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#26 2009-05-27 22:23:03

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Re: Arch installed - but no sound, no video [Solved]

karol wrote:

Ummm, I know. (Edit wrt your edit: I know what '@' and '!' mean)
What about my second question? -> No log = use a crystal ball, right?

right .
But I'm not sure I understand the relevance . I'm just doing a sort of a parallel boot .


English is not my native language .

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#27 2009-05-27 22:28:11

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Re: Arch installed - but no sound, no video [Solved]

If sth hangs and by some chance syslog-ng gets loaded too slow you won't have a clue what happened. It's a slight chance, I agree, but I don't like taking such chances :-)

@vinoman2
Sorry for hijacking the thread.

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#28 2009-05-27 22:54:23

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Re: Arch installed - but no sound, no video [Solved]

vinoman,

Make sure dbus-core is installed and then restart hal. hal should take care of starting dbus for you, so just make sure you have hal in your DAEMONS array in /etc/rc.conf. You can avoid a reboot by running "/etc/rc.d/hal restart" as root. Assuming hal and dbus start, you can try starting xfce again using the startxfce4 script.

To have X start up on boot, you'll want a display manager (DM). There are a few choices: gdm, kdm, slim, xdm, and entrance. I'd recommend gdm to get started because it is easy to set up and uses the gtk graphics toolkit like xfce does.

There's only a couple steps:
-Install gdm: pacman -S gdm
-Set gdm to run at boot by adding 'gdm' to your DAEMONS array in /etc/rc.conf.
-Instead of rebooting, run from a console (not inside xfce), /etc/rc.d/gdm start
-Select XFCE as your session and type your username and password to log in.

There's a wiki article on setting up a DM: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Add … on_startup

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#29 2009-05-27 23:11:56

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Re: Arch installed - but no sound, no video [Solved]

karol wrote:

Please tell us what have 'pacman -Qs dbus' and 'pacman -Qs ^hal' shown you. Posting your rc.conf could also help.

I will have to type it. I can't email anything from Arch until I can get Xfce running.

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#30 2009-05-27 23:16:45

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Re: Arch installed - but no sound, no video [Solved]

here's:
# pacman -Qs dbus:
local/dbus-core 1.2.14-1 (base)
Freedesktop.org message bus system
local/dbus 0.80-1
Glib bindings for DBUS

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#31 2009-05-27 23:21:20

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Re: Arch installed - but no sound, no video [Solved]

here's the other:
#pacman -Qs ^hal
local/hal0.5.12git20090421.4fc367-2
Hardware Abstraction Layer
local/hal-info 0.20090414-1
Hardware Abstraction Layer Informatioin Files

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#32 2009-05-27 23:24:57

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Re: Arch installed - but no sound, no video [Solved]

OK, now check if you have HAL in your DAEMONS array and follow dmartins' advice.

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#33 2009-05-27 23:35:21

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Re: Arch installed - but no sound, no video [Solved]

dmartins wrote:

vinoman,

Make sure dbus-core is installed and then restart hal. hal should take care of starting dbus for you, so just make sure you have hal in your DAEMONS array in /etc/rc.conf. You can avoid a reboot by running "/etc/rc.d/hal restart" as root. Assuming hal and dbus start, you can try starting xfce again using the startxfce4 script.

To have X start up on boot, you'll want a display manager (DM). There are a few choices: gdm, kdm, slim, xdm, and entrance. I'd recommend gdm to get started because it is easy to set up and uses the gtk graphics toolkit like xfce does.

There's only a couple steps:
-Install gdm: pacman -S gdm
-Set gdm to run at boot by adding 'gdm' to your DAEMONS array in /etc/rc.conf.
-Instead of rebooting, run from a console (not inside xfce), /etc/rc.d/gdm start
-Select XFCE as your session and type your username and password to log in.

There's a wiki article on setting up a DM: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Add … on_startup

Dan,

I installed gdm then was able to bring up the Xfce prompt, but I still get this message:

Unable to contact settings server
Failed execute dbus-launch
to auto launch D-Bus session

What file needs to be adjusted? Now when I go back to login I can't get to the old prompt, I'm in a little white terminal in the lower right-hand corner.
sad

Last edited by vinoman2 (2009-05-27 23:43:43)

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#34 2009-05-27 23:39:51

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Re: Arch installed - but no sound, no video [Solved]

In /etc/rc.conf

Nezmer wrote:

You should have something like :
DAEMONS=(@syslog-ng @network @crond @netfs hal @fam)

It may look a bit different on you system, the important question is do you have hal listed there? If no, put it there: open that file in a text editor and add "hal" (w/o the quotes). Restart the computer and try 'startx' again.

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#35 2009-05-27 23:44:33

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Re: Arch installed - but no sound, no video [Solved]

karol wrote:

In /etc/rc.conf

Nezmer wrote:

You should have something like :
DAEMONS=(@syslog-ng @network @crond @netfs hal @fam)

It may look a bit different on you system, the important question is do you have hal listed there? If no, put it there: open that file in a text editor and add "hal" (w/o the quotes). Restart the computer and try 'startx' again.

hal is listed as @hal

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#36 2009-05-28 01:15:12

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Re: Arch installed - but no sound, no video [Solved]

The version number you've posted for dbus does not match the current version. Actually, it matches the version number for dbus-glib (and so does the description below it) so I'm guessing it's actually dbus-glib you have installed and not dbus. Make sure you have dbus installed and then restart hal:

pacman -S dbus

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#37 2009-05-28 01:48:23

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Re: Arch installed - but no sound, no video [Solved]

After I reinstalled dbus and did:
# /etc/rc.d/hal start
Starting Hardware Abstractioin Layer    [Fail]

in the /rc.d  file, hal is listed as: @hal . Maybe I don't need the @ sign in front of it.?

Now what can I do ?

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#38 2009-05-28 02:25:54

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Re: Arch installed - but no sound, no video [Solved]

You don't NEED the @ sign in front of any of the daemons. All it does is make the startup scripts move on to the next daemon before hal has fully started (It can help speed up your boot time in some cases). I'd suggest removing the @ from all daemons until things are working correctly.

Are you sure hal was stopped first? I get the 'FAIL' message if I try to start hal a second time.

If it's just not starting, you'll need to check some of the log files in /var/log for error messages. Definitely check daemon.log and everything.log. It wouldn't hurt to have a look in some of the others too. You can use the tail command to view just the end of the log file if you want.

If you don't see anything, you can make hal log more information by editing /etc/rc.d/hal (make a copy of the file first):
-Look for the line :

/usr/sbin/hald

Change it to:

/usr/sbin/hald --verbose=yes --use-syslog

Now try restarting hal and checking your log again.

Last edited by dmartins (2009-05-28 02:29:37)

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#39 2009-05-28 02:29:31

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Re: Arch installed - but no sound, no video [Solved]

But doesn't the @ sign in fron of hal means that it's runing in the background? So maybe it was running already. i'll reboot and see what happens.

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#40 2009-05-28 02:30:47

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Re: Arch installed - but no sound, no video [Solved]

I just edited my previous post with a small explanation of the @ -- it means hal STARTS in the background. smile

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#41 2009-05-28 02:36:28

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Re: Arch installed - but no sound, no video [Solved]

vinoman2 wrote:

But doesn't the @ sign in fron of hal means that it's runing in the background? So maybe it was running already. i'll reboot and see what happens.

After rebooting this time...Xfce came up! I'm installing Firefox now. I guess hal was running already and dbus had to be reinstalled.
So I think I'm good for now. I noticed that the menus had little x's where there should be another graphic, buttons on the toolbar that are blank. What's missing to cause that?


With pacman: what's the command to show a list of programs to install?

Thanks smile

Last edited by vinoman2 (2009-05-28 02:41:18)

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#42 2009-05-28 02:44:29

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Re: Arch installed - but no sound, no video [Solved]

Good, glad it's working now smile

I suppose pacman -Sl would list all the available packages and pacman -Ss would list them with their short description. It's going to be more than you can scroll back through using a terminal, so pipe the output through 'less' so you can scroll up and down.

pacman -Ss | less

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#43 2009-05-28 02:53:32

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Re: Arch installed - but no sound, no video [Solved]

Thanks again. I;m writing for the first time in Gran Paradiso in Arch!

I tried to install gtk2-themes-collection again and I get:
bash-3.2# pacman -S gtk2-themes-collection
gtk2-themes-collection package not found, searching for group...
error: 'gtk2-themes-collection': not found in sync db
bash-3.2#

Now after installing some other programs like VLC and Abiword, the menu graphics are showing up!

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