Software Rasterizer is exactly that, "software".
2) /var/log/pacman.log? You have to uninstall xf86-video-ati because it depends on libgl, which is in turn provided (and thus conflicts) by catalyst-utils.
3) No idea. Memory issues?
4) I doubt it.
5) Logs! dmesg and complete /var/log/Xorg.0.log.

Gullible Jones · 2008-12-08 17:13:30

On the subject of Catalyst being spyware - this is interesting:

http://www.neuber.com/taskmanager/process/cli.exe.html

It may indeed be nefarious.

userlander · 2008-12-08 20:36:17

I am strongly suspicious of kernel or open source radeon bugs. I am getting this in dmesg:

X:19662 conflicting memory types d0000000-d8000000 write-combining<->uncached-minus
reserve_memtype failed 0xd0000000-0xd8000000, track write-combining, req write-combining
X:19662 conflicting memory types d0000000-d8000000 write-combining<->uncached-minus
reserve_memtype failed 0xd0000000-0xd8000000, track write-combining, req write-combining
X:19666 freeing invalid memtype d0000000-d8000000
[drm] Num pipes: 1
X:19662 freeing invalid memtype d0000000-d8000000
mtrr: no MTRR for d0000000,8000000 found
agpgart-amd64 0000:00:00.0: AGP 3.0 bridge
agpgart-amd64 0000:00:00.0: putting AGP V3 device into 8x mode
pci 0000:01:00.0: putting AGP V3 device into 8x mode
[drm] Setting GART location based on new memory map
[drm] Loading R300 Microcode
[drm] Num pipes: 1
[drm] writeback test succeeded in 1 usecs
X:19923 conflicting memory types d0000000-d8000000 write-combining<->uncached-minus
reserve_memtype failed 0xd0000000-0xd8000000, track write-combining, req write-combining
X:19923 conflicting memory types d0000000-d8000000 write-combining<->uncached-minus
reserve_memtype failed 0xd0000000-0xd8000000, track write-combining, req write-combining
X:19927 freeing invalid memtype d0000000-d8000000

Unless possibly the card is bad, but that wouldn't explain the same laggy behavior on my thinkpad (also with ATI).

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mcover · 2008-12-15 20:08:33

Gullible Jones wrote:

On the subject of Catalyst being spyware - this is interesting:
http://www.neuber.com/taskmanager/process/cli.exe.html
It may indeed be nefarious.

Spyware?! I don't think so.

finger is only in there to get the username of the a person logged on to a certain X terminal which is needed in ati-powermode.sh!

~$ pacman -Ql catalyst-utils | awk '{print $2}' | xargs grep -m 1 'finger'
/etc/acpi/ati-powermode.sh:        user=`finger| grep -m1 ":$displaynum " | awk '{print $1}'`

Btw: I use catalyst and its working great for me (after some hassling with stupid memory problems, which I solved by taking out a memory module - my laptop manufacturer apparently didn't care about equal-sized ram modules (2+1gb) which simply had disaster written all over it).

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