Every time I update Arch seems to deteriorate more!

Bes · 2009-01-31 17:56:56

Hi,

I have just updated Arch Linux and every time I have done this recently, I run into a slew or problems caused by various bits of the config:

Currently:

I have the Gnome splash logo stuck in the middle of the screen
Half of the stuff on my dock has been replaced with these strange bars
my Xorg.conf no longer works properly
My startup 'jingle' has changed
The menu bar that usually sits at the top of the gnome screen has gone

I had to comment out " # Load "type1"" and " # RgbPath "/usr/lib/X11/rgb"" to get the GUI to load at all

I also had to reinstall dbus-core and got a script error at the end (as libdbus-1.so.3 was missing)

Any ideas what's going on?

Thanks

# nvidia-settings: X configuration file generated by nvidia-settings
# nvidia-settings:  version 1.0  (buildmeister@builder3)  Wed Jun 13 18:40:26 PDT 2007

# nvidia-xconfig: X configuration file generated by nvidia-xconfig
# nvidia-xconfig:  version 1.0  (buildmeister@builder3)  Wed Jun 13 18:39:30 PDT 2007

Section "ServerLayout"
    Identifier     "Layout0"
    Screen      0  "Screen0" 0 0
    InputDevice    "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
    InputDevice    "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
EndSection

Section "Files"
   # RgbPath         "/usr/lib/X11/rgb"
EndSection

Section "Module"
    Load           "dbe"
    Load           "extmod"
   # Load           "type1"
    Load           "freetype"
    Load           "glx"
EndSection

Section "ServerFlags"
    Option         "Xinerama" "0"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"

    # generated from default
    Identifier     "Mouse0"
    Driver         "mouse"
    Option         "Protocol" "auto"
    Option         "Device" "/dev/psaux"
    Option         "Emulate3Buttons" "no"
    Option         "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"

    # generated from default
    Identifier     "Keyboard0"
    Driver         "kbd"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
    Identifier     "Monitor0"
    VendorName     "Unknown"
    ModelName      "DELL E228WFP"
    HorizSync       30.0 - 83.0
    VertRefresh     56.0 - 75.0
    Option         "DPMS"
EndSection

Section "Device"
    Identifier     "Device0"
    Driver         "nvidia"
    VendorName     "NVIDIA Corporation"
EndSection

Section "Device"
    Identifier     "Videocard0"
    Driver         "nvidia"
    VendorName     "NVIDIA Corporation"
    BoardName      "GeForce 7300 GS"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
    Identifier     "Screen0"
    Device         "Videocard0"
    Monitor        "Monitor0"
    DefaultDepth    24
    Option         "TwinView" "0"
    Option         "metamodes" "1680x1050 +0+0; 1024x768 +0+0; 800x600 +0+0; 640x480 +0+0"
    SubSection     "Display"
        Depth       24
        Modes      "1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
    EndSubSection
EndSection

skottish · 2009-01-31 18:05:08

The short answer to all of this is that you haven't updated in a while. I know this because of your klibc thread. Since the klibc upgrade, there's been major upgrades to dbus, including the split to dbus and dbus-core, xorg-server, hal, and others. If you keep your system up to date, you'll be able to follow all of the other threads about these. There has been many threads addressing every issue that you brought up.

Bes · 2009-01-31 18:06:54

Ok thanks- yeah the problem was I was out of the country for a couple of months so didnt upgrade at all for ages

skottish · 2009-01-31 18:09:13

Bes wrote:

Ok thanks- yeah the problem was I was out of the country for a couple of months so didnt upgrade at all for ages

No worries. You just have the tail tell signs of not updating.

Did you get the klibc problem straightened out?

--EDIT--

I'll help you the best that I can if you'll stick with me here.

Bes · 2009-01-31 18:19:03

Hmm just doing some searches now (Nothing fixed yet)

I did fix the Klibc problem, but my applications became very unresponsive afterwards, so I restarted and x would not start.

Thanks!

skottish · 2009-01-31 18:21:30

Make sure that you have both dbus and dbus-core installed before you do anything else. I believe that the new xserver needs both. Then post the output of:

grep "EE" /var/log/Xorg.0.log

Bes · 2009-01-31 18:26:09

[sam@sam ~]$ grep "EE" /var/log/Xorg.0.log
Current Operating System: Linux sam 2.6.28-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Sun Jan 25 10:13:11 UTC 2009 i686
    (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
[sam@sam ~]$ date
Sat Jan 31 18:26:15 GMT 2009
[sam@sam ~]$

Bear in mind it is an old log entry- look at the date now.

Thanks

Last edited by Bes (2009-01-31 18:27:12)

skottish · 2009-01-31 18:27:43

There's no errors. Does X start now?

Bes · 2009-01-31 18:32:51

Yes- X starts but only with the entries in my original post removed from xorg.conf and my dock (Kiba dock) has got half the icons missing... plus the other issues (Infuriatingly these include the shortcut to all my apps and the shortcut to the terminal).

I haven't made any further changes yet.

Just realised I scripted my attempted reinstall of dbus earlier to get rid of the error regarding libdbus. This is the output:

[root@sam ~]# pacman -S dbus-core
warning: dbus-core-1.2.4-1 is up to date -- reinstalling
resolving dependencies...
looking for inter-conflicts...

Targets (1): dbus-core-1.2.4-1  

Total Download Size:    0.00 MB
Total Installed Size:   1.02 MB

Proceed with installation? [Y/n] y
checking package integrity...
(1/1) checking for file conflicts                   [#####################] 100%
(1/1) upgrading dbus-core                           [#####################] 100%
error: scriptlet failed to execute correctly

It seems that there are a lot of problems around DBus/ HAL/ avahi. I have checked all of these are present, and they are:

[root@sam ~]# pacman -Q avahi
avahi 0.6.24-1
[root@sam ~]# pacman -Q hal
hal 0.5.11-4
[root@sam ~]# pacman -Q dbus
dbus 1.2.4-1

Last edited by Bes (2009-01-31 18:38:48)

skottish · 2009-01-31 18:43:26

That last error I haven't seen before, and I'm a little confused on the solution. It's posted here:

http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/12853

If you don't have the packages shadow and filesystem installed, please install those and try installing dbus-core again.

Bes · 2009-01-31 18:49:18

Hi,

I already had them both- I saw that bug report too, but I already have dbus user/ group.

[root@sam ~]# pacman -S filesystem
warning: filesystem-2009.01-1 is up to date -- reinstalling
resolving dependencies...
looking for inter-conflicts...

Targets (1): filesystem-2009.01-1  

Total Download Size:    0.00 MB
Total Installed Size:   0.34 MB

Proceed with installation? [Y/n] y
checking package integrity...
(1/1) checking for file conflicts                   [#####################] 100%
(1/1) upgrading filesystem                          [#####################] 100%
warning: directory permissions differ on media/
filesystem: 777  package: 755
[root@sam ~]# pacman -S shadow
warning: shadow-4.1.2.1-2 is up to date -- reinstalling
resolving dependencies...
looking for inter-conflicts...

Targets (1): shadow-4.1.2.1-2  

Total Download Size:    0.00 MB
Total Installed Size:   5.13 MB

Proceed with installation? [Y/n] y
checking package integrity...
(1/1) checking for file conflicts                   [#####################] 100%
(1/1) upgrading shadow                              [#####################] 100%
[root@sam ~]# pacman -S dbus-core
warning: dbus-core-1.2.4-1 is up to date -- reinstalling
resolving dependencies...
looking for inter-conflicts...

Targets (1): dbus-core-1.2.4-1  

Total Download Size:    0.00 MB
Total Installed Size:   1.02 MB

Proceed with installation? [Y/n] y
checking package integrity...
(1/1) checking for file conflicts                   [#####################] 100%
(1/1) upgrading dbus-core                           [#####################] 100%
error: scriptlet failed to execute correctly
[root@sam ~]#

Last edited by Bes (2009-01-31 18:53:08)

skottish · 2009-01-31 18:56:56

So the last remaining problem with this part is with installing dbus-core?

--EDIT--

Looks like it's already installed.

There were some problems surrounding the dbus split and hal. Have you tried to simply reinstall your dock and restart X yet?

Bes · 2009-02-01 09:41:55

Yes, tried reinstalling my doc, no luck.

The things missing are the launcher and the terminal shortcuts.

The Gnome menu bar is also missing.... No idea how to get it back

Thanks

ckristi · 2009-02-01 09:48:25

Well.. sorry for just jumping into here. Some problems of dbus/hal after updating may be generated by the fact that you did not restart those services after upgrade. Try a

/etc/rc.d/hal stop
/etc/rc.d/dbus stop
/etc/rc.d/hal start (this will start dbus also)

Hope this helps.

Bes · 2009-02-01 10:20:32

Hi,

I have rebooted the system many times since the upgrade, so the services would have been restarted then.

Running those commands doesn't help:

[root@sam ~]# /etc/rc.d/hal stop
:: Stopping Hardware Abstraction Layer                                   [DONE] 
[root@sam ~]#  /etc/rc.d/dbus stop
:: Stopping D-BUS system messagebus                                      [DONE] 
[root@sam ~]# /etc/rc.d/hal start
:: Starting D-BUS system messagebus                                      [DONE] 
:: Starting Hardware Abstraction Layer                                   [DONE] 
[root@sam ~]#

This is my ~/.xsession-errors file after getting into the GUI:

/etc/gdm/Xsession: Beginning session setup...
/etc/gdm/Xsession: Setup done, will execute: gnome-session
gnome-session[3577]: WARNING: Could not parse desktop file /home/sam/.config/autostart/beagle-search-autostart.desktop: Key file does not have key 'Type'
gnome-session[3577]: WARNING: could not read /home/sam/.config/autostart/beagle-search-autostart.desktop
gnome-session[3577]: WARNING: Could not parse desktop file /home/sam/.config/autostart/beagled-autostart.desktop: Key file does not have key 'Type'
gnome-session[3577]: WARNING: could not read /home/sam/.config/autostart/beagled-autostart.desktop
gnome-session[3577]: WARNING: No required applications specified
gnome-session[3577]: WARNING: Application 'libcanberra-login-sound.desktop' failed to register before timeout
Conky: use_spacer should have an argument of left, right, or none.  'no' seems to be some form of 'false', so defaulting to none.
Conky: desktop window (1a6) is root window
Conky: window type - normal
Conky: drawing to created window (0x1400001)
Conky: drawing to double buffer
Conky: MPD error: problems getting a response from "localhost" on port 6600 : Connection refused

Error: Screen isn't composited. Please run compiz (-fusion) or another compositing manager.
--2009-02-01 10:13:42--  https://sambessey:*password*@mail.google.com/mail/feed/atom
Resolving mail.google.com... Conky: MPD error: problems getting a response from "localhost" on port 6600 : Connection refused

74.125.77.18, 74.125.77.19, 74.125.77.83, ...
Connecting to mail.google.com|74.125.77.18|:443... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 401 Unauthorized
Connecting to mail.google.com|74.125.77.18|:443... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: unspecified [text/xml]
Saving to: `STDOUT'

     0K .......... ..                                           145K=0.08s

2009-02-01 10:13:43 (145 KB/s) - `-' saved [12288]

Conky: MPD error: problems getting a response from "localhost" on port 6600 : Connection refused

beagled will run in the background.
Use beagle-status to check progress of beagled.
For log files check /home/sam/.beagle/Log/current-Beagle.

Conky: MPD error: problems getting a response from "localhost" on port 6600 : Connection refused

Conky: MPD error: problems getting a response from "localhost" on port 6600 : Connection refused

Got accel 65481, 0, 0
Got keycode 96
Got modmask 0
 * Detected Session: gnome
 * Searching for installed applications...
Conky: MPD error: problems getting a response from "localhost" on port 6600 : Connection refused

cannot setgid for user "mpd" at line 45: Operation not permitted
Conky: MPD error: problems getting a response from "localhost" on port 6600 : Connection refused

Screen is composited.
Got Event! 33, -1
APPLET : /usr/lib/awn/applets/separator.desktop

** (awn-applet-activation:3711): WARNING **: Unable to load module /usr/lib/awn/applets/separator/separator.so


** (awn-applet-activation:3711): WARNING **: libgnome-desktop-2.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

** (awn-applet-activation:3711): WARNING **: Could not create plug

Conky: MPD error: problems getting a response from "localhost" on port 6600 : Connection refused

LOADED : /home/sam/.config/awn/launchers/awn_launcher-2.desktop
LOADED : /home/sam/.config/awn/launchers/awn_launcher.desktop
LOADED : /home/sam/.config/awn/launchers/awn_launcher-4.desktop
LOADED : /home/sam/.config/awn/launchers/awn_launcher-1.desktop
LOADED : /home/sam/.config/awn/launchers/awn_launcher-3.desktop
LOADED : /home/sam/.config/awn/launchers/awn_launcher-5.desktop
APPLET : /usr/lib/awn/applets/taskman.desktop
APPLET : /usr/lib/awn/applets/awnterm.desktop
APPLET : /usr/lib/awn/applets/separator.desktop
APPLET : /usr/lib/awn/applets/showdesktop.desktop

** (awn-applet-activation:3715): WARNING **: Unable to load module /usr/lib/awn/applets/separator/separator.so


** (awn-applet-activation:3715): WARNING **: libgnome-desktop-2.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

** (awn-applet-activation:3715): WARNING **: Could not create plug


** (awn-applet-activation:3713): WARNING **: Unable to load module /usr/lib/awn/applets/awnterm/awnterm.so


** (awn-applet-activation:3713): WARNING **: libgnome-desktop-2.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

** (awn-applet-activation:3713): WARNING **: Could not create plug

APPLET : /usr/lib/awn/applets/weather.desktop
APPLET : /usr/lib/awn/applets/calendar.desktop
APPLET : /usr/lib/awn/applets/quit-applet.desktop
Conky: MPD error: problems getting a response from "localhost" on port 6600 : Connection refused

Conky: MPD error: problems getting a response from "localhost" on port 6600 : Connection refused

Got Event! 33, -1
compiz (core) - Error: Plugin 'text' not loaded.

compiz (ring) - Warn: No compatible text plugin found.
compiz (video) - Warn: No 8 bit GLX pixmap format, disabling YV12 image format

It would seem my problem is this:
** (awn-applet-activation:3715): WARNING **: libgnome-desktop-2.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

edit: in fact I think I recall something similar happenning a long time ago, and to fix it I simply softlinked the file from another location.... This time it is gone totally... Any ideas Reinstalling gnome-desktop didn't work?

Last edited by Bes (2009-02-01 10:30:41)

ckristi · 2009-02-01 10:29:55

I am not a GNOME user, but the only thing I can suggest is to rerun pacman -Syu. If that doesn't help... a reinstall of gnome-desktop maybe will. Otherwise it may be a packaging problem... and should be reported on the bugtracker.

Bes · 2009-02-01 10:31:52

Hi,

Sorry but reinstalling gnome-desktop didn't do it. (pacman -S gnome-desktop should suffice, right?)

And definately no trace of the file on my system

[root@sam ~]# pacman -Qo libgnome-desktop-2.so.2
error: failed to read file 'libgnome-desktop-2.so.2': No such file or directory
[root@sam ~]# find / | grep -i libgnome-desktop-2.so.2
[root@sam ~]#

Bes · 2009-02-01 10:36:18

Seems the file in question is not part of gnome-desktop anymore... Is this a bug or what is going on?

[root@sam ~]# pacman -Ql gnome-desktop | grep -i libgnome
gnome-desktop /usr/include/gnome-desktop-2.0/libgnome/
gnome-desktop /usr/include/gnome-desktop-2.0/libgnome/gnome-desktop-item.h
gnome-desktop /usr/include/gnome-desktop-2.0/libgnomeui/
gnome-desktop /usr/include/gnome-desktop-2.0/libgnomeui/gnome-bg.h
gnome-desktop /usr/include/gnome-desktop-2.0/libgnomeui/gnome-ditem-edit.h
gnome-desktop /usr/include/gnome-desktop-2.0/libgnomeui/gnome-hint.h
gnome-desktop /usr/include/gnome-desktop-2.0/libgnomeui/gnome-rr-config.h
gnome-desktop /usr/include/gnome-desktop-2.0/libgnomeui/gnome-rr-labeler.h
gnome-desktop /usr/include/gnome-desktop-2.0/libgnomeui/gnome-rr.h
gnome-desktop /usr/lib/libgnome-desktop-2.so
gnome-desktop /usr/lib/libgnome-desktop-2.so.7
gnome-desktop /usr/lib/libgnome-desktop-2.so.7.2.6

ckristi · 2009-02-01 10:42:53

What says a:

find / -name "libgnome-desktop*" -print

?
Cause it may be just a rename of the library in the newest package... which will render any executables depending on it to fail.
If that's the case, a developer must be informed through the bugtrack system to recompile the affected packages.

Bes · 2009-02-01 10:43:03

Ok it seems like softlinking that file has restored the menu to my doc, but I also used to have the gnome menu hidden at the top of the screen... I never really used it, but at least it was there. This is still gone, and I don't get any icons appearing on my desktop until I start something like Nautilus (which never becomes visible).... plus the Gnome splash is still stuck in the middle of the screen on the background.

No specific errors about missing files now, but AWN &Compiz still spitting errors

(awn-applet-activation:4647): GConf-CRITICAL **: gconf_value_get_string: assertion `value != NULL' failed
APPLET : /usr/lib/awn/applets/quit-applet.desktop
compiz (core) - Error: Plugin 'text' not loaded.

compiz (ring) - Warn: No compatible text plugin found.
compiz (video) - Warn: No 8 bit GLX pixmap format, disabling YV12 image format

ckristi · 2009-02-01 10:45:07

Yes. I guess this may be a bug that should be reported. What mirror are you using? Try to change the mirror and pacman -Syu again (maybe your mirror is out of sync). And if that does not change the problem, it's surely a bug.

ckristi · 2009-02-01 10:46:37

Soft linking is more like a problem generator than a problem saver, as far as I know.

skottish · 2009-02-01 17:19:02

ckristi wrote:

Soft linking is more like a problem generator than a problem saver, as far as I know.

This is true. Rebuilding whatever program that's throwing the error against the current system libraries is always the best solution.

Bes,

Some of the errors that you posted, the MPD one's, are complaining about not being able to connect to localhost. Is the machine that you're working out the problems on able to connect to the Internet?

mandog · 2009-02-01 20:43:43

try pacman -S gnome as in the wiki I updated my sons after 3months with no problem I think your problem is softlinking in the past and that is now coming back to haunt you

RJARRRPCGP · 2009-02-05 19:59:42

skottish wrote:

The short answer to all of this is that you haven't updated in a while. I know this because of your klibc thread. Since the klibc upgrade, there's been major upgrades to dbus, including the split to dbus and dbus-core, xorg-server, hal, and others. If you keep your system up to date, you'll be able to follow all of the other threads about these. There has been many threads addressing every issue that you brought up.

It's looking like I have this problem, too.

Because the last release was in June, 2008.

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