subtle - another tiling window manager

aleks223 · 2011-01-24 14:17:36

Mhh have a look at the modified wiki page for the selector and update subtle-contrib if you encounter bugs with it...

unexist · 2011-01-25 17:05:43

unexist wrote:

irtigor wrote:
There is a easy way to implement GridSelect(xmonad)/Expo(compiz) or Greader(g+u)? Something to show all opened windows and jump to a selected one with h/j/k/l+enter.
I just added selector to subtle-contrib, which works similar to the subscription dialog in Google Reader. This needs the latest devel version. (subtle >= 0.9.2576)

I commited a new version of the selector, it's now a bit easier to use.

irtigor · 2011-01-25 22:36:59

I'm a little busy these days, so I can't test... You are doing a great work, subtle is awesome

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I did not expect an answer so quickly, thanks!

unexist · 2011-01-25 23:29:32

irtigor wrote:

I'm a little busy these days, so I can't test... You are doing a great work, subtle is awesome
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I did not expect an answer so quickly, thanks!

Thanks! Actually this wasn't much work, I just had to add one method to subtlext and write a bit code.

ScottKidder · 2011-01-26 05:52:30

Looks great! I'm currently using xmonad and very happy with it, but I think I'm going to give this a shot! I'll be reporting back soonish.

unexist · 2011-01-26 11:50:30

ScottKidder wrote:

Looks great! I'm currently using xmonad and very happy with it, but I think I'm going to give this a shot! I'll be reporting back soonish.

You are welcome, but remember that subtle is different.

skwid · 2011-01-27 16:59:42

Ive been rocking Subtle for a little bit now and I really like it but I do have some trouble getting some simple tags to work... For example,
How would I get VirtualBox and all the VM's to display on a certain view?

unexist · 2011-01-27 17:30:26

skwid wrote:

How would I get VirtualBox and all the VM's to display on a certain view?

First you need to get WM_NAME, WM_CLASS, WM_ROLE or something else to identify a window and then create a tag for that. The easiest way is to use subtler -cl and you get a listing like this:

 0x240012c - 4    0 x   23 + 1676 + 1023       center ---- Qt-subapplication (VirtualBox)
 0xa0002b - 4    0 x   23 + 1676 + 1023       center ---- chrome (Chrome)
 0xc00009 * 4 1680 x   23 +  836 + 509      top_left ---- urxvt1 (URxvt)
 0xe00009 * 4 1680 x  537 +  836 + 509   bottom_left ---- urxvt2 (URxvt)
 0x1a00003 - 4    0 x   23 + 1670 + 1008       center ---~ gvim (Gvim)
 0x1c00002 * 4 2537 x   96 +  800 + 800        center -^-- Xephyr (Xephyr)
 0x2e0018b - 4    4 x   27 +  720 + 451        center -^-- Qt-subapplication (VirtualBox)

This list contains lots of fields, the interesting ones are the last two: Both together are the WM_CLASS, the one before the brackets is the instance part and the one inside of the brackets is the class part. In this case the class part is the best way to match them:

tag "virtualbox" do
  match "virtualbox"
end

This will create a basic tag that matches all windows that either have 'virtualbox' as instance or class part of WM_CLASS. You can verify the tags e.g. with subtler -cXG and click on a window.

Next you need to apply this tag to a view in order to see the windows there:

view "vbox", "virtualbox"

And then you are done. When you edit the config make sure to check the syntax with subtle -k before reloading.

bootleg · 2011-01-27 17:33:13

You tag all vm’s with a tag ("vm" for example), then you apply this tag to only one view. Something like that.

Last edited by bootleg (2011-01-27 17:33:41)

skwid · 2011-01-27 17:37:34

unexist wrote:

skwid wrote:
How would I get VirtualBox and all the VM's to display on a certain view?
First you need to get WM_NAME, WM_CLASS, WM_ROLE or something else to identify a window and then create a tag for that. The easiest way is to use subtler -cl and you get a listing like this:
 0x240012c - 4    0 x   23 + 1676 + 1023       center ---- Qt-subapplication (VirtualBox)
 0xa0002b - 4    0 x   23 + 1676 + 1023       center ---- chrome (Chrome)
 0xc00009 * 4 1680 x   23 +  836 + 509      top_left ---- urxvt1 (URxvt)
 0xe00009 * 4 1680 x  537 +  836 + 509   bottom_left ---- urxvt2 (URxvt)
 0x1a00003 - 4    0 x   23 + 1670 + 1008       center ---~ gvim (Gvim)
 0x1c00002 * 4 2537 x   96 +  800 + 800        center -^-- Xephyr (Xephyr)
 0x2e0018b - 4    4 x   27 +  720 + 451        center -^-- Qt-subapplication (VirtualBox)
This list contains lots of fields, the interesting ones are the last two: Both together are the WM_CLASS, the one before the brackets is the instance part and the one inside of the brackets is the class part. In this case the class part is the best way to match them:
tag "virtualbox" do
  match "virtualbox"
end
This will create a basic tag that matches all windows that either have 'virtualbox' as instance or class part of WM_CLASS. You can verify the tags e.g. with subtler -cXG and click on a window.
Next you need to apply this tag to a view in order to see the windows there:
view "vbox", "virtualbox"
And then you are done. When you edit the config make sure to check the syntax with subtle -k before reloading.

Thanks for the quick reply but that's exactly what I am doing. Weird that it's not working for me though.

EDIT...

But to clear things up at bit, I've been using this method for all my apps, but VirtualBox is just one that I've run accross that I can't get to act like the rest.

Last edited by skwid (2011-01-27 17:39:05)

unexist · 2011-01-27 19:01:00

skwid wrote:

But to clear things up at bit, I've been using this method for all my apps, but VirtualBox is just one that I've run accross that I can't get to act like the rest.

Since you don't respond in IRC, can you post your config? I just tried that and it worked flawlessly.

unexist · 2011-02-01 22:58:18

There were problems with the stable release of subtle in community, it lacked support for xft, xpm, xrandr and xinerama. This is fixed now, sorry and thanks.

Last edited by unexist (2011-02-01 23:11:27)

awfulrofl · 2011-02-09 18:19:23

Just started using subtle and i have to say i'm pretty impressed. Coming from using awesome and scrotwm usually, the manual feel took a little bit getting used to, but after using the keypad to move around was second nature and honestly i love it. the mpd and volume sublets are fantastic, so basically just posting to say thanks and good work! I've got a lot of work ahead of me to get the colors and tags set up to my liking but that's linux and another story.

unexist · 2011-02-09 20:27:09

awfulrofl wrote:

Just started using subtle and i have to say i'm pretty impressed. Coming from using awesome and scrotwm usually, the manual feel took a little bit getting used to, but after using the keypad to move around was second nature and honestly i love it. the mpd and volume sublets are fantastic, so basically just posting to say thanks and good work! I've got a lot of work ahead of me to get the colors and tags set up to my liking but that's linux and another story.

Yw and thanks. Another thing many users have problems with is the mandatory tagging, I never understand that.

Btw: In subtle-contrib there is a styler to ease the work with the colors. It just needs ruby/gtk2.

awfulrofl · 2011-02-09 22:55:28

Checked out styler after you posted it, definitely cool. I think i'm all set now, i'll post up a screenshot later of my setup!

unexist · 2011-02-09 23:59:01

Ah nice, make sure to post it to both threads, the february and the subtle screenshot thread.

aleks223 · 2011-02-14 15:11:03

New sublet : gmail e-mail checker, light and pretty useful...

unexist · 2011-02-19 14:19:34

Useful for gmail accounts.

unexist · 2011-03-19 18:22:25

lutherus wrote:

i have.
this is my subtle.rb
http://pastebin.com/3apNf08a
i added them in panel and in the sublets section

Hum, looks fine for me. Any errors on the tty where you start subtle? Some of the sublets need a configuration like the gmail sublet. Also you are using battery twice in your panels.

The output of

sur list

lists all the sublets properly?

lutherus · 2011-03-19 22:44:30

here it is

sudo sur list
Password: 
1 clock (0.33) [0.33 installed]
   Show the clock and date
   #Icon #Config
2 wifi (0.5) [0.5 installed]
   Show the link quality of a wifi device
   #Socket #Proc #Icon #Config
3 battery (0.6) [0.6 installed]
   Show the battery state
   #Sys #Icon #Config
4 gmail (0.3) [0.3 installed]
   Gmail unread messages checker
   #Mail
5 mpd (0.46) [0.46 installed]
   Show the current track of mpd and some controls
   #Socket #Icon #Config #Format
6 cpu (0.3) [0.3 installed]
   Show the cpu usage
   #Proc #Multicore #Icon
 ~ >

sorry if i`m late with the output,was playing pathfinder

unexist · 2011-03-19 23:03:59

lutherus wrote:

sorry if i`m late with the output,was playing pathfinder

No problem, but why did you install sublets as root? sur installs the sublets into the home (~/.local/share/subtle/sublets) of the current user.

lutherus · 2011-03-19 23:11:00

oh.then it`s my bad.
i thought that i muss install them as sudo

unexist · 2011-03-19 23:28:08

lutherus wrote:

oh.then it`s my bad.
i thought that i muss install them as sudo

Nope, subtle uses the path provided by the XDG specs and uses proper defaults when nothing is set. sur was designed to work inside of your home.

lutherus · 2011-03-19 23:32:41

nice.
subtle is awesome.the more i use it,the more i love it

nexus7 · 2011-03-20 12:27:11

Hi all!

Playing with subtle, and loving it!
But there's still something basic I haven't found out:

(1) How do I shift a program from one view to another? (s.th. like W-S-2 seems not to be meant to do this...)

(2) Actually the wallpaper is displayed on view 1 (via feh) only. How can it be displayed on all views --- or even better

(3) How can I display a different wallpaper on each view?

thanks very much

Arch Linux

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