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#1 2009-01-19 12:36:34

Some0ne
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X crashes (I think)

Hi, I have some problem with my arch, the thing is that it is freezing preatty often, and nothing works, ctrl + alt +F1 and ctrl alt backspace doesn't work, the only thing that is working is pushing the powerbutton and reboot.

The problem started after I came back after Christmas and did a pacman -Syu, didn't see any weird things in the output thou. I have read some other threads about people with problems similar to mine, and tried the most of the tips given to them, I have changed my driver to nv instead of nvidia for example. The crashes came in both fluxbox and KDE, and almost always when I'm scrolling webpages (in both firefox and opera), but the first crash was when I was minimizing a window. I have tried to read the logs after the error, but there isn't anything about firefox or opera after the crashes. But I don't really know what logs I should be looking in, and I need to reboot after the crashes, which make it hard to find. I tried to search after firefox and opera in the logs but didn't find anything.

Don't know what files that is needed to solve it, but I can upload them if you say what ones you need.
Computer specs are:
Amd athlon 64 X2 dual
3 GB ram
Nvidia geforce 7300 GS

Sorry about the lousy english.

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#2 2009-01-19 12:49:45

FaN_OnLy1
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From: Montpellier, France
Registered: 2008-09-22
Posts: 126

Re: X crashes (I think)

http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xor … otplugging ??

Last edited by FaN_OnLy1 (2009-01-19 12:50:18)

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#3 2009-01-19 13:19:15

Some0ne
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Re: X crashes (I think)

Don't think it is that, because I already added this to my xorg:

   
Section "ServerFlags"
     Option "AutoAddDevices" "False"
EndSection

And the error doesn't happen directly at boot, it happen randomly (but often when i use my browser).

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#4 2009-01-19 16:42:52

chillu
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Re: X crashes (I think)

Good chance it could be bad RAM. I had to throw two sticks just last month.
Try using a live cd and memtest-ing your RAM. (Mine failed in like a minute)

(Either that or I'm thinking its bad RAM because thats what I want to see big_smile)

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#5 2009-01-19 16:47:22

Some0ne
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Re: X crashes (I think)

chillu wrote:

Good chance it could be bad RAM. I had to throw two sticks just last month.
Try using a live cd and memtest-ing your RAM. (Mine failed in like a minute)

(Either that or I'm thinking its bad RAM because thats what I want to see big_smile)

I also thought it was bad RAM, but i dont have the problem in Windows, and the memtester i did during the night didn't say anything. The computer was up al night and seeding torrents, but when i started to surfing the web it crashed. sad

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#6 2009-01-19 18:24:08

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Re: X crashes (I think)

could you post output of dmesg and post your xorg.0.log?  t


Hofstadter's Law:
           It always takes longer than you expect, even when you take into account Hofstadter's Law.

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#7 2009-01-19 19:32:44

Some0ne
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Re: X crashes (I think)

Cyrusm wrote:

could you post output of dmesg and post your xorg.0.log?  t

Is dmesg really usefull after a reboot? smile

my xorg.0.log:

X.Org X Server 1.5.3
Release Date: 5 November 2008
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.27-ARCH i686 
Current Operating System: Linux bettan 2.6.28-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Tue Jan 6 10:26:22 UTC 2009 i686
Build Date: 17 December 2008  08:20:05PM
 
    Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
    to make sure that you have the latest version.
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
    (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
    (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Mon Jan 19 00:20:27 2009
(==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
(==) ServerLayout "X.org Configured"
(**) |-->Screen "Screen0" (0)
(**) |   |-->Monitor "Monitor0"
(**) |   |-->Device "Device0"
(**) |-->Input Device "Mouse0"
(**) |-->Input Device "Keyboard0"
(**) Option "Xinerama" "0"
(**) Option "AutoAddDevices" "False"
(**) Not automatically adding devices
(==) Automatically enabling devices
(==) Including the default font path /usr/share/fonts/misc,/usr/share/fonts/100dpi:unscaled,/usr/share/fonts/75dpi:unscaled,/usr/share/fonts/TTF,/usr/share/fonts/Type1.
(**) FontPath set to:
    /usr/share/fonts/misc,
    /usr/share/fonts/100dpi:unscaled,
    /usr/share/fonts/75dpi:unscaled,
    /usr/share/fonts/TTF,
    /usr/share/fonts/Type1,
    /usr/share/fonts/misc,
    /usr/share/fonts/100dpi:unscaled,
    /usr/share/fonts/75dpi:unscaled,
    /usr/share/fonts/TTF,
    /usr/share/fonts/Type1
(**) ModulePath set to "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
(**) Extension "Composite" is enabled
(WW) Open ACPI failed (/var/run/acpid.socket) (No such file or directory)
(II) No APM support in BIOS or kernel
(II) Loader magic: 0x81d5fe0
(II) Module ABI versions:
    X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4
    X.Org Video Driver: 4.1
    X.Org XInput driver : 2.1
    X.Org Server Extension : 1.1
    X.Org Font Renderer : 0.6
(II) Loader running on linux
(--) using VT number 7

(--) PCI:*(0@1:0:0) nVidia Corporation G71 [GeForce 7300 GS] rev 161, Mem @ 0xd0000000/0, 0xc0000000/0, 0xd1000000/0, BIOS @ 0x????????/131072
(II) System resource ranges:
    [0] -1    0    0xffffffff - 0xffffffff (0x1) MX[b]
    [1] -1    0    0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[b]
    [2] -1    0    0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[b]
    [3] -1    0    0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[b]
    [4] -1    0    0xffffffff - 0xffffffff (0x1) MX[b]
    [5] -1    0    0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[b]
    [6] -1    0    0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[b]
    [7] -1    0    0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[b]
    [8] -1    0    0xffffffff - 0xffffffff (0x1) MX[b]
    [9] -1    0    0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[b]
    [10] -1    0    0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[b]
    [11] -1    0    0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[b]
    [12] -1    0    0xffffffff - 0xffffffff (0x1) MX[b]
    [13] -1    0    0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[b]
    [14] -1    0    0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[b]
    [15] -1    0    0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[b]
    [16] -1    0    0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[b]
    [17] -1    0    0x00000000 - 0x00000000 (0x1) IX[b]
    [18] -1    0    0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[b]
    [19] -1    0    0x00000000 - 0x00000000 (0x1) IX[b]
    [20] -1    0    0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[b]
    [21] -1    0    0x00000000 - 0x00000000 (0x1) IX[b]
    [22] -1    0    0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[b]
    [23] -1    0    0x00000000 - 0x00000000 (0x1) IX[b]
(II) "extmod" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in the config file.
(II) "dbe" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in the config file.
(II) "glx" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in the config file.
(II) "freetype" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in the config file.
(II) "dri" will be loaded by default.
(II) LoadModule: "glx"

(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libglx.so
(II) Module glx: vendor="NVIDIA Corporation"
    compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.0
    Module class: X.Org Server Extension
(II) NVIDIA GLX Module  180.22  Tue Jan  6 09:58:42 PST 2009
(II) Loading extension GLX
(II) LoadModule: "xtrap"

(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libxtrap.so
(II) Module xtrap: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
    compiled for 1.5.3, module version = 1.0.0
    Module class: X.Org Server Extension
    ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 1.1
(II) Loading extension DEC-XTRAP
(II) LoadModule: "extmod"

(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libextmod.so
(II) Module extmod: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
    compiled for 1.5.3, module version = 1.0.0
    Module class: X.Org Server Extension
    ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 1.1
(II) Loading extension SHAPE
(II) Loading extension MIT-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD
(II) Loading extension BIG-REQUESTS
(II) Loading extension SYNC
(II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
(II) Loading extension XC-MISC
(II) Loading extension XFree86-VidModeExtension
(II) Loading extension XFree86-Misc
(II) Loading extension XFree86-DGA
(II) Loading extension DPMS
(II) Loading extension TOG-CUP
(II) Loading extension Extended-Visual-Information
(II) Loading extension XVideo
(II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation
(II) Loading extension X-Resource
(II) LoadModule: "dbe"

(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libdbe.so
(II) Module dbe: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
    compiled for 1.5.3, module version = 1.0.0
    Module class: X.Org Server Extension
    ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 1.1
(II) Loading extension DOUBLE-BUFFER
(II) LoadModule: "freetype"

(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/fonts//libfreetype.so
(II) Module freetype: vendor="X.Org Foundation & the After X-TT Project"
    compiled for 1.5.3, module version = 2.1.0
    Module class: X.Org Font Renderer
    ABI class: X.Org Font Renderer, version 0.6
(II) Loading font FreeType
(II) LoadModule: "dri"

(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libdri.so
(II) Module dri: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
    compiled for 1.5.3, module version = 1.0.0
    ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 1.1
(II) Loading extension XFree86-DRI
(II) LoadModule: "nvidia"

(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//nvidia_drv.so
(II) Module nvidia: vendor="NVIDIA Corporation"
    compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.0
    Module class: X.Org Video Driver
(II) LoadModule: "mouse"

(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input//mouse_drv.so
(II) Module mouse: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
    compiled for 1.4.2, module version = 1.3.0
    Module class: X.Org XInput Driver
    ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 2.0
(II) LoadModule: "kbd"

(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input//kbd_drv.so
(II) Module kbd: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
    compiled for 1.4.2, module version = 1.3.1
    Module class: X.Org XInput Driver
    ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 2.0
(II) NVIDIA dlloader X Driver  180.22  Tue Jan  6 09:35:46 PST 2009
(II) NVIDIA Unified Driver for all Supported NVIDIA GPUs
(II) Primary Device is: PCI 01@00:00:0
(II) Loading sub module "fb"
(II) LoadModule: "fb"

(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules//libfb.so
(II) Module fb: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
    compiled for 1.5.3, module version = 1.0.0
    ABI class: X.Org ANSI C Emulation, version 0.4
(II) Loading sub module "wfb"
(II) LoadModule: "wfb"

(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules//libwfb.so
(II) Module wfb: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
    compiled for 1.5.3, module version = 1.0.0
    ABI class: X.Org ANSI C Emulation, version 0.4
(II) Loading sub module "ramdac"
(II) LoadModule: "ramdac"
(II) Module "ramdac" already built-in
(II) resource ranges after probing:
    [0] -1    0    0xffffffff - 0xffffffff (0x1) MX[b]
    [1] -1    0    0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[b]
    [2] -1    0    0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[b]
    [3] -1    0    0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[b]
    [4] -1    0    0xffffffff - 0xffffffff (0x1) MX[b]
    [5] -1    0    0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[b]
    [6] -1    0    0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[b]
    [7] -1    0    0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[b]
    [8] -1    0    0xffffffff - 0xffffffff (0x1) MX[b]
    [9] -1    0    0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[b]
    [10] -1    0    0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[b]
    [11] -1    0    0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[b]
    [12] -1    0    0xffffffff - 0xffffffff (0x1) MX[b]
    [13] -1    0    0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[b]
    [14] -1    0    0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[b]
    [15] -1    0    0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[b]
    [16] -1    0    0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[b]
    [17] -1    0    0x00000000 - 0x00000000 (0x1) IX[b]
    [18] -1    0    0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[b]
    [19] -1    0    0x00000000 - 0x00000000 (0x1) IX[b]
    [20] -1    0    0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[b]
    [21] -1    0    0x00000000 - 0x00000000 (0x1) IX[b]
    [22] -1    0    0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[b]
    [23] -1    0    0x00000000 - 0x00000000 (0x1) IX[b]
(**) NVIDIA(0): Depth 24, (--) framebuffer bpp 32
(==) NVIDIA(0): RGB weight 888
(==) NVIDIA(0): Default visual is TrueColor
(==) NVIDIA(0): Using gamma correction (1.0, 1.0, 1.0)
(**) NVIDIA(0): Option "TwinView" "0"
(**) NVIDIA(0): Option "MetaModes" "CRT: 1400x1050_75 +0+0; CRT: 1400x1050 +0+0"
(**) NVIDIA(0): Option "TwinViewXineramaInfoOrder" "CRT-0"
(**) NVIDIA(0): Option "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True"
(**) NVIDIA(0): Enabling RENDER acceleration
(II) NVIDIA(0): Support for GLX with the Damage and Composite X extensions is
(II) NVIDIA(0):     enabled.
(II) NVIDIA(0): NVIDIA GPU GeForce 7300 GS (G72) at PCI:1:0:0 (GPU-0)
(--) NVIDIA(0): Memory: 524288 kBytes
(--) NVIDIA(0): VideoBIOS: 05.72.22.34.00
(II) NVIDIA(0): Detected PCI Express Link width: 16X
(--) NVIDIA(0): Interlaced video modes are supported on this GPU
(--) NVIDIA(0): Connected display device(s) on GeForce 7300 GS at PCI:1:0:0:
(--) NVIDIA(0):     COMPAQ MV940 (CRT-0)
(--) NVIDIA(0):     NVIDIA TV Encoder (TV-0)
(--) NVIDIA(0): COMPAQ MV940 (CRT-0): 400.0 MHz maximum pixel clock
(--) NVIDIA(0): NVIDIA TV Encoder (TV-0): 400.0 MHz maximum pixel clock
(--) NVIDIA(0): TV encoder: NVIDIA
(II) NVIDIA(0): Display Device found referenced in MetaMode: CRT-0
(II) NVIDIA(0): Assigned Display Device: CRT-0
(II) NVIDIA(0): Validated modes:
(II) NVIDIA(0):     "CRT:1400x1050_75+0+0"
(II) NVIDIA(0):     "CRT:1400x1050+0+0"
(II) NVIDIA(0): Virtual screen size determined to be 1400 x 1050
(--) NVIDIA(0): DPI set to (98, 98); computed from "UseEdidDpi" X config
(--) NVIDIA(0):     option
(**) NVIDIA(0): Enabling 32-bit ARGB GLX visuals.
(--) Depth 24 pixmap format is 32 bpp
(II) do I need RAC?  No, I don't.
(II) resource ranges after preInit:
    [0] -1    0    0xffffffff - 0xffffffff (0x1) MX[b]
    [1] -1    0    0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[b]
    [2] -1    0    0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[b]
    [3] -1    0    0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[b]
    [4] -1    0    0xffffffff - 0xffffffff (0x1) MX[b]
    [5] -1    0    0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[b]
    [6] -1    0    0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[b]
    [7] -1    0    0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[b]
    [8] -1    0    0xffffffff - 0xffffffff (0x1) MX[b]
    [9] -1    0    0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[b]
    [10] -1    0    0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[b]
    [11] -1    0    0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[b]
    [12] -1    0    0xffffffff - 0xffffffff (0x1) MX[b]
    [13] -1    0    0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[b]
    [14] -1    0    0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[b]
    [15] -1    0    0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[b]
    [16] -1    0    0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[b]
    [17] -1    0    0x00000000 - 0x00000000 (0x1) IX[b]
    [18] -1    0    0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[b]
    [19] -1    0    0x00000000 - 0x00000000 (0x1) IX[b]
    [20] -1    0    0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[b]
    [21] -1    0    0x00000000 - 0x00000000 (0x1) IX[b]
    [22] -1    0    0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[b]
    [23] -1    0    0x00000000 - 0x00000000 (0x1) IX[b]
(II) NVIDIA(0): Initialized GPU GART.
(II) NVIDIA(0): ACPI: failed to connect to the ACPI event daemon; the daemon
(II) NVIDIA(0):     may not be running or the "AcpidSocketPath" X
(II) NVIDIA(0):     configuration option may not be set correctly.  When the
(II) NVIDIA(0):     ACPI event daemon is available, the NVIDIA X driver will
(II) NVIDIA(0):     try to use it to receive ACPI event notifications.  For
(II) NVIDIA(0):     details, please see the "ConnectToAcpid" and
(II) NVIDIA(0):     "AcpidSocketPath" X configuration options in Appendix B: X
(II) NVIDIA(0):     Config Options in the README.
(II) NVIDIA(0): Setting mode "CRT:1400x1050_75+0+0"
(II) Loading extension NV-GLX
(II) NVIDIA(0): NVIDIA 3D Acceleration Architecture Initialized
(==) NVIDIA(0): Disabling shared memory pixmaps
(II) NVIDIA(0): Using the NVIDIA 2D acceleration architecture
(==) NVIDIA(0): Backing store disabled
(==) NVIDIA(0): Silken mouse enabled
(II) NVIDIA(0): DPMS enabled
(II) Loading extension NV-CONTROL
(II) Loading extension XINERAMA
(==) RandR enabled
(II) Initializing built-in extension MIT-SHM
(II) Initializing built-in extension XInputExtension
(II) Initializing built-in extension XTEST
(II) Initializing built-in extension XKEYBOARD
(II) Initializing built-in extension XC-APPGROUP
(II) Initializing built-in extension SECURITY
(II) Initializing built-in extension XINERAMA
(II) Initializing built-in extension XFIXES
(II) Initializing built-in extension RENDER
(II) Initializing built-in extension RANDR
(II) Initializing built-in extension COMPOSITE
(II) Initializing built-in extension DAMAGE
(II) Initializing built-in extension XEVIE
(II) Initializing extension GLX
(**) Option "Protocol" "auto"
(**) Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
(II) Mouse0: Setting mouse protocol to "ExplorerPS/2"
(**) Mouse0: Device: "/dev/input/mice"
(**) Mouse0: Protocol: "auto"
(**) Option "CorePointer"
(**) Mouse0: always reports core events
(**) Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
(==) Mouse0: Emulate3Buttons, Emulate3Timeout: 50
(**) Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7"
(**) Mouse0: ZAxisMapping: buttons 4, 5, 6 and 7
(**) Mouse0: Buttons: 11
(**) Mouse0: Sensitivity: 1
(**) Option "CoreKeyboard"
(**) Keyboard0: always reports core events
(**) Option "Protocol" "standard"
(**) Keyboard0: Protocol: standard
(**) Option "AutoRepeat" "500 30"
(**) Option "XkbRules" "xorg"
(**) Keyboard0: XkbRules: "xorg"
(**) Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
(**) Keyboard0: XkbModel: "pc105"
(**) Option "XkbLayout" "us"
(**) Keyboard0: XkbLayout: "us"
(**) Option "CustomKeycodes" "off"
(**) Keyboard0: CustomKeycodes disabled
(II) evaluating device (Mouse0)
(II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Mouse0" (type: MOUSE)
(II) evaluating device (Keyboard0)
(II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Keyboard0" (type: KEYBOARD)
(II) Mouse0: Setting mouse protocol to "ExplorerPS/2"
(II) Mouse0: ps2EnableDataReporting: succeeded
(II) NVIDIA(0): Initialized GPU GART.
(II) Mouse autoprobe: Disabling secondary wheel
(II) NVIDIA(0): Initialized GPU GART.
(II) 3rd Button detected: disabling emulate3Button

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#8 2009-01-19 20:58:52

Cyrusm
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From: Bozeman, MT
Registered: 2007-11-15
Posts: 1,053

Re: X crashes (I think)

sorry, I'm dumb, of course it wouldn't be useful after a reboot.  these logs would only be worthwhile if we could somehow read them after the crash and before the reboot,


Hofstadter's Law:
           It always takes longer than you expect, even when you take into account Hofstadter's Law.

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#9 2009-01-19 21:12:24

Some0ne
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Registered: 2009-01-19
Posts: 6

Re: X crashes (I think)

Cyrusm wrote:

sorry, I'm dumb, of course it wouldn't be useful after a reboot.  these logs would only be worthwhile if we could somehow read them after the crash and before the reboot,

Tried to ssh into the computer when it has crashed but it didn't work, started open ssh and all, but it couldn't connect even over network. Bit har to get the logs without reboot arch (cant acces arch partion from windows if I resterted it by pressing the power button).

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#10 2009-01-23 22:19:56

Some0ne
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Registered: 2009-01-19
Posts: 6

Re: X crashes (I think)

I think the problem has been solved (but not really how). Did reinstall arch today, used the same setup as last time but it hasn't crashed yet. (=

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