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#26 2009-06-11 11:38:10

sand_man
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Re: Kernel 2.6.30 is out

Synss wrote:
combuster wrote:

It is allowed by default and it was in 2.6.29 also but u need to compile it with support for that option (2.6.29-ARCH wasn't, dunno why)...

uh?

The glxgear non issue http://qa-rockstar.livejournal.com/7869.html

As for KMS not enabled by default, this is true, but you need not recompiling a kernel with whatever options: http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=69083&p=1

Hey, Arch Linux is a nice and simple and easy to use distribution. And I just love KMS, but I tend to reboot my laptop instead of hibernating it.

That's why everyone says glxgears is not a good benchmark tool


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#27 2009-06-11 11:48:26

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Re: Kernel 2.6.30 is out

http://cworth.org/intel/driver_stability/ quite interestin reading. Makes me more optimistic, anyway I just found out that even with recent combination kernel 2.6.29, xf86-video-intel 2.7.1, GMA 965 ( X3100 ) is openarena running smooth at 1280x800, KMS not enabled.

To developers: I really appreciate your hard work doing such a great distro. It taught me a lot, not only in linux area. And now my question : Is it possible that new kernel 2.6.30 will have KMS enabled by default? ( I know that currently only intel drivers should able to use it )

Thanks a lot

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#28 2009-06-11 12:28:54

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Re: Kernel 2.6.30 is out

Currently it is optional only for intel drivers (as i recall enable kms by default is an option in menuconfig that relates to intel driver only). I don't think that developers will enable that, not untill 2.6.31 anyway. But I would like to hear their opinion on that. Anyway we will see when 2.6.30 reach core...

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#29 2009-06-11 13:54:53

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Re: Kernel 2.6.30 is out

With the new kernel, my framebuffer console doesn't use the whole screen with KMS.
Some space at the right part and at the bottom (two lines) are not used.

After next reboot everything is well again. And if I reboot again, the problem is back?

< edit/>
Reboot doesn't help anymore.

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#30 2009-06-11 13:59:24

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Re: Kernel 2.6.30 is out

Yeah I've got same problem, 2 lines from the bottom is blank, but thats ql compared to kms being enabled by default in kernel and without loading i915 early, first 4 or 5 lines are garbled totally... Only thing is I always get 2 lines blank, even on restart...

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#31 2009-06-11 15:02:22

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Re: Kernel 2.6.30 is out

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#32 2009-06-11 23:46:32

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Re: Kernel 2.6.30 is out

I'm using UXA and performance is no better, games like ET are still unplayable on X3100 965GM. What's worse the xf86-video-intel 2.8 beta has some serious performance regressions (tried it today) so we can expect even lower performance in yet another driver release.


You need to install an RTFM interface.

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#33 2009-06-12 00:14:13

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Re: Kernel 2.6.30 is out

Happy big_smile in my case everything is working wonderfull, kernel from testing, minimal xorg.conf ( only touchpad related ), xf86-video-intel-newest from AUR, X3100 965GM true combat playable at 1280x800

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#34 2009-06-12 04:45:52

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Re: Kernel 2.6.30 is out

Like another thread that saw, I got a kernel panic on my 32 bit machine. The 64 bit one is happy.

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#35 2009-06-12 13:06:26

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Re: Kernel 2.6.30 is out

error: failed to prepare transaction (could not satisfy dependencies)
:: virtualbox-modules: requires kernel26<2.6.30

hmm

Gotta wait...


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#36 2009-06-12 13:06:51

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Re: Kernel 2.6.30 is out

there is something odd. with this kernel i wanted to test the intel drivers from aur (2.8-RC1) if i recall correctly..... now xorg is ignoring accelmethod. i cant use exa anymore. anyone experiencing this?

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#37 2009-06-12 13:24:13

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Re: Kernel 2.6.30 is out

Is fastboot enabled in the testing package?

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#38 2009-06-12 13:25:37

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Re: Kernel 2.6.30 is out

eldragon wrote:

there is something odd. with this kernel i wanted to test the intel drivers from aur (2.8-RC1) if i recall correctly..... now xorg is ignoring accelmethod. i cant use exa anymore. anyone experiencing this?

http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/x … 45396.html


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#39 2009-06-12 13:30:53

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Re: Kernel 2.6.30 is out

@toad

Weird, my vbox kernel modules compiled without any errors (vbox_build_modules on 2.6.30)...

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#40 2009-06-12 13:32:04

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Re: Kernel 2.6.30 is out

bangkok_manouel wrote:
eldragon wrote:

there is something odd. with this kernel i wanted to test the intel drivers from aur (2.8-RC1) if i recall correctly..... now xorg is ignoring accelmethod. i cant use exa anymore. anyone experiencing this?

http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/x … 45396.html

thanks, now to go and request a patch for mesa wink

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#41 2009-06-12 15:31:06

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Re: Kernel 2.6.30 is out

Allan wrote:
Ranguvar wrote:

WoW?

Yep, the kernel is getting bloated....

Nope. Do you think so, because entire kernel size is bigger then previous one? Your vmlinuz won't be bigger/bloated, because of new file systems (that's great!) or features. You just gained possibility to enable those extras. It will be bloated (however, only for maintainers) if they will add Xen in its current, crappy form. Thankfully Xen devs will bring smarter patches next time.

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#42 2009-06-12 15:39:26

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All design goals must be phrased in such a way that it is hard to use them as slogans to justify stupidity.

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#43 2009-06-12 16:07:14

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Re: Kernel 2.6.30 is out

pawels64 wrote:
Allan wrote:
Ranguvar wrote:

WoW?

Yep, the kernel is getting bloated....

Nope. Do you think so, because entire kernel size is bigger then previous one? Your vmlinuz won't be bigger/bloated, because of new file systems (that's great!) or features. You just gained possibility to enable those extras. It will be bloated (however, only for maintainers) if they will add Xen in its current, crappy form. Thankfully Xen devs will bring smarter patches next time.

I'm pretty sure that his response was a joke in response to the capitalization of "WoW", implying that World of Warcraft has been included in the kernel.







Is ext4 online defragmentation available yet? I haven't been paying attention to its development (still happily using ext3 here).

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#44 2009-06-12 16:48:38

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Re: Kernel 2.6.30 is out

No ext4 online defragmentation in the kernel yet.

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#45 2009-06-12 17:01:51

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Re: Kernel 2.6.30 is out

toad wrote:
error: failed to prepare transaction (could not satisfy dependencies)
:: virtualbox-modules: requires kernel26<2.6.30

hmm

Gotta wait...

yes. you have to wait until is moved to core. i had prepared the package, if you want i can give you big_smile


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#46 2009-06-12 18:41:38

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Re: Kernel 2.6.30 is out

This kernel have problem with sound: http://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/29569/. On my integrated AC97 sound is skipping both in tremulous and moc when they are run together.

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#47 2009-06-12 19:03:59

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Re: Kernel 2.6.30 is out

Belitsky.A wrote:

This kernel have problem with sound: http://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/29569/. On my integrated AC97 sound is skipping both in tremulous and moc when they are run together.

Same here, really annoying, but I'll be able to live with it until it's fixed (hopefully soon!)

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#48 2009-06-12 20:02:42

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Re: Kernel 2.6.30 is out

first impression - slowdown while copying large files on x86_64 seems to be fixed.

copying a multi gigabyte vm harddisk file doesn't result in any system slowdown at all!

edit: i'm using ext4 on all partitions except /boot

Last edited by schuay (2009-06-12 21:13:11)

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#49 2009-06-12 20:31:52

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Re: Kernel 2.6.30 is out

copying a multi gigabyte vm harddisk file doesn't result in any system slowdown at all!

Users of ext3 should read "Solving the ext3 latency problem". For ext3 'writeback' mode is now default and it works great, but the default scheduler and ext3 in general got some improvements and I can confirm that with 'ordered', it's important to me because in addition I have encrypted file systems. Writeback has more potential to mess your data, especially in case of a system crash - and thanks to the intel driver we have pleanty of those today.
If you don't want to risk it, to switch back to ordered you can set "data=ordered" in fstab for all paritions but the root file system. Because you will end up with your / mounted as read only if you do, for the root fs you can append "rootflags=data=ordered" to the kernel trough your boot loader configuration.


You need to install an RTFM interface.

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#50 2009-06-12 20:32:02

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Re: Kernel 2.6.30 is out

Xyne wrote:

I'm pretty sure that his response was a joke in response to the capitalization of "WoW", implying that World of Warcraft has been included in the kernel.

Right XD. Thanks for pointing this ^^.

@schuay

Great to hear that. While fglrx is no more supported I hope we'll see this kernel soon in stable repo smile

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