Arch has all these problems when running inside a VM?

mr4y · 2009-02-07 07:15:06

Actually, I'm trying to install Arch on a VM mainly to learn all the configuration and setup before doing a install on my HD. But there's a lot of problems happening. Like:

-If I do the first pacman -Syu, sometimes all the packages get corrupted somehow, and that happens when I do the rm /usr/lib/klibc/include/asm first to prevent all the packages conflicting.

-Vesa driver, Framebuffer, none of the video drivers work, nor mouse or keyboard in X

-Hal and DBus shows errors, so I can't enable the alternative hotplugging driver.

-Sometimes, X returns erratic erros about not finding screens(when doing X -config /root/xorg.conf.new), even if it has a drive on it's conf files.

Actually I'm really worried about if these problems might show when doing a HD install. Maybe I'll stick to not installing it at all, since I can't look at documentation when I can't use X to use a WM, to open a web browser. So....Can someone clarify some things? I'm running VirtualBox on WinXP Pro SP3.

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fogobogo · 2009-02-07 12:58:21

Yes, Arch has a lot trouble with running in a VM. My best guess is that it might has something to do with the fact that Arch is compiled for i686 upwards. If youre using the x64 version you might have more luck using the i686 version. One thing is for sure though: its a lot less pain running it from a real HDD

Theres also a 2009 RC1 iso. you might want to try that one. http://dev.archlinux.org/~aaron/archiso/

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attila · 2009-02-07 13:57:35

mr4y wrote:

Actually, I'm trying to install Arch on a VM mainly to learn all the configuration and setup before doing a install on my HD. But there's a lot of problems happening.

I use archlinux in a vm with kvm and must say no because i can run it without your problems.

mr4y wrote:

-Vesa driver, Framebuffer, none of the video drivers work, nor mouse on keyboard in X

I use the cirrus drivers with kvm but i must say that your problems sounds more as this "normal" problems with the new xorg. Take a look at at this http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xor … otplugging. Good luck.

aglarond · 2009-02-07 15:20:53

The only VM I've ever run Arch in is VirtualBox and it runs great. What are you trying to run in?

-mS

mr4y · 2009-02-07 21:00:04

Thanks to advice I got to configure X so keyboard, mouse and video driver responds, but with these errors:

Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/TTF, removing from list!
Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/Type1, removing from list!
error setting MTRR (base = 0xe0000000, size = 0x8000000, type = 1) Invalid argument (22)

And here's what I got when opening xterm:

xterm Xt error: Can't open display:
xterm: DISPLAY is not set

Apart from that, I got no hal errors again. But this is keeping me from install a WM.

Last edited by mr4y (2009-02-07 21:01:08)

McDuck · 2009-02-07 21:59:24

I too get corrupted packages when running pacman in virtualbox.
Rather irratic but perhaps 1/10 packages have to be downloaded again.

And no, it does not happend with a hdd install.

Alxe · 2009-02-08 00:00:55

I'm using Arch in a VM with VirtualBox, and it works fine, maybe there are some problems, but those can be easily overdone installing the Guest Additions.

damjan · 2009-02-08 00:32:29

I beleive the problems of the OT is that he installed from the very old ISO, probably used it a while, then upgraded. Now a lot of things got broken probably. A lot of new settings in xorg.conf (or lack of them) etc.

I also noticed that by default on Arch (installed from the RC1 iso) installing and running xorg server doesn't bring up HAL so you get an X server without keyboard and mouse. Maybe a comment in rc.conf or a dependency in the kdm start script would help.

R00KIE · 2009-02-08 02:17:00

I'm using Arch32 on the latest virtualbox and no problems whatsoever (I'm not using X by the way, I need just a console login).
I did an ftp install with the current install images 2008.06 I believe.

aglarond · 2009-02-08 03:00:41

I'm using it with X. Just install the vbox add-ons and you're good to go.

-mS

ataraxia · 2009-02-08 22:46:12

I installed both 32- and 64-bit Arch into VMs running under VirtualBox 2.1.2 on a Mac OS X 10.5.6 host, just today. The 32-bit install appears to work very well. The 64-bit one had some odd problems:
- Running "pysol" from community/pysolfc causes an interrupt storm (huge CPU use by ksoftirqd, filesystem thread, and disk thread). How weird.
- Using either the native Flash plugin, or the lib32 one with nspluginwrapper, locks up X with most any Flash content that actually moves. Since both the native and nspluginwrapper versions fail in the same way, I'm suspicious that the fault is with VirtualBox.

I'd love to hear some feedback that these problems do or don't occur on a real, non-virtual, Arch64 installation. Anybody want to test for me?

aglarond · 2009-02-08 22:56:00

I can't answer for pysol, but the native Flash plugin works for me out of the box on an Arch64 install. No problems here.

-mS

ataraxia · 2009-02-19 19:30:41

ataraxia wrote:

I installed both 32- and 64-bit Arch into VMs running under VirtualBox 2.1.2 on a Mac OS X 10.5.6 host, just today. The 32-bit install appears to work very well. The 64-bit one had some odd problems:
- Running "pysol" from community/pysolfc causes an interrupt storm (huge CPU use by ksoftirqd, filesystem thread, and disk thread). How weird.
- Using either the native Flash plugin, or the lib32 one with nspluginwrapper, locks up X with most any Flash content that actually moves. Since both the native and nspluginwrapper versions fail in the same way, I'm suspicious that the fault is with VirtualBox.
I'd love to hear some feedback that these problems do or don't occur on a real, non-virtual, Arch64 installation. Anybody want to test for me?

For what it's worth, both of these issues are solved under VirtualBox 2.1.4. Plus, performance is much better overall (both guest and host). I think 2.1.2 was a bad release.

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