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#226 2009-04-13 10:31:31

baze
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Re: Gnome 2.26 Discussion

as for gnome-power-manager 2.26 i have no problems running it with latest devkit-power, so no reason not to upgrade that, except the devkit-power api isn't stable yet.
but i have trouble with gdm 2.26 here which causes me to be unable to restart or shut down the machine from either a gnome session or from gdm. both work fine with 2.20.
has anyone solved that problem and can provide a working PKGBUILD for a new gdm?

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#227 2009-04-13 12:55:18

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Re: Gnome 2.26 Discussion

moljac024 wrote:

Is anyone else having issues with gnome-screensaver outside of gnome ? I'm using that with openbox, but it seems not to be able to detect idle time anymore. I remember this same thing popping up with the update to 2.24, but the problem then was that it needed a dbus-session to work (as opposed to the 2.22 version, which didn't) so I've been starting a dbus-session along with openbox ever since but with this new update I don't know what the heck more can I be missing... are they adding more and more runtime dependencies for gnome-screensaver to work without adding any new functionality ? It sure looks like that...

People are having issues with gnome-screensaver and idle times inside GNOME as well. Upgrading gnome-power-manager to 2.26 seems to resolve this issue?

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#228 2009-04-13 14:04:49

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Re: Gnome 2.26 Discussion

z.s.tar.gz wrote:

Does anyone have video lag? I can't tell if it is ATI, X, or Metacity

I do if I'm playing from remote sources, but local is fine.

I am using nVidia so I don't think it's that.  I didn't notice it until after I switched to x896_64 and Gnome 2.26, so I'm not sure which is the culprit.

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#229 2009-04-13 14:17:49

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Re: Gnome 2.26 Discussion

Nepherte wrote:
moljac024 wrote:

Is anyone else having issues with gnome-screensaver outside of gnome ? I'm using that with openbox, but it seems not to be able to detect idle time anymore. I remember this same thing popping up with the update to 2.24, but the problem then was that it needed a dbus-session to work (as opposed to the 2.22 version, which didn't) so I've been starting a dbus-session along with openbox ever since but with this new update I don't know what the heck more can I be missing... are they adding more and more runtime dependencies for gnome-screensaver to work without adding any new functionality ? It sure looks like that...

People are having issues with gnome-screensaver and idle times inside GNOME as well. Upgrading gnome-power-manager to 2.26 seems to resolve this issue?

I don't have gnome-power-manager installed....is that a dependency now ? I have to be running that so that the screensaver can work ? If so, then it's time to ditch gnome-screensaver and just use xscreensaver. And apologize to MrElendig and thank him for showing me the light...


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#230 2009-04-13 15:12:47

Nepherte
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Re: Gnome 2.26 Discussion

moljac024 wrote:

I don't have gnome-power-manager installed....is that a dependency now ? I have to be running that so that the screensaver can work ? If so, then it's time to ditch gnome-screensaver and just use xscreensaver. And apologize to MrElendig and thank him for showing me the light...

Nah, I don't think it's a dependency. It just has the same problems as gnome-screensaver, i.e. the timings aren't correct. I tryed upgrading gnome-power-manager to 2.26 and it didn't work. Time to switch to xscreensaver indeed.

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#231 2009-04-13 17:11:31

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Re: Gnome 2.26 Discussion

I seem to be having strange behaviour with Nautilus after the update.  The Nautilus windows open behind my other windows.  Really annoying.

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#232 2009-04-13 17:17:11

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Re: Gnome 2.26 Discussion

rsambuca wrote:

I seem to be having strange behaviour with Nautilus after the update.  The Nautilus windows open behind my other windows.  Really annoying.

Same here. hmm

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#233 2009-04-13 17:38:57

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Re: Gnome 2.26 Discussion

I think this now controls screensaver timeout (use GConf Editor):

desktop->gnome->session->idle_delay

Mine was set to 5 and my screensaver would come on after 5 minutes. I set mine to 15 and it stayed on more than 5 minutes (I didn't wait all 15). I don't know if there are any other settings for blanking the screen or anything. Maybe this makes sense to someone?


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#234 2009-04-13 19:11:37

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Re: Gnome 2.26 Discussion

@mrunion: interesting... /desktop/gnome/session/idle_delay vs. /apps/gnome-screensaver/idle_delay

screensaver only sets the one in /apps  ... maybe a bug?


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#235 2009-04-13 19:54:05

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Re: Gnome 2.26 Discussion

I'd just like to say thanks to JGC for all the hard work, just installed Gnome 2.26 and everything is working perfect.

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#236 2009-04-13 20:16:42

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Re: Gnome 2.26 Discussion

That's what I was thinking. I'll have to try and investigate more when I get home.


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#237 2009-04-13 21:39:58

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Re: Gnome 2.26 Discussion

Gnome 2.26.1 is now in extra from that what I see, and with it gnome-power-manager 2.26. Gdm still in 2.20.


Archlinux: x86_64, Gnome 2.26.*
I am registered Linux user number 485935 since september, 2007.

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#238 2009-04-13 22:02:26

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Re: Gnome 2.26 Discussion

MazurMe wrote:

Gnome 2.26.1 is now in extra from that what I see, and with it gnome-power-manager 2.26. Gdm still in 2.20.

It's just me or the new power manager has a new (ugly) icon? It's not using the one matching my icon theme (tango) anymore. sad

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#239 2009-04-14 00:14:40

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Re: Gnome 2.26 Discussion

guys, after i've updated gnome-power-manager now seems that any action i do like pressing power button, closing lid should suspend or turn monitor and special keys, doesn't work anymore.
does somebody have any issue like mine?

EDIT: i think hal update is the fault of all my issues.i need to investigate more.

Last edited by wonder (2009-04-14 00:24:50)


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#240 2009-04-14 01:02:56

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Re: Gnome 2.26 Discussion

wonder wrote:

guys, after i've updated gnome-power-manager now seems that any action i do like pressing power button, closing lid should suspend or turn monitor and special keys, doesn't work anymore.
does somebody have any issue like mine?

EDIT: i think hal update is the fault of all my issues.i need to investigate more.

Or maybe it's policy-kit. Try checking if your system policy allows you to shutdown, sleep, etc.

BTW I belive there's a bug with the new power manager related to the brightness OSD, if you increase or decrease brightness it won't appear. However if there's an event (like going on battery power) when the brightness decreases the OSD appears.
Is there anything I can do to have it back? tongue

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#241 2009-04-14 07:21:16

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Re: Gnome 2.26 Discussion

g-p-m 2.26.1 or it's dependencies really broken. After upgrade my ups not detected by g-p-m but I can see ups in hal-device.

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#242 2009-04-14 07:36:28

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Re: Gnome 2.26 Discussion

wonder wrote:

guys, after i've updated gnome-power-manager now seems that any action i do like pressing power button, closing lid should suspend or turn monitor and special keys, doesn't work anymore.
does somebody have any issue like mine?

EDIT: i think hal update is the fault of all my issues.i need to investigate more.

I don't think it's hal issue, i used gpm 2.24 successfuly with hal 0.5.12

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#243 2009-04-14 07:44:31

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Re: Gnome 2.26 Discussion

walmis wrote:

I don't think it's hal issue, i used gpm 2.24 successfuly with hal 0.5.12

downgrading fixed the issue. i need to find one a fix for that.


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#244 2009-04-14 09:41:03

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Re: Gnome 2.26 Discussion

gnome-power-manager 2.26 doesn't use hal anymore, but devicekit + devicekit-power.

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#245 2009-04-14 09:43:37

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Re: Gnome 2.26 Discussion

JGC wrote:

gnome-power-manager 2.26 doesn't use hal anymore, but devicekit + devicekit-power.

i managed to make it work compiling gnome-power-manager with --enable-legacy-buttons but i'm not sure what is the right fix for that. maybe is an upstream bug or a lack a functionality in devicekit and devicekit-power

Last edited by wonder (2009-04-14 09:47:03)


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#246 2009-04-14 12:23:44

Vieira
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Re: Gnome 2.26 Discussion

Can anyone please confirm that the brightness OSD doesn't work?

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#247 2009-04-14 12:24:43

wonder
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Re: Gnome 2.26 Discussion

Vieira wrote:

Can anyone please confirm that the brightness OSD doesn't work?

did you try my fix?


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#248 2009-04-14 12:25:19

Fackamato
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Re: Gnome 2.26 Discussion

Vieira wrote:

Can anyone please confirm that the brightness OSD doesn't work?

Works for me

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#249 2009-04-14 13:48:01

Vieira
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Re: Gnome 2.26 Discussion

wonder wrote:
Vieira wrote:

Can anyone please confirm that the brightness OSD doesn't work?

did you try my fix?

Your fix solved my problem. Thank you very much.
So next builds shall have this flag... right devs? tongue

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#250 2009-04-14 20:57:05

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Re: Gnome 2.26 Discussion

I need to comment that enabling legacy buttons also fixes the problem w/ my UPS not being detected. Hopefully the maintainer sees this needs to be enabled in the next update.

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