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#1 2004-09-14 16:41:52

Echo1
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From: BC, Canada
Registered: 2004-03-02
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KDE 3.3 menu and update

My system was orignally an AMLUG 5.1 install updated many times.
I just did an pacman -Su (xorg-6.8.0-2 and qt updated)
Now "All Applications" in KDE menu has "No Entries".
This is only for users, root KDE menu is ok.
The desktop was ok
I googled around
I have removed .kde from the /home/user directory.
KDE menu remains vacant
Anyone have any ideas?

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#2 2004-09-14 16:58:24

colnago
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Re: KDE 3.3 menu and update

It was one of the recent updates that did it (xorg,qt,zlib,iptables,or xscreensaver).   I have it on 2 systems that I just upgraded.  The menus are in /opt/kde/... somewhere, I always forget. 

The control centre is empty too, so it looks like everything is out.  Maybe a permission problem?   I have to go to work so I leave it at that.

Edit:  This thread is the place to watch. 

http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php? … sc&start=0

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#3 2004-09-14 17:10:08

shastry
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Re: KDE 3.3 menu and update

according to my experiences, xorg is the culprit - i installed the old version and kde is back on track

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#4 2004-09-16 01:19:22

dj
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Re: KDE 3.3 menu and update

i can't seem to get the icons to load in the menu or the bar at the bottom, i don't want to downgrade my xorg because that has to be the case, i reinstalled kde and created a new user to test it and it had the same problem. had any luck?

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#5 2004-09-16 01:36:53

colnago
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Re: KDE 3.3 menu and update

there is a new xorg build out now, maybe that fixes it, although the other thread claims it is in kde.sh.

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#6 2004-09-16 01:44:02

dj
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Re: KDE 3.3 menu and update

interesting, i did a pacman -Syu earlier today and it was uptodate, but i just did one now and there is a new one, i will atempt to upgrade, but is your kde running fine with the upgraded version?

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#7 2004-09-16 02:27:12

colnago
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Re: KDE 3.3 menu and update

I just updated to the new xorg and my menus are still there after a reboot.  This system never lost them, as I did not upgrade due to all of the problems I had at work on my other arch system. I will try there tomorrow.

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#8 2004-09-16 05:00:58

rudefyet
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Re: KDE 3.3 menu and update

just installed the latest xorg...still no menus  :?


Compaq R3000Z + Arch = Secks

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#9 2004-09-16 18:22:30

Mr Green
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Re: KDE 3.3 menu and update

anyone got a kde.sh file they could post that works ???


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#10 2004-09-16 19:08:19

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Re: KDE 3.3 menu and update

This one does
/etc/profile.d/kde.sh

export KDEDIR=/opt/kde
export PATH=$PATH:$KDEDIR/bin
export MANPATH=$MANPATH:$KDEDIR/man
if [ ! -z $XDG_DATA_DIRS ]; then
  export XDG_DATA_DIRS=$XDG_DATA_DIRS:$KDEDIR/share
else
  export XDG_DATA_DIRS=$KDEDIR/share
fi
if [ ! -z $XDG_CONFIG_DIRS ]; then
  export XDG_CONFIG_DIRS=$XDG_CONFIG_DIRS:$KDEDIR/etc/xdg
else
  export XDG_CONFIG_DIRS=$KDEDIR/etc/xdg
fi

Maybe you also need an up to date gnome.sh (the wrong gnome.sh (or the combination with it in a system) which is still existing in the package might also damage the menu)
/etc/profile.d/gnome.sh

export GNOMEDIR=/opt/gnome
export PATH=$PATH:$GNOMEDIR/bin
export MANPATH=$MANPATH:$GNOMEDIR/man
export PKG_CONFIG_PATH=$PKG_CONFIG_PATH:$GNOMEDIR/lib/pkgconfig
export LIBGLADE_MODULE_PATH=$LIBGLADE_MODULE_PATH:$GNOMEDIR/lib/libglade/2.0

if [ ! -z $XDG_DATA_DIRS ]; then
  export XDG_DATA_DIRS=$XDG_DATA_DIRS:$GNOMEDIR/share
else
  export XDG_DATA_DIRS=$GNOMEDIR/share
fi
#if [ ! -z $XDG_CONFIG_DIRS ]; then
#  export XDG_CONFIG_DIRS=$XDG_CONFIG_DIRS:$GNOMEDIR/etc/gconf
#else
#  export XDG_CONFIG_DIRS=$GNOMEDIR/etc/gconf
#fi

Restart afterwards to test.

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#11 2004-09-16 19:16:41

Mr Green
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Re: KDE 3.3 menu and update

mine is exactly the same ... what could it be.... the only thing I did was reomve the kturtle files when I upgraded kde very strange

Thanks anyway ..... smile


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#12 2004-09-17 20:34:18

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Re: KDE 3.3 menu and update

OK ... with new KDE packages the kde.sh seems to be fixed. I can also login as root und menues are up again ... BUT ... if i try to start KDE as user KDE doesn't load. I get the splash screen and very soon i'm back again at KDM sad. Any solutions?

EDIT: Already deleted the users ~/.kde, but same problems remains.

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#13 2004-09-17 20:44:24

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Re: KDE 3.3 menu and update

As I mentionned on another post, I have the same problem.  except  that I get a terminal instead of going back to kdm. I will try using gdm.

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#14 2004-09-17 21:00:26

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Re: KDE 3.3 menu and update

OK seems like a pacman -Syu solved my problem. A new kdeartwork package was installed and i can login as user again smile. Thanks.

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#15 2004-09-17 21:04:00

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Re: KDE 3.3 menu and update

I just found out that it works with gdm.  I will try a pacman -Syu since I like kdm better. big_smile

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#16 2004-09-17 21:31:53

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Re: KDE 3.3 menu and update

It didn't work for me  sad  I already had the kdeartwork 3.3.0-2 package.  I redownloaded and reinstalled it without success.  I will try reinstalling all the kde packages.  Any ideas?  I had to reinstall kde several time  when I upgraded from kde 3.2 to 3.3.

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#17 2004-09-17 21:54:40

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Re: KDE 3.3 menu and update

It works now tongue . A pacman -S kde did the trick.

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#18 2004-09-18 01:07:07

dj
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Re: KDE 3.3 menu and update

the new update fixed all the problems

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#19 2004-09-18 07:01:22

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Re: KDE 3.3 menu and update

Snowman wrote:

It didn't work for me  sad  I already had the kdeartwork 3.3.0-2 package.  I redownloaded and reinstalled it without success.  I will try reinstalling all the kde packages.  Any ideas?  I had to reinstall kde several time  when I upgraded from kde 3.2 to 3.3.

Hmm ... i was a little too fast. the update of kdeartwork didn't work. Had the same problem as user that KDE didn't start after a reboot. But found out, that if i login as root, logout and then try it as normal user KDE starts with normal user too.

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#20 2004-09-18 10:05:04

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Re: KDE 3.3 menu and update

I still don't have the menu. Only as root.

Is there a solution to this or not? Some people have said that it should help to reinstall kde. Doesn't for me...

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#21 2004-09-18 10:21:02

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Re: KDE 3.3 menu and update

Just updated kde ...

logged in as root menu back...... tongue

logged in as user menu back but some panel icons still missing ?

HTH


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#22 2004-09-18 12:27:39

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Re: KDE 3.3 menu and update

Missing icons?

I have extra Gnome icons in my KDE menu, from the Gnome apps I have installed.

Note: I haven't added/removed anything from my menu. It is generated from the files installed by KDE/Gnome applications.

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#23 2004-09-18 19:06:37

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Re: KDE 3.3 menu and update

Does anybody have a solution for my "root first else cannot loggin as user"-Problem? Splash-screen shows "initiliasing devices" then back to KDM when i try to loggin as user (works only if i loggin as root, logout and then loggin as user again).

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#24 2004-09-18 20:05:56

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Re: KDE 3.3 menu and update

Try upgrading to the newest initscripts package and restarting.


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#25 2004-09-18 22:28:10

Snowman
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Re: KDE 3.3 menu and update

ActionNews wrote:

Does anybody have a solution for my "root first else cannot loggin as user"-Problem? Splash-screen shows "initiliasing devices" then back to KDM when i try to loggin as user (works only if i loggin as root, logout and then loggin as user again).

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Have you tried  pacman -S kde ?

How about using gdm instead of kdm?  For me, it worked when I couldn't log with kdm.

[EDIT] Maybe the users can't set up the X display.  I had some similar problems when I played with the .Xautorithy files.

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