icewm and drop shadow problems

tjwoosta · 2009-01-27 16:52:36

forgive me if this issue has been discussed, but i cant find it anywhere

i have used fluxbox for a long time but yesterday i decided i wanted to try something new

installed icewm and found a theme that i liked

now my problem is with xcompmgr

i have always used xcompmgr with the -c option to draw the shadows on my desktop for every WM that i have ever tried

usually it works almost flawlessly, but with icewm it really screws up my desktop

(if i turn on xcompmgr my wallpaper dissapears and i am left with a plain grey desktop)

so basically my choices are plain grey desktop with shadows, or wallpapered desktop without any shadows

has anybody else run into similar issues?

is there a way to fix it?

Last edited by tjwoosta (2009-01-27 16:53:23)

dschrute · 2009-01-27 18:43:31

Try reloading icewmbg via :
icewmbg -r

I have no idea if that will work, but I'm pretty sure IceWM only sets the background on startup, then "forgets" about it.

IceWM uses icewmbg to set the background which is typically started when icewm-session is called. So I think icewmbg is a one-time thing....Meaning once it runs + sets the background, it exits and icewm-session moves on to the next process ( icewm, icewmtray ...). So if another process that can change the background runs after it, that new process will overwrite whatever icewmbg has set.

tjwoosta · 2009-01-27 18:53:40

hmm..

that doesnt work either

when i run icewmbg -r i can see the wallpaper again, for a minute, but xcompmgr starts buggin out and flickers a few times, then it just goes back to the plain grey desktop again

I have no idea if that will work, but I'm pretty sure IceWM only sets the background on startup, then "forgets" about it.

i dont think that is the case becasue if i killall xcompmgr i get the wallpaper back

So if another process that can change the background runs after it, that new process will overwrite whatever icewmbg has set.

i think that is the same way any WM would do it, like with fbsetbg with fluxbox, but xcompmgr never effects the background with fluxbox or with any other WM's

Last edited by tjwoosta (2009-01-27 18:59:12)

rson451 · 2009-01-27 19:00:17

I wonder if xcompmgr is seeing the root window as a window and is trying to do something with it. I believe xcompmgr has a flag to attempt to ignore certain types of windows, try running it with that flag. (-c may be that, I'm on windows at work right now)

tjwoosta · 2009-01-27 19:08:57

ok

before i was starting xcompmgr with .icewm/startup

i figured that maybe the problem cold be that xcompmgr was starting too early, so i set it to sleep for 10 seconds

(that didn't help)

so i removed xcompmgr from the startup file and i tried to just start it manually from the terminal, just to see if i would get any errors

this is what i got (i had to push ctrl-c to kill because it was not stopping and xcompmgr was messing up my screen)

[ice@myhost ~]$ xcompmgr -t 4 -l 4 -cC
error 9 request 151 minor 4 serial 785
error 168 request 151 minor 8 serial 786
error 168 request 151 minor 8 serial 855
error 168 request 151 minor 8 serial 895
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error 168 request 151 minor 8 serial 7413
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error 168 request 151 minor 8 serial 8409
error 168 request 151 minor 8 serial 8443
^C
[ice@myhost ~]$

any ideas?

try running it with that flag

the flag you are talking about is -C and i did try but there is no difference

i have also tried using -n instead of -c just to see if it would work but i get the same error

Last edited by tjwoosta (2009-01-27 19:13:58)

dschrute · 2009-01-27 19:16:15

Then I'm not really sure. I know IceWM only has limited options when it comes to the desktop. It doesn't really do much besides display an image or a color.
Maybe try something besides icewmbg to set the background. I know the Rox Filer/Desktop is used along with IceWM alot, and can set backgrounds. Or PCManFM or similar. Anything that can set the background of your session. Then just don't use icewm-session to start IceWM, so icewmbg never loads.

tjwoosta · 2009-01-27 19:17:52

ok disregaurd that last error message that i posted

(it stoped doing that after i restarted icewm, but i still cant get the wallpaper and xcompmgr to play togerther)

tjwoosta · 2009-01-27 19:20:00

dschrute wrote:

Then I'm not really sure. I know IceWM only has limited options when it comes to the desktop. It doesn't really do much besides display an image or a color.
Maybe try something besides icewmbg to set the background. I know the Rox Filer/Desktop is used along with IceWM alot, and can set backgrounds. Or PCManFM or similar. Anything that can set the background of your session. Then just don't use icewm-session to start IceWM, so icewmbg never loads.

that sounds like a good plan

is icewmbg the only thing that icewm-session loads (besides icewm obviously)?

dschrute · 2009-01-27 19:32:45

From http://www.icewm.org/manual/icewm-3.html The only other thing I see is "icewmtray - catches the Docklet objects installed by various applications like PSI"

Also they make some suggestions here for programs to use to control the Desktop :
http://www.icewm.org/FAQ/IceWM-FAQ-9.html#ss9.6

It may even be as easy as using xset or xsetbg. I'm curious now, and I'll have to play with it when I get the chance :-)

tjwoosta · 2009-01-27 20:14:11

ok i got it!

simple fix

just installed pcmanfm and set up the background there (i can even have desktop icons now, although i probably wont use them)

thanks for all of your help

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icewm and drop shadow problems

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