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#1 2008-12-15 20:25:46

Whiteline
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Compiz fusion plugins won't activate.

I've installed compiz-fusions with pacman as per the wiki instructions, but when i try to activate any of the plugins besides the default set with ccsm, it fails to do so (the checkbox simply unchecks itself ~1 second after clicking it.) There are no error messages dumped to the terminal, and i can't find anything on this via google or the arch wiki/forums.

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#2 2008-12-16 01:27:15

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Re: Compiz fusion plugins won't activate.

Try installing the compiz-fusion icon and then using that to activate compiz-fusion.

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#3 2008-12-17 16:25:01

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Re: Compiz fusion plugins won't activate.

Doesn't help. Now i get an error message from ccsm though: "couldn't load plugin: <pluginname". It's not a version mismatch either, both compiz-core, libcompizconfig and the plugins are all at version 0.7.8-1.

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#4 2008-12-17 16:55:43

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Re: Compiz fusion plugins won't activate.

What video card and driver are you using?

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#5 2008-12-17 17:04:32

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Re: Compiz fusion plugins won't activate.

A GeForce Go 6600 with the latest 'nvidia' driver from the arch repo (NVidias binary blob driver.)
Edit: After going through each of the plugins and seeing which ones where affected by this problem, Iv'e narrowed it down to the following: Enhanced Zoom Desktop, Expo, Animation, Animation Addons, Blur Windows.

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#6 2008-12-17 18:42:58

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Re: Compiz fusion plugins won't activate.

I'm Geforce also.... 7200
The drivers from Arch don't work well for my specific card, and very few drivers from other distro's do either so it's no slam at Arch or anyone else.
I use the driver from Nvidia and compiz-fusion works fine for me and doesn't seem to clash with Arch.
If compiz is a must have for you, you may consider removing the Arch version driver and using the one from Nvidia,,, at your own risk.
Read up on it first before removing it so you know what you're doing or you may end up with no gui.
Be warned though, installing from outside the repo on any distro and you'll find yourself out in the cold as it's discouraged for a very good reason.
Never tried it with Arch but I've cheated with other distro's and it worked...
Download the driver from Nvidia,,, remove the Arch driver [pacman -Rsu if I remember right but check first] install the Nvidia driver from Nvidia and reboot.
Nvidia has instructions to install at their site.

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#7 2008-12-18 21:21:16

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Re: Compiz fusion plugins won't activate.

I uninstalled the repo drivers and ran the latest Linux IA32 installation package from NVidia (ver. 177.82). The driver installed fine and runs just as nice as the repo one, but it doesn't fix the problem. It's not simply a card/driver issue, because i've ran compiz successfully without "missing plugins" under other linux dists.

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#8 2008-12-18 23:31:07

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Re: Compiz fusion plugins won't activate.

I'm running kdemod 3.5 and have zero probs.
I've run kde 4 in Arch with no probs as well.
Out of curiosity, what desktop are you running?
Dunno if you're aware of it, but just in case here's the link in the wiki.

http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Compiz-Fusion

May be able to troubleshoot using it and speed up a fix for you.
I'm not experienced enough to offer more help than I have, beyond stating the obvious and the obvious is there are some broken or missing packages.

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#9 2008-12-19 00:28:20

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Re: Compiz fusion plugins won't activate.

As I stated above, I've already researched the wiki and checked that all packages are installed and of matching versions.  As a desktop, i run compiz w/emerald or gtk-window-decorator and avant-window-manager + a few custom shellscripts to emulate basic gnome/kde functionality (automount, etc...). The choice of desktop shouldn't matter unless it included an alternate composition manager, in wich case compiz would simply refuse to run. This is an issue with compiz not being able to load the binary plugins listed above for some reason. If a plugin segfaulted or threw a library function dependency error, this would be ovbious because no sane person would code in a crash handler that handled such a situation both gracefully and silently. Therefore, the error must be in the interface between compiz and the plugins; however this makes no sense because there is no version mismatch. Following me?

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#10 2008-12-19 00:59:44

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Re: Compiz fusion plugins won't activate.

I'm following fine.
I have every available plugin installed from the repo.
Doubt that would make any difference on usability.
The only real difference I see on what is installed on our machines and the differences are I'm using kdemod and you:

a few custom shellscripts to emulate basic gnome/kde functionality

You've stated you've checked all the packages as well as the wiki.
You have a good driver for the nvidia card.
Compiz flat won't start unless 3d is activated.
I can't see your box and havn't a clue if 3d is running or not.
Can you check glxgears and see if it is?
btw, sorry if I'm repeating but I visit this forum, 3 others and run one of my own as well as life so I pop in and out a lot.

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#11 2008-12-19 02:16:56

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Re: Compiz fusion plugins won't activate.

Yes, 3D acceleration is working fine. I also reinstalled the compiz-fusion package group, and checked that the plugins are actually present in /usr/lib/compiz/, and they are. Still no luck. I appreciate the help, though.
I'm tempted to get compiz and all the plugins from CVS and see if i can get it working that way. Arch sticks to the $PATH standards, and the make scripts can clean up after themselves if necessary, so there shouldn't be any problems. The AUR version should be the same version as the one in the repos, right?

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#12 2008-12-19 03:04:42

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Re: Compiz fusion plugins won't activate.

They're the same.
I installed compiz withShaman but it shouldn'y make any diff whether you used pacman, shaman or yaourt.
It's coming down to the scripts you're using imho as that's the only real difference in our systems.
3-d is enabled and all the right packages are installed, that only leaves the desktop environment.

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#13 2008-12-19 03:36:08

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Re: Compiz fusion plugins won't activate.

Sure, but there's just no way that that could affect something so basic as the loading of libraries by a userspace program. tongue
They don't touch anything even remotely related to compiz.

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#14 2008-12-19 04:03:57

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Re: Compiz fusion plugins won't activate.

I had a similar problem in the past, and have been trying to remember what the issue was and what fixed it, but for the life of me, I can't remember.  However, it was with configurations with ccsm, and or gnome, and or fusion icon.  Not the installation or anything with the OS setup.  I do know some of the plugins and keybindings can conflict with each other, and am thinking that may be your issue.  And I know some of the conflicts don't report an error when they are setup.

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#15 2008-12-19 04:54:55

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Re: Compiz fusion plugins won't activate.

What's the permission on ~/.config/compiz?

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#16 2008-12-19 13:26:22

Whiteline
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Re: Compiz fusion plugins won't activate.

xaiviax: I've disabled all the plugins and activated the troublesome plugins one by one. Still no luck. This should rule out silent keymapping/plugin conflicts.

windtalker: The permissions are fine, and ccsm can save the config for the plugins, so it can't be a problem like that.

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#17 2008-12-19 16:07:47

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Re: Compiz fusion plugins won't activate.

Possibly, in ccsm go to profile and change the backend and/or profile.

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#18 2008-12-19 17:04:02

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Re: Compiz fusion plugins won't activate.

Try running "compiz" in a terminal as well as "dpkg -l | grep compiz" and see what the outputs say.

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#19 2009-01-26 15:23:14

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Re: Compiz fusion plugins won't activate.

Come on guys you must know whats going on, you are supposed to be linux experts.

Anyway I have the EXACTLY the same problem and I'm running openSUSE 11.1, I updated from 11.0 so it's not a clean install. Anyway, compiz wouldn't activate so I had to manually install the Nvidia graphics drivers by going into INIT 3 then running the '.sh' file etc. (I have a 7900GS if that helps).

The reason why these won't activate is that compiz can't seem to find the plugins, if you run compiz fusion from the command line (just run fusion-icon) as a normal user you can see the output of errors when you select the individual plugins, heres what get when I try to activate the some plugins:

 * Detected Session: kde           
 * Searching for installed applications...
 * NVIDIA on Xorg detected, exporting: __GL_YIELD=NOTHING
 * Using the GTK Interface                               
 * Starting Compiz                                       
 ... executing: compiz --replace --sm-disable --ignore-desktop-hints ccp --indirect-rendering                                                                 
compiz (video) - Warn: No 8 bit GLX pixmap format, disabling YV12 image format 
inotify_add_watch: No such file or directory                                   
^[[15~ * Launching Settings Manager                                            
Info: No sexy-python package found, don't worry it's optional.                 
compiz (core) - Error: Couldn't load plugin 'shift'                            
compiz (video) - Warn: No 8 bit GLX pixmap format, disabling YV12 image format 
inotify_add_watch: No such file or directory
inotify_add_watch: No such file or directory
inotify_add_watch: No such file or directory
compiz (core) - Error: Couldn't load plugin 'expo'
inotify_add_watch: No such file or directory
compiz (core) - Error: Couldn't load plugin 'expo'
compiz (core) - Error: Plugin 'core' has ABI version '20080828', expected ABI version '20081121'.

compiz (fadedesktop) - Error: InitObject failed
compiz (core) - Error: Couldn't activate plugin 'fadedesktop'

It seems there are different versions of the ABI (whatever that is) causing problems.

Last edited by rash.m2k (2009-01-26 15:23:59)

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#20 2009-01-29 18:08:00

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Re: Compiz fusion plugins won't activate.

I'VE FIXED IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Remove ALL the compiz related stuff more info here:

http://en.opensuse.org/Compiz_Troubleshooting

THEN re-install ALL the stuff using this openSUSE 1-click install.

FINALLY DO NOT UPDATE THE COMPIZ STUFF ANYMORE! And leave it as the version that the 1-click installer put it as!

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#21 2009-01-29 18:51:35

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Re: Compiz fusion plugins won't activate.

rash.m2k wrote:

I'VE FIXED IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Remove ALL the compiz related stuff more info here:

http://en.opensuse.org/Compiz_Troubleshooting

THEN re-install ALL the stuff using this openSUSE 1-click install.

FINALLY DO NOT UPDATE THE COMPIZ STUFF ANYMORE! And leave it as the version that the 1-click installer put it as!

I smell trouble ahead.

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#22 2009-02-24 03:30:04

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Re: Compiz fusion plugins won't activate.

Was there any resolution to this?
I'm having the same problem.


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#23 2009-02-24 06:45:28

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Re: Compiz fusion plugins won't activate.

seems like another thread addresses this issue, libcompizconfig needs updating too:
http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php? … 92#p504592

some mirrors have the updated version. 

[edit] of course, having done the update, as well as new kernel package and reboot, i find out half the plugins need updating too.   so we'll probably have to wait a few days for the rest of the packages to catch up.

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