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#1 2009-06-25 18:05:42

oib111
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Arch Won't Boot After Kernel Upgrade

I installed Arch on VirtualBox, but after upgrading the Kernel to 2.6.30 it wouldn't boot. It gets to "Loading udev...." and then VirtualBox crashes.

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#2 2009-06-25 18:31:48

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Re: Arch Won't Boot After Kernel Upgrade

oib111 wrote:

I installed Arch on VirtualBox, but after upgrading the Kernel to 2.6.30 it wouldn't boot. It gets to "Loading udev...." and then VirtualBox crashes.

Confirmed. I don't know how to provide more information though.


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#3 2009-06-25 19:50:34

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Re: Arch Won't Boot After Kernel Upgrade

Well, I was wondering for future reference, how would I specify in pacman.conf not to update the kernel? I know I'd have to put something in IgnorePkg or IgnoreGroup, I'm just not sure what.

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#4 2009-06-25 20:11:08

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Re: Arch Won't Boot After Kernel Upgrade

kernel26


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#5 2009-06-25 20:44:10

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Re: Arch Won't Boot After Kernel Upgrade

So IgnorePkg=kernel26?

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#6 2009-06-25 20:51:25

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Re: Arch Won't Boot After Kernel Upgrade

oib111 wrote:

So IgnorePkg=kernel26?

and kernel26-firmware, kernel26-headers (maybe)


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#7 2009-06-25 21:14:56

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Re: Arch Won't Boot After Kernel Upgrade

Ok. I was thinking there was more than just kerenl26.

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#8 2009-06-25 21:22:21

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Re: Arch Won't Boot After Kernel Upgrade

Yep, I noticed the same problem: "Loading udev", then *BAM*, death.


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#9 2009-06-25 22:07:59

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Re: Arch Won't Boot After Kernel Upgrade

Good to hear. Well no, but I mean it's good to know that it's not just me.

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#10 2009-06-26 01:05:30

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Re: Arch Won't Boot After Kernel Upgrade

http://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/2149

If you view the log you probably have this error.

EDIT: I'm attempting to downgrade my installation to 2.6.29 via livecd. It's complicated by the fact mine was a fresh FTP installation so I don't have to old kernel package on disk.

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#11 2009-06-26 14:09:37

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Re: Arch Won't Boot After Kernel Upgrade

So I've successfully downgraded my virtualbox installation to 2.6.29, seems to be running well.

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#12 2009-06-28 16:01:41

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Re: Arch Won't Boot After Kernel Upgrade

Heh. i've been changing various things, and all of a sudden I got it working.
relevant properties:
ich ac97 host controller
NAT networking
pcnet fast III NIC
intel vt/amd thingie enabled
acpi and apic disabled.

Oh please give this thread a more discriptive title (eg mention virtualbox in it ..)

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#13 2009-06-28 20:56:40

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Re: Arch Won't Boot After Kernel Upgrade

Same problem here. Any workarounds? Tried Dieter@be configs but it's still crashing.
What packages should I ignore in a new system install (first -Syu update)?

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#14 2009-06-28 21:44:59

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Re: Arch Won't Boot After Kernel Upgrade

YoungGods wrote:

Same problem here. Any workarounds? Tried Dieter@be configs but it's still crashing.
What packages should I ignore in a new system install (first -Syu update)?

kernel26 and kernel26-firmware I'd say.


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#15 2009-06-28 22:49:51

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Re: Arch Won't Boot After Kernel Upgrade

arkham wrote:

kernel26 and kernel26-firmware I'd say.

IgnorePkg=kernel26 kernel26-firmware
pacman -Syu
Reboot and everything seems to be ok.

Thanks,

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#16 2009-07-07 00:31:17

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Re: Arch Won't Boot After Kernel Upgrade

Hello, I'm having this same problem, except I'm not using VirtualBox or VMWare, I have Arch installed to the hard drive. It worked fine after upgrading to 2.6.30, but after upgrading kernel-headers to 2.6.30.1-1, neither Arch NOR Arch-Fallback will boot! I don't even get to Udev or the part where the two arch logos are on top. It just starts up a little bit, then restarts my computer.

I don't even know if my system has been wiped or something, but I doubt that; I think it's just the booting process. I do have a 2009.2 Live CD, but it's an FTP installation. Is there any way to start up my live CD and do a pacman -U for the old kernel version with the cache on my hard drive? How would I do this?

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#17 2009-07-07 14:46:39

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Re: Arch Won't Boot After Kernel Upgrade

I am so happy I kept a custom 2.6.26 kernel, it saved my ass...

apparently no news upstream sad
http://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/2149
http://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic. … 43&start=0

Edit : a custom 2.6.30.1 works fine too (minimal config, no initrd)

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#18 2009-07-07 20:02:45

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Re: Arch Won't Boot After Kernel Upgrade

I'm also having the same problem... What if I were to rollback to a previous kernel version by booting the live cd and doing:

# mount /dev/sda2 /mnt
# chroot /mnt
# cd /var/cache/pacman/pkg
# pacman -U kernel26-2.6.30-5-i686.pkg.tar.gz

By doing that, will the older kernel get installed?

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#19 2009-07-07 20:10:26

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Re: Arch Won't Boot After Kernel Upgrade

milasch wrote:

I'm also having the same problem... What if I were to rollback to a previous kernel version by booting the live cd and doing:

# mount /dev/sda2 /mnt
# chroot /mnt
# cd /var/cache/pacman/pkg
# pacman -U kernel26-2.6.30-5-i686.pkg.tar.gz

By doing that, will the older kernel get installed?

Answering my question, it does not work.

Could anyone explain how to downgrade Arch Linux kernel?

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#20 2009-07-07 20:24:02

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Re: Arch Won't Boot After Kernel Upgrade

That actually worked perfectly for me.  But don't downgrade to a 2.6.30 kernel - that kernel version is the cause of the problem.  Downgrade to 2.6.29 or something.  (Available from http://www.schlunix.org/archlinux/core/ … kg.tar.gz)

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#21 2009-07-07 20:25:58

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Re: Arch Won't Boot After Kernel Upgrade

darose wrote:

That actually worked perfectly for me.  But don't downgrade to a 2.6.30 kernel - that kernel version is the cause of the problem.  Downgrade to 2.6.29 or something.  (Available from http://www.schlunix.org/archlinux/core/ … kg.tar.gz)

Yup! It really worked on 2.6.29... Got my virtual machine back. big_smile

thanks

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#22 2009-07-07 20:34:29

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Re: Arch Won't Boot After Kernel Upgrade

Perhaps the procedures given in wiki "kernel panics" will enable the correct method of downgrading (or re-installing a given kernel).

It permits mkinitcpio to be exercised automatically when downgrading or re-installing the kernel.

The wiki utilizes the live CD with 'root" log-in and #arch as the first items to enter.  The remaining steps allow chroot and pacman -U is used to install desired elements.

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#23 2009-07-23 02:47:51

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Re: Arch Won't Boot After Kernel Upgrade

Just tried this again, it it still doesn't work, anybody got any idea how to upgrade?

Other packages are starting to rely on the newer kernel so Ignoring kernel26 doesn't seem to be the optimal solution anymore.

Anybody tried VirtualBox 3?  Does that help?

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#24 2009-07-29 19:06:17

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Re: Arch Won't Boot After Kernel Upgrade

I tried IgnorePkg kernel26, and pacman wants to uprade kernel-headers.  Is it necessary that these remain the same version?

If I ignore both kernel26 and kernel-headers, there are cascading dependencies (i.e. glibc needs the newer headers, and binutils requires the newer glibc, and so no).  So ignoring kernel-headers does not seem to be an option.

I wanted to ask here before I get kernel26 and kernel-headers out of sync with one another.  Is it safe?  Thanks,

-Dave


Here are the versions I'm dealing with:
warning: kernel-headers: ignoring package upgrade (2.6.29.3-1 => 2.6.30.1-1)
warning: kernel26: ignoring package upgrade (2.6.29.4-1 => 2.6.30.2-1)

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#25 2009-07-29 23:23:23

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Re: Arch Won't Boot After Kernel Upgrade

I've let the headers get upgraded but kept on the previous kernel and
it has been fine.  I don't build any modules custom modules, etc so YMMV.

Answering my own question above; upgrading Virtual Box to version 3
doesn't help.

I haven't tried it but someone else did and reported (on a thread in
the virtualbox forums) that the same thing happened.

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