Hey. New to arch. Need some Help.

JK3mp · 2009-03-26 14:32:49

Hey Im a new to arch and am hoping i'll liike the switch. I've been using Ubuntu on my laptop and Fedora on my Desktop for about 8 months now so i have a fair amount of linux knowledge. Arch is a little diffrent step as i know and not so much hold your hand, so bare with me if i need help. Then again...thats why there's this forum. . Anywho...just gotta few questions....first off i installed it, but have no GUI..as i found out this is normal...so i just set up my wireless drivers and connected through the terminal prompt. Im connected to wifi BUT for some reason when i go pacman -S gnome and download gnome. ( OR really anything through it) it downloads at only 4kb/s . Which is WAY too slow cause its High Speed Cable and im connecting to a router. I've already booted up in UBuntu and Windows and it works just fine. Anywho..at this rate downloading gnome would take forever. If anyone can help with this it would be great. ALSOim in decision mode on whether to even use Gnome or if i should use XFCE or KDE. I've normally used gnome on the other distro's but am looking for the most light weight one, but still with lots of "style" flexibility, i guess is the way to put it. Any suggestions on my problem or the better "in opinion" GUI are appreciated. Thanks
-JK3mp

wonder · 2009-03-26 14:34:45

just take a look at /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist and put in the first the mirror that is from your country. by default ftp.archlinux.org is in front and that mirror si quite slow.
after that do pacman -Syyu do upgrade the system and then install gnome

Last edited by wonder (2009-03-26 14:35:19)

JK3mp · 2009-03-26 14:39:56

Yeah..but it was so slow...i'll try changing the mirror, thanx. I'll get back and let ya know how it goes'.

evr · 2009-03-26 14:49:48

you can use rankmirror to find the fastest mirrors for your location.

http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Imp … rankmirror

Alxe · 2009-03-26 15:28:27

Here's a rankmirror example:

# cd /etc/pacman.d/
# mv mirrorlist mirrorlist.original
# rankmirror -n 0 mirrorlist.original > mirrorlist
# pacman -Syy

Firstly it gets you to /etc/pacman.d/ because the files are there. Then moves the original file to mirrorlist.original to make a backup of your mirrors, and uses rankmirror to rank them in a new file called mirrorlist, note that this usually takes some time and doesn't give sign of process, at least not to me. When it's finalized, then do a pacman re-sync to get the lastest packages with the nearest mirrors. Also, with this, you don't have to change your pacman.conf

PD: Instead of mv (move), you could also use cp (copy)

Runiq · 2009-03-26 15:53:02

Did you set your hostname in /etc/hosts.conf to the same as found in rc.conf? This might be a cause of slow networking as well IIRC.

JK3mp · 2009-03-26 15:55:04

Thanks guys im still getting slow speeds and i tried a few of them. But i'll try that rankmirror suggestion. Do they go that slow for everyone? Max i've hit is 8.3 k. Well at VERY first dl update it showed 50 kb / ps then dropped quickly. Now max i hit is 8.3k

eldragon · 2009-03-26 16:01:22

you could give more info on your hardware, or even try to do this through an ethernet cable, to rule out wireless...

JK3mp · 2009-03-26 16:02:25

Runiq wrote:

Did you set your hostname in /etc/hosts.conf to the same as found in rc.conf? This might be a cause of slow networking as well IIRC.

Umm... for some reason i don't have a hosts.conf file. maybe that be an issue xD i have a hosts.deny w/e that is.

JK3mp · 2009-03-26 16:09:58

eldragon wrote:

you could give more info on your hardware, or even try to do this through an ethernet cable, to rule out wireless...

I would but i'm doing it at school on there wireless. I live where all i can get is wireless broadband and sattellite. Which i have both (sattellite with 500mb a day limit) and Sprint Mobile Broadband (5GIG a month). I guess i could always go to a freinds xD LOL.

eldragon · 2009-03-26 16:20:03

JK3mp wrote:

Runiq wrote:
Did you set your hostname in /etc/hosts.conf to the same as found in rc.conf? This might be a cause of slow networking as well IIRC.
Umm... for some reason i don't have a hosts.conf file. maybe that be an issue xD i have a hosts.deny w/e that is.

because its called host.conf

wonder · 2009-03-26 16:32:37

it is /etc/hosts )

JK3mp · 2009-03-26 18:16:23

so go vi etc hosts? and change it to same in rc.conf?

Runiq · 2009-03-26 18:30:23

wonder wrote:

it is /etc/hosts

...whoops, my bad.
The file's /etc/hosts, and you want to add the exact same hostname that you specified in the HOSTNAME="..." line in your /etc/rc.conf. Just add it after localhost if it isn't there already. (If it is, in fact, already there, then this and my previous post were totally pointless.)

JK3mp wrote:

so go vi etc hosts? and change it to same in rc.conf?

Yep, that's basically it.

Last edited by Runiq (2009-03-26 18:37:40)

JK3mp · 2009-03-27 13:21:58

Okay now my hosts page says

#
# /etc/hosts: static lookup table for host names
#

#<ip-address>         <hostname.domain.org>  <hostname>
127.0.0.1                   localhost.localdomain       Olympus

# End of file

and that does match the hostname in rc.conf where it says HOSTNAME="Olympus" which i obviously assume is where u meant. lol. So i'll give it another try and see wats up.

EVRAMP · 2009-03-27 13:48:00

you should also have localhost in /etc/hosts along with your hostname from rc.conf
like this:

#
# /etc/hosts: static lookup table for host names
#

#<ip-address>         <hostname.domain.org>  <hostname>
127.0.0.1                   localhost.localdomain       localhost Olympus

# End of file

JK3mp · 2009-03-27 15:11:57

ok I was gonna say I still have Same speeds but I'll try that and see if there's a difference

JK3mp · 2009-03-27 15:40:36

Im still only getting like 8k/s it starts off at 29 k/s which would be ok but then drops. . I'll try it on a diffrent wirless and if same results i'll probably just borrow a friends ethernet xD .

thisperishedmin · 2009-03-27 16:27:36

since you already ruled out the mirrors and your host seems right from what youre telilng us, plugging in and seeing if you get better throughput would in fact be a good troubleshooting step at this point

good luck!

JK3mp · 2009-03-27 16:45:50

yeah...Thanks again ev1! I'll let ya know how it goes when i plug in.

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