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#76 2009-06-29 02:06:58

broch
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Re: Kernel 2.6.30 is out

belbono wrote:

Is there already a explanation or something like that for the xfs freezes during boot?
I´m getting freezes too, because my xfs partition couldn't be found.

One thing: After upgrading to 2.6.30 I was able to boot the machine successfully once. I did only the rebuild on the vbox module. Next day and until now I´m not able to boot up

post debug info, other than that everybody can only quess what is wrong with your installation.

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#77 2009-06-29 08:10:28

belbono
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Re: Kernel 2.6.30 is out

Do you mean these few lines of stack trace I see when the system halted?
Well, the funny thing is: The problem occurs not always. After doing the setup I was able to boot successfully once. Then I got 5 attempts that failed and now I had two that ended up successfully.

How can I get some debug info at this level?

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#78 2009-06-29 12:47:22

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Re: Kernel 2.6.30 is out

/var/log/messages.log
should have all the information regarding failed boot process
you can add also (if debug info is missing from messages.log)
loglevel=7
to the kernel line, this will slowdown booting but should log all events
debug will force logging

eventually run diagnostics on fs

can you post relevant lines from /etc/fstab?

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#79 2009-06-30 21:04:02

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Re: Kernel 2.6.30 is out

There's nothing suspicious in /var/log/messages.log, even with loglevel=7
However I wonder how this kind of error should come into the messages.log, because this file is on my root partition and this is the one that couldn't be found.

Here is the entry from the fstab:

UUID=1aa2c2cb-c839-49a1-ad3d-6f485df8e72d / xfs defaults 0 1

But again, this is also something from my root partition, that isn't available when the error occurs.

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#80 2009-07-01 01:36:10

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Re: Kernel 2.6.30 is out

I don't know how it is possible to help not seeing the error. It might be something before fs, it might be your disk or memory. It can be something entirely different.

What is your hardware/OS configuration

Can you guess what is wrong with my setup?

Hey I need help. My system is crashing".

That is a lot of information provided.

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#81 2009-07-02 10:12:58

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Re: Kernel 2.6.30 is out

Until now I thought there must be someone with the same problem.. but it appears that won't happen. Couldn't find any useful information...

So let's start with the hardware

Board is a Gigabyte 965P DS3 (with Core2 Duo E6300) ATA(?) Controller is JMICRON.
harddisk with root partition is sata disk  (samsung)
root partition is sdb7.
sdb = sdb1, sdb2, sdb3, sdb4 { sdb5, sdb6 sdb7}

Arch is x86_64.

The only suspicious message during boot process is

Driver 'sd' needs updating. Please use bus_type methods

I have the same message with driver 'sr'

Thanks for your efforts. Let me know if you need some more information, I may have forgotten here.

Besides: Is there a option to boot the old fashioned way, like 'fastboot' was available in 2.6.29?

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#82 2009-07-02 15:07:09

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Re: Kernel 2.6.30 is out

o.k.
so this would point to the controler driver not file system.
For some time kernel had some issues with jmicron controler. I don't know if this is reappearing bug or something new.
Maybe search lkml and post the bug over there.

Is there a option to boot the old fashioned way, like 'fastboot' was available in 2.6.29?

to enable this you will need to edit kernel line in grub, otherwise fastboot is available but not enabled.

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#83 2009-07-02 15:31:09

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Re: Kernel 2.6.30 is out

Driver 'sd' needs updating. Please use bus_type methods

This has been fixed in 2.6.31 and is not a big deal (I have seen this error on all distro's since kernel 2.6.18), not something to worry or report about...

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#84 2009-07-02 18:40:23

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Re: Kernel 2.6.30 is out

broch wrote:

Is there a option to boot the old fashioned way, like 'fastboot' was available in 2.6.29?

to enable this you will need to edit kernel line in grub, otherwise fastboot is available but not enabled.

No, I ment is there in kernel 2.6.30 an option like 'slowboot' for telling the kernel that he should boot like he did in 2.6.29?

Alternatively, how can I downgrade to 2.6.29? There isn't a package in most recent pacman this.

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#85 2009-07-02 19:03:45

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Re: Kernel 2.6.30 is out

belbono wrote:

Alternatively, how can I downgrade to 2.6.29? There isn't a package in most recent pacman this.

You can compile it yourself, it is preatty easy smile

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#86 2009-07-02 21:59:58

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Re: Kernel 2.6.30 is out

which doesn't really help me if the problem is in the jmicron driver or related..

I compiled by myself when had gentoo, but until now I was happy with the precompiled kernel. The reason is, that in gentoo I felt some speedup when switching from genkernel to self-compiled. But I didn't experienced any disadvantage when I switched to arch... so just: why should I?

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#87 2009-07-03 02:14:27

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Re: Kernel 2.6.30 is out

To get the old package?

It's a simple affair, we're not talking about re-configuring the kernel, just re-compiling. makepkg -s and a pacman -U and you're done. Click

That said, you can probably find a suitable package here: http://schlunix.org/archlinux/core/os/(i686 or x86_64)

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#88 2009-07-05 18:48:59

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Re: Kernel 2.6.30 is out

Nice.

I was able to download the package for the kernel in version 2.6.29.

The next (and hopefully last) problem is that the nvidia driver 185 needs a kernel version =>2.6.30
I wasn't able to find some packages of the last nvidia driver package that runs under 2.6.29.

Do you know a server where I could find such? (nvidia, nvidia-util)




EDIT: Solved problem with reinstallation. The error was probably in initrd including its configuration, although I never changed anything there...strange..

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#89 2009-07-09 10:59:30

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Re: Kernel 2.6.30 is out

I'm having a really boring problem. I used to play World of Warcraft using wine. Till kernel 2.6.29 and nvidia 180.51 I had no problem at all, game runs fine, everything is ok. With the last update, kernel 2.6.30-5 and 2.6.30.1-1 with nvidia 185.18.14, the game start random 5-seconds freeze when only in certain zone of the map, not always. This is really weird and make the game unplayable when the problem appear. If I downgrade, game runs fine again. I think it's not related with wine because I tried different version with no changes. Now how can I find where the problem is? Kernel? nVidia?

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#90 2009-07-09 13:21:01

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Re: Kernel 2.6.30 is out

run warcraft through wine under terminal and see if any error messages appear

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#91 2009-07-09 17:30:36

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Re: Kernel 2.6.30 is out

combuster wrote:

run warcraft through wine under terminal and see if any error messages appear

Already try, when game freeze no output on console... One thing: whit 2.6.30-5 there was a memory read error when I closed the game and no error appear whit 2.6.30.1. I think it's kernel related but I have no clues... sad

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