Can't find opera in repository

SShin0bi · 2009-05-02 12:51:07

Hi,

Yesterday i installed new Arch and now i can't find opera on any of the mirrors of pacman.
Can someone tell me what's wrong with opera in Arch?

Thank you!

pacman -Syu
:: Synchronizing package databases...
testing is up to date
core is up to date
extra is up to date
community is up to date

pacman -S opera
opera package not found, searching for group...
error: 'opera': not found in sync db

deej · 2009-05-02 12:53:33

It's to be found over in AUR now:

This package is the official one from the [extra] repository. We have to move it because of a unclear license issue. After we have clarify this issue the package will be back in the repos or not. It should not be moved to community, because of the license.

Deej

SShin0bi · 2009-05-02 12:55:12

Oh, Thank you for quick answer

LeoSolaris · 2009-05-03 22:06:58

The opera-snapshot (weekly build of Opera) is available in the archlinuxfr repo.

(Side note, archlinuxfr is like the AUR but without the 'are you sure' checks that the AUR has, so be careful, and understand that there is some risk involved in using non-official repos. That said, many archers use the archlinuxfr repo and no one has reported any security faux pas to my knowledge.)

Devastator · 2009-06-02 10:09:03

Does anyone know what was the exact issue with the Opera license? I think I could clearify this in a short time .

pressh · 2009-06-02 10:30:38

Devastator wrote:

Does anyone know what was the exact issue with the Opera license?

we were unsure of the part in the license which states

opera license wrote:

"You shall not modify, translate, reverse engineer, decompile or
disassemble the Software or any part thereof or otherwise attempt to
derive source code, create or use derivative works therefrom."

we shipped opera with a slightly changed executable and pluginpath.ini file to work which may or may not be considered as derivative work. IIRC we got no response from opera when we asked about it giving us no choice but to remove it.

Devastator · 2009-06-02 14:11:29

Can you explain how exactly the executable has been changed? This may be important to them .

pressh · 2009-06-02 14:47:45

check the PKGBUILD in AUR, notably the sed command and the applied patch (both are really simple changes to make things work on Arch Linux). Also we shipped it as a .pkg.tar.gz package which apart from the above may also be considered derivative work.
Either way we already tried to contact opera back in April explaining/asking permission but got no response from them.

Devastator · 2009-06-03 09:19:27

Okay, the legal department of the Opera is looking into this issue. I hope, I'll get some response from them soon.

ise · 2009-06-03 11:21:50

Devastator wrote:

Okay, the legal department of the Opera is looking into this issue. I hope, I'll get some response from them soon.

Are you working for opera? I have contact them months ago and no answer yet.

EDIT: Would be great, if you can send (daniel at archlinux.org) me the details which you have sent to opera.

Last edited by ise (2009-06-03 11:26:23)

Devastator · 2009-06-05 09:12:43

I've send you an e-mail, but I am not sure if you received it...

patroclo7 · 2009-07-05 13:00:29

Any news about this licensing issue? Now that the qt4 interface for x86_64 is available for opera 10 snapshot, I become an opera fan again

ise · 2009-07-05 13:17:29

I get no answer yet. Don't know what news Devastator has. Maybe he can tell us more.

rhomp2002 · 2009-09-05 03:52:33

Any further info on Opera and moving to active repository?

Allan · 2009-09-05 04:03:58

rhomp2002 wrote:

Any further info on Opera and moving to active repository?

no

Devastator · 2009-09-08 15:03:44

Unfortunately I have not received any final decision about this case. I think, I'll need to 'poke' them again.

Last edited by Devastator (2009-09-08 15:03:57)

Devastator · 2009-09-08 16:35:20

Alright - I have been told that the patched file has been changed recently (Opera 10.00), so it does not need to be patched anymore. And as far as I know - having unaltered Opera package in repositories is OK.
I'll be at home in about 2 hours, so I may check that myself then, or perhaps someone may check it earlier, so we may move on with including Opera to the repos .

Devastator · 2009-09-09 07:47:49

OK - for me opera-qt4 works well without the patch (I have i686 system).

pressh · 2009-09-10 11:29:21

is the 'sed' line also not needed anymore?

either way, I think a *pkg.tar.gz may still be considered derivative work, so even if we don't change a thing but make it a pacman package we are not sure if we can redistribute it.

Devastator · 2009-09-10 13:09:24

The patch was replacing such line:

test "${_QTSTYLE_FROM_CMDLINE_}" = 'NO' && test -f "$HOME/.qt/qtrc" && _OPERA_QTSTYLE=`sed -n 's/^style=//p' $HOME/.qt/qtrc` && test "$_OPERA_QTSTYLE" && set -- "$@" -style "$_OPERA_QTSTYLE"

with this one:

test "${_QTSTYLE_FROM_CMDLINE_}" = 'NO' && test -f "$HOME/.config/Trolltech.conf" && _OPERA_QTSTYLE=`sed -n 's/^style=//p' $HOME/.config/Trolltech.conf` && test "$_OPERA_QTSTYLE" && set -- "$@" -style "$_OPERA_QTSTYLE"

but the opera launching script has been rewritten since then, and this line has been removed at all.

either way, I think a *pkg.tar.gz may still be considered derivative work, so even if we don't change a thing but make it a pacman package we are not sure if we can redistribute it.

I hope to get a response for that soon.

pressh · 2010-03-30 08:05:44

any news on this that I missed?

mlan · 2010-05-06 20:21:16

Opera software has now changed the license for Opera 10.5x

http://my.opera.com/ruario/blog/show.dml/10870581

Last edited by mlan (2010-05-06 22:56:30)

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