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#251 2011-10-06 16:42:15

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Re: subtle - another tiling window manager

Hello..

I'm trying Subtle for the second time and am getting along pretty good smile However, there's just one feature I miss from my Compiz Standalone setup and that is the ability to change desktops by "sliding" (placing) my cursor in the (bottom) left/right screen edge.

I don't think this is possible with Subtle, and even if it is I don't think it will be implemented, but wanted to check anyway. Is this possible? tongue


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#252 2011-10-06 17:58:05

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Re: subtle - another tiling window manager

Unia wrote:

I don't think this is possible with Subtle, and even if it is I don't think it will be implemented, but wanted to check anyway. Is this possible? tongue

Hi, you are right that isn't possible and actually I don't see the benefit of it. To make this possible subtle needs to check the mouse position all the time and this also may cause side-effects when you want to press a UI element and not switch the view.

And upon public demand in #subtle I have to answer with the bear. wink

http://stuff.pyzam.com/funnypics/4/pyzamnothanks.jpg

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#253 2011-10-06 18:14:38

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Re: subtle - another tiling window manager

unexist wrote:

And upon public demand in #subtle I have to answer with the bear. wink

http://stuff.pyzam.com/funnypics/4/pyzamnothanks.jpg

Hahaha, ok, got it! wink


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#254 2011-10-06 19:39:51

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Re: subtle - another tiling window manager

Ok I've ran across some things I can not solve by myself. I have downloaded some Sublets and most of them work, but the Volume Sublet does not show up. I'm pretty sure it's listed:

screen 1 do
  top    [:views, :title, :center, :clock, :volume, :weather, :battery, :tray]
  #bottom [:center, :smpd, :center, :spacer, :clock, :separator, :volume, :tray]
end

Also, how can I move the things after :clock to the right of my panel? When I use :spacer they vanish (off screen?). I only want the clock Sublet centered, if possible.

Lastly (for now), is it possible to change the color of a Sublet's icon? I would like to have the clock icon orange, but the fonts in white. Can this be done? No matter what I tried, Subtle crashed on restart. Oh, and whilst we're at colors: can I have the battery font color change to red when it drops below 10%? I tried the settings that were listed upon installing it with sur, but it made Subtle crash too.

Thanks in advance! big_smile

EDIT: I'm using the latest Subtle-hg (3070-1) from AUR, if that matters.

Last edited by Unia (2011-10-06 19:41:28)


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#255 2011-10-07 13:25:31

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Re: subtle - another tiling window manager

Another question I couldn't find the answer to yet: is it possible to have, for example, a terminal open on any view, but not in stick mode? So if I open one on view 1, it stays there, - and if I open another one on view 3, that one spawns there?


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#256 2011-10-16 20:52:17

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Re: subtle - another tiling window manager

From subtle wiki:

The volume sublet uses /dev/mixer to set/get the volume levels, which is an older interface introduced with OSS and still available via ALSA OSS emulation. Apparently, newer kernels refuse to autoload that module anymore and you need to load it manually or via any init file.

http://subforge.org/ezfaq/show/subtle?faq_id=27

So you need to add snd_mixer_oss to modules in /etc/rc.conf  and install alsa-oss(?).

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#257 2011-10-17 15:45:26

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Re: subtle - another tiling window manager

sudo modprobe snd_mixer_oss
just that and a subtle reload should do it

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#258 2011-10-17 15:55:32

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Re: subtle - another tiling window manager

Unia wrote:

Another question I couldn't find the answer to yet: is it possible to have, for example, a terminal open on any view, but not in stick mode? So if I open one on view 1, it stays there, - and if I open another one on view 3, that one spawns there?

Sorry, got no notification about a new entry here, You can do that with tagging, but that is usually a problem for many users. So did you try the launcher? http://subforge.org/projects/subtle-con … i/Launcher

With it, you can open your terminal like:

urxvt @viewname

and it tags the client appropriate. There are several other things the launcher can do. wink

coldflame23 wrote:

So you need to add snd_mixer_oss to modules in /etc/rc.conf  and install alsa-oss(?).

Yep, there is no other way to access the mixer without a fuc^Wgreat async library.

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#259 2011-10-29 12:58:19

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Re: subtle - another tiling window manager

Hmm , anyone experiencing views bug in 64 bit ?

All my views icon does not change color sad It stays default black while I commented a color code for it in subtle.rb

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#260 2011-10-29 13:05:10

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Re: subtle - another tiling window manager

WilleoSoeurs wrote:

Hmm , anyone experiencing views bug in 64 bit ?

All my views icon does not change color sad It stays default black while I commented a color code for it in subtle.rb

Did you recently upgraded? The icon color is now an own style property, because it is more logical that way, see here: http://subforge.org/projects/subtle/wiki/Styles#Icon

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#261 2011-10-29 13:23:08

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Re: subtle - another tiling window manager

unexist wrote:
WilleoSoeurs wrote:

Hmm , anyone experiencing views bug in 64 bit ?

All my views icon does not change color sad It stays default black while I commented a color code for it in subtle.rb

Did you recently upgraded? The icon color is now an own style property, because it is more logical that way, see here: http://subforge.org/projects/subtle/wiki/Styles#Icon

Ahh ok smile Ive changed the unoccupied color , but what about the occupied ones ?

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#262 2011-10-29 13:25:32

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Re: subtle - another tiling window manager

WilleoSoeurs wrote:

Ahh ok smile Ive changed the unoccupied color , but what about the occupied ones ?

Either set the color of the icons in :all/:views on in occupied and unoccupied.

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#263 2011-10-29 13:33:14

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Re: subtle - another tiling window manager

unexist wrote:
WilleoSoeurs wrote:

Ahh ok smile Ive changed the unoccupied color , but what about the occupied ones ?

Either set the color of the icons in :all/:views on in occupied and unoccupied.

Sorry for being a noob in configs tongue

Is it like this :

style :occupied do
  padding     2, 8, 0, 8
  #border_bottom "#424242", 2
  icon "#0aa2c9"
  border_top "#222222", 2
  border_bottom "#222222", 4
  foreground  "#0aa2c9"
  background  "#222222"
end

?

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#264 2011-10-29 13:37:51

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Re: subtle - another tiling window manager

WilleoSoeurs wrote:

Sorry for being a noob in configs tongue

Is it like this :

style :occupied do
  padding     2, 8, 0, 8
  #border_bottom "#424242", 2
  icon "#0aa2c9"
  border_top "#222222", 2
  border_bottom "#222222", 4
  foreground  "#0aa2c9"
  background  "#222222"
end
?

I don't know what you want to do, generally when you your occupied views and unoccupied differs just by e.g. one color you can set the values in the :views style and both inherit from it. That way you just need to configure the difference, like in this example:

style :views do
  padding 2, 8, 0, 8
  border_top "#222222", 2

  style :occupied do
    icon "#ff0000"
  end

  style :unoccupied do
    icon "#0000ff"
  end
end

That way both occupied and unoccupied have the same values but the icon color, that is red for occupied and blue for unoccupied.

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#265 2011-10-29 13:53:43

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Re: subtle - another tiling window manager

unexist wrote:
WilleoSoeurs wrote:

Sorry for being a noob in configs tongue

Is it like this :

style :occupied do
  padding     2, 8, 0, 8
  #border_bottom "#424242", 2
  icon "#0aa2c9"
  border_top "#222222", 2
  border_bottom "#222222", 4
  foreground  "#0aa2c9"
  background  "#222222"
end
?

I don't know what you want to do, generally when you your occupied views and unoccupied differs just by e.g. one color you can set the values in the :views style and both inherit from it. That way you just need to configure the difference, like in this example:

style :views do
  padding 2, 8, 0, 8
  border_top "#222222", 2

  style :occupied do
    icon "#ff0000"
  end

  style :unoccupied do
    icon "#0000ff"
  end
end

That way both occupied and unoccupied have the same values but the icon color, that is red for occupied and blue for unoccupied.

Ahh ok , big_smile Thanks alot

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#266 2011-10-29 14:00:06

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Re: subtle - another tiling window manager

WilleoSoeurs wrote:

Ahh ok , big_smile Thanks alot

Heh yw. wink

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#267 2011-11-06 17:40:22

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Big fan of Subtle! Keep up the awesome work unexist!

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#268 2011-11-06 17:41:36

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Re: subtle - another tiling window manager

Xyzodiac wrote:

Big fan of Subtle! Keep up the awesome work unexist!

Thanks I will, maybe one day you won't leave #subtle before I am awake. big_smile

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#269 2011-11-09 15:19:47

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Re: subtle - another tiling window manager

unexist wrote:
Xyzodiac wrote:

Big fan of Subtle! Keep up the awesome work unexist!

Thanks I will, maybe one day you won't leave #subtle before I am awake. big_smile

Maybe! haha.

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#270 2011-11-09 16:26:16

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Re: subtle - another tiling window manager

Having an error when executing subtle yikes

Cannot connect to display 0,0

Any fix ?

EDIT : Error occurs with the latest ruby version 1.9.3_p0-1

Last edited by WilleoSoeurs (2011-11-09 16:33:58)

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#271 2011-11-16 23:01:00

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Re: subtle - another tiling window manager

Hello!

I was upset by the fact, that Subtle had no completions for Z Shell (zsh), so I decided to correct the situation. Here's my small contribution to Subtle: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=54047

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#272 2011-11-16 23:12:30

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Re: subtle - another tiling window manager

WilleoSoeurs wrote:

Having an error when executing subtle yikes

Cannot connect to display 0,0

Any fix ?

EDIT : Error occurs with the latest ruby version 1.9.3_p0-1

Yep, reinstall subtle. Happens with the update from ruby 1.9.2 to 1.9.3.

kyrylo wrote:

I was upset by the fact, that Subtle had no completions for Z Shell (zsh), so I decided to correct the situation.

Awesome!

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#273 2011-11-18 19:33:52

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Re: subtle - another tiling window manager

I love subtle - very fluid workflow for me - thank you unexist.

I did find a bug related to :wmname, looks like an issue upstream. When in use the bookmark widget in chromium is behind the window or just blank - most likely the latter.

Is there a possible workaround?  It's not a big deal, I only use one java app  but it would be nice to eliminate an extra step.

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#274 2011-11-18 19:48:14

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Re: subtle - another tiling window manager

echo.unity wrote:

I love subtle - very fluid workflow for me - thank you unexist.

Yw smile

echo.unity wrote:

I did find a bug related to :wmname, looks like an issue upstream. When in use the bookmark widget in chromium is behind the window or just blank - most likely the latter.

Is there a possible workaround?  It's not a big deal, I only use one java app  but it would be nice to eliminate an extra step.

Hum, what bookmark widget? Can you paste me the xprop output, when you click on that window?

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#275 2011-11-18 20:12:49

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Re: subtle - another tiling window manager

unexist wrote:
echo.unity wrote:

I love subtle - very fluid workflow for me - thank you unexist.

Yw smile

echo.unity wrote:

I did find a bug related to :wmname, looks like an issue upstream. When in use the bookmark widget in chromium is behind the window or just blank - most likely the latter.

Is there a possible workaround?  It's not a big deal, I only use one java app  but it would be nice to eliminate an extra step.

Hum, what bookmark widget? Can you paste me the xprop output, when you click on that window?

Well not the widget per-say , it's the window that pops up after you add the bookmark within chromium (from there you select which folder to add it to and or remove).

This issue here: https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/25952
And here: http://wmfs.info/issues/92

Seems like the issue is most likely is how wmname interacts with chromium or vice-vesa. (as you can tell the issue is tiling specific)

Other then that - subtle is a great project - keep up the good work.

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