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#1 2009-06-10 08:52:21

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#2 2009-06-10 10:51:28

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Re: Kernel 2.6.30 is out

WoW, a load of new Filesystem's, network stack's, yet another security framework and improved boot up with fastboot smile


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#3 2009-06-10 10:53:27

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Re: Kernel 2.6.30 is out

Not really an issue is it? Dumping this in GNU/Linux discussion.


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#4 2009-06-10 11:06:09

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Re: Kernel 2.6.30 is out

Maki wrote:

WoW, a load of new Filesystem's, network stack's, yet another security framework and improved boot up with fastboot smile

WoW?

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#5 2009-06-10 11:14:29

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Re: Kernel 2.6.30 is out

Ranguvar wrote:

WoW?

Yep, the kernel is getting bloated....

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#6 2009-06-10 11:29:33

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Re: Kernel 2.6.30 is out

Allan wrote:
Ranguvar wrote:

WoW?

Yep, the kernel is getting bloated....

well at least it you can turn off all the stuff you don't want smile


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#7 2009-06-10 11:41:14

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Re: Kernel 2.6.30 is out

I've turned it off already ;-)

[combuster@vostro ~]$ uname -a
Arch vostro 2.6.30-DELL #1 SMP PREEMPT Wed Jun 10 13:07:43 CEST 2009 x86_64 
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T5670 @ 1.80GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux

I've tried out turning kms on intel by default and it kinda degraded my performanse (250 fps in glxgears) and it comes up rather late compared to putting intel_agp and i915 in mkinitcpio... Now I've redone my kernel image with mkinitcpio and it's back to normal... So far no problems, me happy big_smile

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#8 2009-06-10 11:42:43

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Re: Kernel 2.6.30 is out

What about KMS, is it gonna be allowed by default in 2.6.30? not sure, but I saw that in 2.6.29 it's not right now.

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#9 2009-06-10 11:53:10

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Re: Kernel 2.6.30 is out

It is allowed by default and it was in 2.6.29 also but u need to compile it with support for that option (2.6.29-ARCH wasn't, dunno why)...

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#10 2009-06-10 11:57:00

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Re: Kernel 2.6.30 is out

I hope it's gonna be reality now, 2.6.30 in Arch KMS default enabled ( hopefully intel GMA965 will be better ). Simply not sure about compiling kernel. hmm

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#11 2009-06-10 12:00:47

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Re: Kernel 2.6.30 is out

Well it's not gonna get better because, as I've said earlier, relying solely on kernel for kms gives performance problems (it degraded glxgears result by 50%)... For now it is still better to manualy load i915 and intel_agp and rebuild the kernel image. But for that matter turning on this option in kernel config is safe...

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#12 2009-06-10 12:02:53

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Re: Kernel 2.6.30 is out

Too bad AMD/ATi Catalyst users still have to wait until someone writes a patch before it can be used.  sad

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#13 2009-06-10 12:13:17

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Re: Kernel 2.6.30 is out

Well it just crossed my mind that turning off kms by default wasnt such a bad move because there are still some people that use EXA instead of UXA, so disabling kms as default untill 2.8.0 intel video driver arrives is smart thing to do... After that I think it will be pointless to do so...

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#14 2009-06-10 12:51:58

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#15 2009-06-10 12:54:40

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Re: Kernel 2.6.30 is out

Still no DVB drivers for my card =Z.


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#16 2009-06-10 20:56:56

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Re: Kernel 2.6.30 is out

It's getting bloated, but initrd.img saves the day smile
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#17 2009-06-11 00:00:46

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Re: Kernel 2.6.30 is out

I can't wait to try this out big_smile


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#18 2009-06-11 02:36:06

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Re: Kernel 2.6.30 is out

I briefly read the changelog in human form available at kernelnewbies.org.

I am curious what's up with the fastboot thing, hehe. That came in 2.6.29 so I am wondering if this update means it is used by default now or if they just made further improvements to it. I guessing further improvement, which would be nice. wink

Other than that, I am not too interested in anything else. I was a bit shocked to see all the new filesystems.

I'll bake 2.6.30 tonight and maybe show a bootchart and maybe some quit benchmarking, but nothing too major.

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#19 2009-06-11 03:07:47

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Re: Kernel 2.6.30 is out

When will it be in the core/testing repository?


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#20 2009-06-11 03:34:19

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Re: Kernel 2.6.30 is out

When it is ready.....    The kernel guy(s) are usually quite good about getting the kernel into [testing] quickly.

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#21 2009-06-11 05:37:07

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Re: Kernel 2.6.30 is out

MilesRdz wrote:

When will it be in the core/testing repository?

Please don't ask such questions... Allan's answer is the only exact answer you'll ever get on this.

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#22 2009-06-11 07:20:34

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Re: Kernel 2.6.30 is out

Well I can say it's very stable... I havent tried out fastboot and I dont have a desire to cause speeding up the boot process didn't brought anything good for me in the past 2-3 months...

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#23 2009-06-11 08:58:04

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Re: Kernel 2.6.30 is out

B wrote:
MilesRdz wrote:

When will it be in the core/testing repository?

Please don't ask such questions... Allan's answer is the only exact answer you'll ever get on this.

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Yes, that was made pretty clear... roll


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#24 2009-06-11 09:44:02

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Re: Kernel 2.6.30 is out

combuster wrote:

It is allowed by default and it was in 2.6.29 also but u need to compile it with support for that option (2.6.29-ARCH wasn't, dunno why)...

uh?

The glxgear non issue http://qa-rockstar.livejournal.com/7869.html

As for KMS not enabled by default, this is true, but you need not recompiling a kernel with whatever options: http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=69083&p=1

Hey, Arch Linux is a nice and simple and easy to use distribution. And I just love KMS, but I tend to reboot my laptop instead of hibernating it.

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#25 2009-06-11 10:35:58

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Re: Kernel 2.6.30 is out

For now it is still better to manualy load i915 and intel_agp and rebuild the kernel image

http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=69083&p=1

Any different???

The glxgear non issue

Yeah I know, but urt is chocking to death with 15fps so I would say that enabling kms as default option in kernel vs loading i915 early goes in favour of the second option for now...

but you need not recompiling a kernel with whatever options

Yes you have to if you want kms enabled natively in kernel, enabling kms afterwards ur just forcing i915 driver to load instead of standard fb driver...

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