Vitrual box with 64 bit guest

Raccoon1400 · 2009-01-16 22:42:55

I have 64 bit arch installed.

A friend, claims to have run the 64 bit win7 beta on virtualbox from within 64 bit ubuntu.
however, when I attempt this on my machine, it doesn't work, saying it can handle 64 bit.

How can I get this to work. Using vbox 2.0.6, which I believe is the latest.

EDIT: checked the vbox site, downloading vbox 2.1.0
I guess there was an update and vbox didn't tell me.

Last edited by Raccoon1400 (2009-01-16 22:44:18)

Raccoon1400 · 2009-01-16 22:56:08

latest vbox no different

Thor · 2009-01-17 00:56:10

Actually, using vbox 2.1.0 (on debian, but that should not make any difference) I installed win7 beta without any problem. BUT you need hardware virtualization for 64 bit guess (AFAIK), at least on vbox.

Raccoon1400 · 2009-01-17 02:59:14

Thor wrote:

Actually, using vbox 2.1.0 (on debian, but that should not make any difference) I installed win7 beta without any problem. BUT you need hardware virtualization for 64 bit guess (AFAIK), at least on vbox.

So is there some package to install?

xaiviax · 2009-01-17 03:06:12

Raccoon1400 wrote:

Thor wrote:
Actually, using vbox 2.1.0 (on debian, but that should not make any difference) I installed win7 beta without any problem. BUT you need hardware virtualization for 64 bit guess (AFAIK), at least on vbox.
So is there some package to install?

Not that I know of, but you need to set the virtual machine settings to use the hardware virtualization (not set by default)

R00KIE · 2009-01-17 15:09:18

xaiviax wrote:

Raccoon1400 wrote:
Thor wrote:
Actually, using vbox 2.1.0 (on debian, but that should not make any difference) I installed win7 beta without any problem. BUT you need hardware virtualization for 64 bit guess (AFAIK), at least on vbox.
So is there some package to install?
Not that I know of, but you need to set the virtual machine settings to use the hardware virtualization (not set by default)

If you your cpu supports Intel's VT-x or AMD's AMD-V that is. If it does you need to enable it alright as it is not enabled by default.

wonder · 2009-01-17 15:13:22

virtualbox_bin from aur or use abs to compile virtualbox-ose and modules. note that only 2.1.0 can handle 64 bits guests

Raccoon1400 · 2009-01-17 15:40:32

wonder wrote:

virtualbox_bin from aur or use abs to compile virtualbox-ose and modules. note that only 2.1.0 can handle 64 bits guests

I installed the 2.1.0 bin file right from the vbox site.

Raccoon1400 · 2009-01-18 22:52:14

R00KIE wrote:

xaiviax wrote:
Raccoon1400 wrote:
So is there some package to install?
Not that I know of, but you need to set the virtual machine settings to use the hardware virtualization (not set by default)
If you your cpu supports Intel's VT-x or AMD's AMD-V that is. If it does you need to enable it alright as it is not enabled by default.

how would I enable that?

wonder · 2009-01-18 23:22:52

select guest machine, click settings, go to advanced tab from right.

xaiviax · 2009-01-18 23:25:00

Download this: http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualb … Manual.pdf

Look at pages 45-47

Your welcome.

Raccoon1400 · 2009-01-18 23:46:58

I enabled the I/0 acpi one, but the vt-x one is greyed out.
Still doesn't work
cpu is core 2 duo, archlinux is 64 bit

Alexdsan · 2009-01-19 00:58:26

Still doesn't work
cpu is core 2 duo, archlinux is 64 bit

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wonder · 2009-01-19 01:16:16

maybe isn't suppose to work. vt only works if bios is capable. take a look there and see if you can enable or search on google for your laptop model (if you have one) or for motherboard.

wantilles · 2009-01-19 08:29:42

Raccoon1400 wrote:

wonder wrote:
virtualbox_bin from aur or use abs to compile virtualbox-ose and modules. note that only 2.1.0 can handle 64 bits guests
I installed the 2.1.0 bin file right from the vbox site.

This is wrong.

You should have made a standard Arch package, and install this, through pacman.

Raccoon1400 · 2009-01-19 21:47:35

wantilles wrote:

Raccoon1400 wrote:
wonder wrote:
virtualbox_bin from aur or use abs to compile virtualbox-ose and modules. note that only 2.1.0 can handle 64 bits guests
I installed the 2.1.0 bin file right from the vbox site.
This is wrong.
You should have made a standard Arch package, and install this, through pacman.

Would that actually make a difference?

There is a bios update available. My bios version is A13, and the update is A17.
Would this help?

CursedMonkey · 2009-01-20 00:00:51

There should be a setting in your bios to enable hardware virtualization. When your computer starts up press F2 to access the settings.

By the version numbers I'm assuming that you have a Dell, in which case the setting should exist and you don't need to update.

Would that actually make a difference?

It makes it easier to manage files if they are installed using a package manager. In this case if you wanted to remove a program it is better to use pacman so that it can be uninstalled cleanly.

Raccoon1400 · 2009-01-20 00:07:21

CursedMonkey wrote:

There should be a setting in your bios to enable hardware virtualization. When your computer starts up press F2 to access the settings.
By the version numbers I'm assuming that you have a Dell, in which case the setting should exist and you don't need to update.
Would that actually make a difference?
It makes it easier to manage files if they are installed using a package manager. In this case if you wanted to remove a program it is better to use pacman so that it can be uninstalled cleanly.

Dell. Correct. Inspiron 6400, bios A13. Latest BIOS is A17.
I checked and don't see the setting.

Ranguvar · 2009-01-20 00:32:16

Some Core 2 Duos do not have VT-x. Following this, I looked up your CPU model. It is the T7200, right? (cat /proc/cpuinfo) If so, your CPU does _not_ support VT-x from what I can tell Googling. The only other possibility is that your BIOS is limiting your CPU - I read something about board manufacturers possibly disabling VT-x for who-knows-what reason. Looking through the VirtualBox manual, I discovered that 64-bit guest OSen are not possible, even on a 64-bit host, without hardware virtualization.

I would try Qemu and VMware. The former I know will be able to work - it's just a question of whether you can get KVM, the module that makes Qemu run at any decent speed by not doing full virtualization of the CPU, working. The latter I'm not sure about, and I don't have time right now to check.

Raccoon1400 · 2009-01-20 00:35:13

T5200

Which also appears not to support it
I see two action plans:
-continue with my current download of the 32 bit version
-get vmware

Last edited by Raccoon1400 (2009-01-20 00:48:39)

mandog · 2009-01-22 09:22:54

To use 64bt Linux/windows you need Vbox 2.1,0 or later from AUR its the bin version, I'm testing Windows 7 64bt right now. I think the ose version is in the French repro as well.

Last edited by mandog (2009-01-22 09:25:20)

msh · 2009-01-22 10:38:25

Raccoon1400 wrote:

-get vmware

Not an option. Read "Intel" section here. VT support is required for 64bit guests. T5200 does not have it - see here (Intel® Virtualization Technology).

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Vitrual box with 64 bit guest

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