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#1 2009-05-26 05:13:46

yingwuzhao
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warning in updaing Arch today: my local version of oss is newer

Here is what it said:
warning: oss: local (4.1_1052-1) is newer than community (4.1_1052b-1)

Strange?? right? Can someone shed some light on this issue? Thanks a lot!

root /home/kevin #  pacman -Syu
:: Synchronizing package databases...
 core is up to date
 extra                    385.2K  313.6K/s 00:00:01 [#########################] 100%
 community                361.9K  316.6K/s 00:00:01 [#########################] 100%
 kdemod-legacy is up to date
:: Starting full system upgrade...
warning: oss: local (4.1_1052-1) is newer than community (4.1_1052b-1)
 local database is up to date

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#2 2009-05-26 05:18:22

karol
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Re: warning in updaing Arch today: my local version of oss is newer

I guess it's from testing, so it's not "official" yet. Nothing to worry about, it's just the way pacman works.

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#3 2009-05-26 05:20:11

Statix
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Re: warning in updaing Arch today: my local version of oss is newer

The problem I see with this is that pacman thinks

4.1_1052-1 > 4.1_1052b-1

To me, a 1052b release would be a later release than 1052. If this is the case then pacman would not update it, which certainly is a problem.


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#4 2009-05-26 05:24:26

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Re: warning in updaing Arch today: my local version of oss is newer

Yes, I've noticed that, but I'm not sure if pacman uses a simple collation or sth else.

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#5 2009-05-26 05:27:29

yingwuzhao
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Re: warning in updaing Arch today: my local version of oss is newer

To me, a 1052b release would be a later release than 1052. If this is the case then pacman would not update it, which certainly is a problem.

That's what I thought! This may be a little problematic!
What shall we do, just wait for the even newer release of OSS? wink

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#6 2009-05-26 05:31:14

Statix
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Re: warning in updaing Arch today: my local version of oss is newer

Hmm.

Can you install it with:

pacman -Sy oss

Last edited by Statix (2009-05-26 05:31:45)


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#7 2009-05-26 05:31:52

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Re: warning in updaing Arch today: my local version of oss is newer

The oss package maintainer should have used the force option when building the package, so someone should post a bug report. In the meantime, you can workaround it by updating that package on its own i.e. pacman -Sy oss.

karol - fyi, community packages are not put through the testing repo.

yingwuzhao - I've removed all the exclamation marks from your thread title because they are unnecessary, and because they annoy me. smile

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#8 2009-05-26 05:31:56

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Re: warning in updaing Arch today: my local version of oss is newer

pacman is just a tool - you're the boss, the power user - you make the choices.
But sb may look into this issue.

tomk wrote:

karol - fyi, community packages are not put through the testing repo.

My bad, you're right; what I meant was when you build sth from ABS or take from testing you get similar errors.

Last edited by karol (2009-05-26 05:35:48)

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#9 2009-05-26 05:48:03

yingwuzhao
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Re: warning in updaing Arch today: my local version of oss is newer

yingwuzhao - I've removed all the exclamation marks from your thread title

I know I am over-exagerating. But is it a plocy of forum that we can't use more than one exlaimations?

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#10 2009-05-26 05:49:43

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Re: warning in updaing Arch today: my local version of oss is newer

It's a question of style :-) Admins are arbiters elegantiarum.

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#11 2009-05-26 05:53:53

yingwuzhao
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Re: warning in updaing Arch today: my local version of oss is newer

yikes:D

Last edited by yingwuzhao (2009-05-26 06:08:30)

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#12 2009-05-26 05:57:48

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Re: warning in updaing Arch today: my local version of oss is newer

yingwuzhao - not a policy, just common sense. I probably wouldn't have done it if I wasn't actually posting in the thread.

Here's a good rule of thumb - exclamation marks are never necessary, not even one.

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#13 2009-05-26 05:58:35

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Re: warning in updaing Arch today: my local version of oss is newer

yingwuzhao wrote:

yingwuzhao - I've removed all the exclamation marks from your thread title

I know I am over-exagerating. But is it a plocy of forum that we can't use more than one exlaimations?

It is now...

Anyway.  According to pacman 1.0a < 1.0alpha < 1.0b < 1.0beta < 1.0p < 1.0pre < 1.0rc < 1.0.  The only way around this is to hard code in things like "alpha", "beta" and make sure when upstream releases as 1.0b they mean b and not beta.

My opinion: People using letters the version "numbers" of their software need to be taken into a dark alley and shot! tongue

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#14 2009-05-26 06:02:44

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Re: warning in updaing Arch today: my local version of oss is newer

Allan wrote:

My opinion: People using letters the version "numbers" of their software need to be taken into a dark alley and shot!

+1. It's a mess.

That's how I thought the versioning worked, although I've missed 'p' & 'pre'.

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#15 2009-05-26 06:06:17

yingwuzhao
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Re: warning in updaing Arch today: my local version of oss is newer

Hey, this may be off-topic, but I am just wondering why do many people hate exclamation marks?

Some culture reason? hmm

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#16 2009-05-26 06:20:17

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Re: warning in updaing Arch today: my local version of oss is newer

Yes, its off-topic. Start a new thread in Off-topic.

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#17 2009-05-26 06:24:14

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Re: warning in updaing Arch today: my local version of oss is newer

Edit - Removed abusive post - Allan

Last edited by Allan (2009-05-26 06:29:23)

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#18 2009-05-26 06:27:10

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Re: warning in updaing Arch today: my local version of oss is newer

troll u.u

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#19 2009-05-26 06:28:46

Allan
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Re: warning in updaing Arch today: my local version of oss is newer

tomk wrote:

Yes, its off-topic. Start a new thread in Off-topic.

He won't get the chance...

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#20 2009-05-26 17:03:13

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Re: warning in updaing Arch today: my local version of oss is newer

karol wrote:
Allan wrote:

My opinion: People using letters the version "numbers" of their software need to be taken into a dark alley and shot!

+1. It's a mess.

That's how I thought the versioning worked, although I've missed 'p' & 'pre'.

Yup, just stumbled upon it too .... the package might as well be called 4.1_1052-2 and it would work just fine I believe.


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