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Ranguvar

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Registered: 2008-08-12

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Arch gets *really* bleeding-edge: releases KDE 4.2 before KDE does!

I know distro devs get KDE a full week or so earlier to begin testing with their distro, etc., and the essentially unchanged RC was here before, but KDE 4.2 stable is in Arch's main repos now - _before_ it's available on the KDE web site! I mean, I knew Arch was bleeding-edge, but come on!

http://www.archlinux.org/news/431/
(And, yes, the 4.2 ChangeLog link is broken, I suspect there will be such a page within 24hrs)

www.kde.org still says KDE 4.2 is to be released tomorrow, and I can't download the 4.2.0 source from the location specified in the KDE 4.2 PKGBUILDs. None of the KDE mirrors have it.

Not that I'm complaining...

Last edited by Ranguvar (2009-01-27 00:18:31)

Doehni

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Registered: 2007-05-19

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Re: Arch gets *really* bleeding-edge: releases KDE 4.2 before KDE does!

Arch is the future...

SamC

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Registered: 2008-05-13

Posts: 611

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Re: Arch gets *really* bleeding-edge: releases KDE 4.2 before KDE does!

KDE have probably had the release ready for a while now, they just haven't made a formal announcement in order to allow packagers time to package it -- as Arch has done.

sfbi

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From: Bergen

Registered: 2008-03-13

Posts: 36

Re: Arch gets *really* bleeding-edge: releases KDE 4.2 before KDE does!

Wahaha, I am happy with it

archlinuxsagi

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Registered: 2008-09-12

Posts: 259

Re: Arch gets *really* bleeding-edge: releases KDE 4.2 before KDE does!

I knew Arch was bleeding-edge, but come on!

That's why it is called Arch... :lol::lol:
Arch Linux the bleeding edge distro.. and I am proud of it!! yeah..

neowolf

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From: North Carolina

Registered: 2008-01-27

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Re: Arch gets *really* bleeding-edge: releases KDE 4.2 before KDE does!

Happened last time too. Arch's KDE team certainly doesn't hold back!

skottish

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Registered: 2006-06-16

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Re: Arch gets *really* bleeding-edge: releases KDE 4.2 before KDE does!

It's been January 27th where Pierre lives for a while now. He even followed the rules and got it out early.

A+ to Pierre and others that got this out.

userlander

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Registered: 2008-08-23

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Re: Arch gets *really* bleeding-edge: releases KDE 4.2 before KDE does!

Lol, that's awesome.

Ranguvar

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Registered: 2008-08-12

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Re: Arch gets *really* bleeding-edge: releases KDE 4.2 before KDE does!

Looks like KDEmod has 4.2 stable out now, too. Their core repo has both 4.1.3 and 4.2.0 -versioned packages. I'm not sure how pacman will handle that, though.

Caliburn

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Registered: 2008-02-21

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Re: Arch gets *really* bleeding-edge: releases KDE 4.2 before KDE does!

Actually, I've been following the KDE website changes for the last couple of weeks on a daily (if not obsessively, an hourly) basis, and I noted as of last night their (presumably) auto-timer changed from "2 days left!" to suddenly "4.2 is available!" I was a little surprised on seeing it, actually. I saw no comment on the website concerning it, rather odd considering their timer said otherwise. Still, on visiting KDE's website later this evening, I noted they've changed it back to 'KDE 4.2 releases tomorrow' or something to such an effect.

I'm surprised to see Arch has this now in extra. I'll be there after the new Arch ISO for a new system and ext4 out of the box.

Last edited by Caliburn (2009-01-27 04:18:18)

zyghom

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Re: Arch gets *really* bleeding-edge: releases KDE 4.2 before KDE does!

that seems to be a small problem with upgrade:

:: Synchronizing package databases...
 core is up to date
 extra is up to date
 community is up to date
 archlinuxfr is up to date
:: Starting full system upgrade...
resolving dependencies...
looking for inter-conflicts...

Targets (31): mysql-clients-5.0.75-2  mysql-5.0.75-3  akonadi-1.1.1-1  phonon-4.3.0-2  soprano-2.1.67-1  kdelibs-4.2.0-4  kdeaccessibility-4.2.0-1  kdebase-runtime-4.2.0-2  libical-0.43-1  
              kdepimlibs-4.2.0-1  kdebase-workspace-4.2.0-2  kdebindings-4.1.3-1  pycups-1.9.42-2  system-config-printer-1.1.1-2  kdeadmin-4.2.0-1  kdeartwork-4.2.0-1  kdebase-4.2.0-1  
              kdeedu-4.2.0-1  kdegames-4.2.0-1  kdegraphics-4.2.0-1  kdemultimedia-4.2.0-1  libmsn-4.0beta4-1  ortp-0.15.0-1  kdenetwork-4.2.0-2  libmal-0.44-1  kdepim-4.2.0-1  
              kdeplasma-addons-4.2.0-1  kdesdk-4.2.0-1  kdetoys-4.2.0-1  kdeutils-4.2.0-1  kdewebdev-4.2.0-1  

Total Download Size:    0.00 MB
Total Installed Size:   773.78 MB

Proceed with installation? [Y/n] 
checking package integrity...
(31/31) checking for file conflicts                 [######################################################################################################################################] 100%
error: could not prepare transaction
error: failed to commit transaction (conflicting files)
/usr/share/apps/plasma_scriptengine_ruby/applet.rb exists in both 'kdebase-workspace' and 'kdebindings'
/usr/share/apps/plasma_scriptengine_ruby/data_engine.rb exists in both 'kdebase-workspace' and 'kdebindings'
/usr/share/kde4/services/plasma-scriptengine-ruby-applet.desktop exists in both 'kdebase-workspace' and 'kdebindings'
/usr/share/kde4/services/plasma-scriptengine-ruby-dataengine.desktop exists in both 'kdebase-workspace' and 'kdebindings'
Errors occurred, no packages were upgraded.

Last edited by zyghom (2009-01-27 05:22:22)

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lenk

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Re: Arch gets *really* bleeding-edge: releases KDE 4.2 before KDE does!

same problem as zyghom.

zyghom

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Re: Arch gets *really* bleeding-edge: releases KDE 4.2 before KDE does!

pacman -d helped and did not brake anything
just instead of 31 I got only 22 packages to install
later I added the rest manually
and all is OK now

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lenk

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Re: Arch gets *really* bleeding-edge: releases KDE 4.2 before KDE does!

you sure thats safe way to do it?

I notice that kdebindings is 4.1.3-1. Maybe it hasn't been updated yet.

Last edited by lenk (2009-01-27 08:30:47)

zyghom

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Re: Arch gets *really* bleeding-edge: releases KDE 4.2 before KDE does!

you might be right but it works for me even with 4.1.3-1

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Pierre

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Re: Arch gets *really* bleeding-edge: releases KDE 4.2 before KDE does!

Sorry guyes, I forgot to move kdebindings (its not in the kde group). But it should be fixed on your mirror soon.

@zyghom: Never use -d! Run testdb to check what you have broken.

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lenk

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Re: Arch gets *really* bleeding-edge: releases KDE 4.2 before KDE does!

Thanks so much Pierre!

zyghom

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Re: Arch gets *really* bleeding-edge: releases KDE 4.2 before KDE does!

Sorry guyes, I forgot to move kdebindings (its not in the kde group). But it should be fixed on your mirror soon.

@zyghom: Never use -d! Run testdb to check what you have broken.

testdb shows no output at all

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Cosmin

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Registered: 2008-10-06

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Re: Arch gets *really* bleeding-edge: releases KDE 4.2 before KDE does!

great news and of course great distro

one question: should I install from arch repo or from kdemod?

Allan

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Re: Arch gets *really* bleeding-edge: releases KDE 4.2 before KDE does!

Decide for yourself: http://kdemod.ath.cx/about-kdemod.html

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Cosmin

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Re: Arch gets *really* bleeding-edge: releases KDE 4.2 before KDE does!

Decide for yourself: http://kdemod.ath.cx/about-kdemod.html

What would you suggest?

zyghom

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Re: Arch gets *really* bleeding-edge: releases KDE 4.2 before KDE does!

Decide for yourself: http://kdemod.ath.cx/about-kdemod.html

What would you suggest?

I used to have kdemod for long time
finally moved back to arch version
but same happened with distros as well: I started from Ubuntu, went trough Debian and now in "roots" - Arch

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Dead Code

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Re: Arch gets *really* bleeding-edge: releases KDE 4.2 before KDE does!

Decide for yourself: http://kdemod.ath.cx/about-kdemod.html

What would you suggest?

You wont feel any difference. The only thing you get with KDEmod is the modular approach.

Mikko777

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Re: Arch gets *really* bleeding-edge: releases KDE 4.2 before KDE does!

Decide for yourself: http://kdemod.ath.cx/about-kdemod.html

What would you suggest?

You wont feel any difference. The only thing you get with KDEmod is the modular approach.

good reading / info:

http://www.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch … 10022.html

(too bad the discussion seems to have died, imho kdemod as arch official kde would rock)

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lesergi

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Re: Arch gets *really* bleeding-edge: releases KDE 4.2 before KDE does!

Upgraded with no problems from testing repo!

It's me or KDE 4.2 is much faster than KDE 4.2 RC?

KDE ROCKS