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#1 2008-12-20 16:26:07

RaisedFist
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Suspend doesn't work anymore

What the *** is wrong with arch lately? After every update I find myself trying to figure out another issue. First was the sound, then video, then power management, then xorg (you know!), now again power management.

I have a Dell Vostro 1310 laptop. First time I installed arch on it, suspend/hibernate worked "out of the box", then after an update things started to not work, the only way I could suspend was using pm-suspend. After the last update (yesterday) this doesn't work at all. I don't understand what's going on. I don't want to go to ubuntu, even if I installed it on a different partition to see if things work. And sure they work as they should.... I'm really annoyed by this things sad

Please help

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#2 2008-12-20 17:01:26

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Re: Suspend doesn't work anymore

Why not post an error log? Or maybe describe what happens in more detail other than "doesn't work at all"?


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#3 2008-12-20 17:06:03

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Re: Suspend doesn't work anymore

you didn't post any information. you only complain.
from where didn't work? from gnome, kde etc?


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#4 2008-12-20 17:35:13

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Re: Suspend doesn't work anymore

Updates can break things (usually not due to arch mistakes, but beacuse upstream changes APIs, configuration files... and because in big projects such as the linux kernel and xorg there are occasional regressions). Ubuntu works because it does not lead you to upgrade components one by one, but preconfigure checked snapshots of the full os (including kernel, xorg etc.). If you prefer this system, archlinux (and any other rolling release distros) is not suitable to your preferences.
I can agree that in this period there are big changes and many novelties (but in the past there were much more serious breakages: do you remember when xfree was replaced by xorg? or when xorg bacame modular? or when hotplug was replaced by udev?) but to ask "what the *** is up with arch lately" seems to show a deep misunderstanding of what a linux distro is.

About suspension, about 1 1/2 years ago, the vast majority of laptops was unable to suspend/resume properly without complex hacks; nowadays most of them are able to do this flawlessly, so I wouldn't point to this area as an example of regression.

Last edited by patroclo7 (2008-12-20 17:36:25)


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#5 2008-12-20 22:08:26

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Re: Suspend doesn't work anymore

this in fact is the 3rd post about my problem... where can I get the logs exactly?

I'm using XFCE and I used to have gnome-power-manager taking care of suspend/resume. It worked great until approx 2 weeks ago. Then simply I didn't have the "Suspend" and "Hibernate" dropdown anymore. That was when I installed pm-utils and used pm-suspend to do the work... and today, after the kernel upgrade it doesn't work.

Sorry about the "nervous" post, usually i'm a calm person and try to find the solution, but this is getting me go mad.... sad

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#6 2008-12-20 22:20:18

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Re: Suspend doesn't work anymore

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#7 2008-12-20 22:52:32

wonder
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Re: Suspend doesn't work anymore

what version of hal do you use?


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#8 2008-12-20 23:32:36

RaisedFist
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Re: Suspend doesn't work anymore

thunderogg wrote:

i've tried everything people wrote in there and still no change...

@wonder:
testing/hal 0.5.11-7 [installed]


I'm out of any ideas  sad

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#9 2008-12-20 23:35:12

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Re: Suspend doesn't work anymore

i think that because hal for testing is compile with policykit crap. try hal from extra


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#10 2008-12-20 23:40:46

RaisedFist
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Re: Suspend doesn't work anymore

i just installed it. i had the hal from extra until 20 minutes ago when I read your answers. i really don't understand anything anymore.

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#11 2008-12-21 15:08:39

iggy
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Re: Suspend doesn't work anymore

just to note this: if you're using a nvidia card - suspend in 180.x is broken!


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#12 2008-12-24 12:36:46

danvari
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Re: Suspend doesn't work anymore

you mean that suspend wont work for nvidia users? i have got a nivida-card and have this problem too!

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#13 2008-12-24 17:52:54

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Re: Suspend doesn't work anymore

He means you have to roll back to the older versions.


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#14 2008-12-29 18:54:02

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Re: Suspend doesn't work anymore

Hi there. My pm-suspend started to do nothing just yesterday. Then I looked at /var/log/pm-suspend.log, and there were some mess with wicd. Not a real solution, but I simply uninstalled it with -Rs, because I don't really need it. (What does your log say?)

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#15 2008-12-29 18:56:48

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Re: Suspend doesn't work anymore

Yes this is a well-known issue. Basically if wicd is installed but not used the wicd hook fails, blocking the supension routine. Until it is fixed upstream, you can either uninstall wicd or use it (or remove the wicd hook).


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#16 2009-01-04 00:22:13

qstreb
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Re: Suspend doesn't work anymore

it could be its a similar trouble

I had to downgrade my kernel & laptop-mode-tools
see: http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=60495

Good luck

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