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DevoidOfWindows

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Re: Firefox 3.5 released

Does anyone know of a way of enabling TraceMonkey on Arch64? A patch to backport, or config option?

Why wait?  Why not just compile a bin32-firefox-pgo?

Last edited by DevoidOfWindows (2009-07-02 04:33:28)

droog

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Re: Firefox 3.5 released

Does anyone know of a way of enabling TraceMonkey on Arch64? A patch to backport, or config option?
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have to change javascript.options.jit.content to true in about:config, but looks like its not fully supported for 64 yet.

skottish

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Re: Firefox 3.5 released

And while I am a big fan of non-patented standards, etc., Ogg Theora is... well... not good, not even decent. Compared to x264-encoded H.264, it's a step back a couple decades (two, to be exact).

...snip...

No doubt. I wonder if the Mozilla people actually fell for the Vorbis/Theora patent free bit or if they came to their senses and decided not to care?

Anyway, this release does feel somewhat quicker, but more importantly to me, it feels a lot more fluid.

Ranguvar

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Re: Firefox 3.5 released

Does anyone know of a way of enabling TraceMonkey on Arch64? A patch to backport, or config option?

Why wait?  Why not just compile a bin32-firefox-pgo?

Because I like my 64-bit browser with its 64-bit plugins, I don't want a crapload more 32-bit libs on my system, and I find major applications being bin32- creates problems more often than not. I knew I could use a bin32

have to change javascript.options.jit.content to true in about:config, but looks like its not fully supported for 64 yet.

I had that set to true by default, but I had javascript.options.jit.chrome (which controls using TraceMonkey for Firefox itself (basically), not the pages) set to false (I then made it true).
Don't know TraceMonkey is on or off, really, I have to do some tests. It does feel faster than FF 3.0, but I'm sure TraceMonkey isn't the only speed improvement.

No doubt. I wonder if the Mozilla people actually fell for the Vorbis/Theora patent free bit or if they came to their senses and decided not to care?

Came to their senses? Not trying to derail the thread, but I believe pushing like this for non-patented software is a great idea (and may encourage more unpatented R&D). I was just trying to contribute to general knowledge about video codecs And yeah, they chose Theora because it was unpatented. They might have run into trouble using a patented codec, maybe not, but the main reason was no patents for Theora (though as I've said, this isn't 100% certain, unlike MPEG-1). Oh, and by the way, Vorbis kicks ass (really). HE-AACv2 can beat it, but only at reeeaaally low bitrates. Otherwise, Vorbis is top dog for lossy audio.
http://www.0xdeadbeef.com/weblog/?p=977

R00KIE

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Re: Firefox 3.5 released

This is what the wiki says about tracemonkey https://wiki.mozilla.org/JavaScript:TraceMonkey

In my case javascript.options.jit.chrome is set to false (default value) and javascript.options.jit.content is set to true (default value) so I guess tracemonkey is enabled for pages rendering (unless something fails and it falls back to the older method).

Edit:
I forgot to say but FF3.5 does feel more fluid and pages do seem to "hang" less, this on x86_64.

Last edited by R00KIE (2009-07-02 08:11:04)

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marconato

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Re: Firefox 3.5 released

Hi, today I updated my laptop and I saw that firefox 3.5 was present! My system is an x86_64..Everything went fine during the update, but now I can start firefox only as root.
If I try as my user, it doesn't gives no output from the terminal...
I guess could be a problem with permissions, do you have any idea??

Thanks a lot

graysky

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Re: Firefox 3.5 released

@marconato - can you post your /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist for me?  I just updated and didn't pull down the 3.5 package at all yet it is present on the arch package search:

http://www.archlinux.org/packages/?arch … =&limit=50

x86_64      Extra      firefox-i18n      3.5-1      Language packs for Firefox      jgc      2009-07-01
x86_64     Extra     firefox     3.5-1     Standalone web browser from mozilla.org     jgc     2009-07-01
x86_64     Extra     totem-plugin     2.26.3-1     Totem mozilla/firefox plugin     Orphan     2009-07-01

EDIT: nevermind... dunno what the problem was w/ it but after changing servers I have a whole lot of packages to update suddenly!

Targets (67): apr-1.3.5-1  readline-6.0.00-1  unixodbc-2.2.14-2  apr-util-1.3.7-1  bash-4.0.024-1  
              bash-completion-1.0-2  brasero-2.26.3-1  cairo-1.8.8-1  gnome-keyring-2.26.3-1  
              sqlite3-3.6.15-2  heimdal-1.2.1-5  libgcrypt-1.4.4-2  gnutls-2.8.1-1  libxml2-2.7.3-2  
              libsoup-2.26.3-1  libgweather-2.26.2.1-1  evolution-data-server-2.26.3-1  
              gnome-desktop-2.26.3-1  cheese-2.26.3-1  device-mapper-1.02.32-2  python-2.6.2-3  
              libxt-1.0.6-1  xulrunner-1.9.1-1  epiphany-2.26.3-1  evolution-exchange-2.26.3-1  
              firefox-3.5-1  jack-audio-connection-kit-0.116.2-2  fluidsynth-1.0.9-1  
              gcalctool-5.26.3-1  gedit-2.26.3-1  gnome-menus-2.26.2-1  libwnck-2.26.2-1  
              gnome-panel-2.26.3-1  gucharmap-2.26.3.1-1  gnome-applets-2.26.3-1  guile-1.8.6-2  
              gnome-games-2.26.3-1  gnome-mag-0.15.7-1  gnome-python-extras-2.25.3-2  
              gnome-session-2.26.2-1  gnome-terminal-2.26.3.1-1  gnome-themes-2.26.3.1-1  gnupg-1.4.9-4  
              gnupg2-2.0.12-1  gphoto2-2.4.5-2  gtkhtml-3.26.3-1  hamster-applet-2.26.3-1  
              libepc-0.3.10-1  libthai-0.1.12-1  libxaw-1.0.6-1  lua-5.1.4-4  lvm2-2.02.47-2  
              mkvtoolnix-2.9.7-1  mousetweaks-2.26.3-1  ntp-4.2.4p7-3  openjdk6-1.5-3  orca-2.26.3-1  
              pango-1.24.4-1  parted-1.8.8-3  postgresql-libs-8.3.7-2  qt-4.5.2-1  ruby-1.8.7_p173-2  
              smbclient-3.3.6-2  totem-2.26.3-1  wpa_supplicant-0.6.9-2  xz-utils-4.999.8beta-4  
              yelp-2.26.0-3  

Total Download Size:    259.57 MB
Total Installed Size:   791.96 MB

Last edited by graysky (2009-07-03 10:38:25)

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marconato

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Re: Firefox 3.5 released

I was using the swiss repo I think. After that, I changed to a french one, and I got a big list of updates, but not as yours..
What repo are you using?

graysky

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Re: Firefox 3.5 released

For me firefox (I use 3.6.a1pre) is even faster than uzbl and midori at sunspider benchmark

firefox-hg-pgo:
Total:                 2194.8ms +/- 5.7%
uzbl:
Total:                 2428.0ms +/- 2.0%
midori:
Total:                 2297.8ms +/- 2.6%

SIC!

CPU is Xeon X3360 @ 8.5x400=3.40 GHz
Arch x64_86
Firefox 3.0.11 (Sunspider 0.9) Total: 2515.6ms +/- 7.5%
Firefox 3.5 (Sunspider 0.9) Total: 2279.4ms +/- 5.1%

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graysky

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Re: Firefox 3.5 released

I was using the swiss repo I think. After that, I changed to a french one, and I got a big list of updates, but not as yours..
What repo are you using?

$ cat /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist
# Server list generated by rankmirrors on 2009-07-03
# United States
Server = http://mirror.cs.vt.edu/pub/ArchLinux/$repo/os/x86_64
Server = http://mirrors.easynews.com/linux/archlinux/$repo/os/x86_64
Server = http://mirror.umoss.org/archlinux/$repo/os/x86_64
Server = http://www.gtlib.gatech.edu/pub/linux/distributions/archlinux/$repo/os/x86_64
Server = http://mirror.archlinux.com.ve/$repo/os/x86_64
Server = ftp://ftp.archlinux.org/$repo/os/x86_64

Don't forget to do a pacman -Syy when you modify this file.

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tyr0

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Re: Firefox 3.5 released

What about firefox 3.5 in the i686 repo?

graysky

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Re: Firefox 3.5 released

What about firefox 3.5 in the i686 repo?

No offense, but did you even bother searching for this before posting?

http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=75238

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tyr0

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Re: Firefox 3.5 released

Haha, I am in a hurry and yes i used the forum search, maybe I should visit the oculist. But thank you.

DevoidOfWindows

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Re: Firefox 3.5 released

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RESULTS (means and 95% confidence intervals)
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Total:                 2133.0ms +/- 1.3%
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  3d:                   285.2ms +/- 4.7%
    cube:                90.2ms +/- 7.0%
    morph:               63.2ms +/- 2.6%
    raytrace:           131.8ms +/- 6.6%

  access:               293.0ms +/- 2.7%
    binary-trees:        84.2ms +/- 10.9%
    fannkuch:           123.6ms +/- 3.7%
    nbody:               62.4ms +/- 4.8%
    nsieve:              22.8ms +/- 8.1%

  bitops:                60.0ms +/- 2.9%
    3bit-bits-in-byte:    2.0ms +/- 0.0%
    bits-in-byte:        10.8ms +/- 5.1%
    bitwise-and:          2.8ms +/- 19.9%
    nsieve-bits:         44.4ms +/- 4.2%

  controlflow:           74.0ms +/- 3.4%
    recursive:           74.0ms +/- 3.4%

  crypto:               109.6ms +/- 3.7%
    aes:                 63.4ms +/- 7.4%
    md5:                 30.8ms +/- 5.3%
    sha1:                15.4ms +/- 4.4%

  date:                 279.8ms +/- 3.4%
    format-tofte:       150.4ms +/- 6.2%
    format-xparb:       129.4ms +/- 2.6%

  math:                 117.0ms +/- 13.1%
    cordic:              71.8ms +/- 16.7%
    partial-sums:        31.8ms +/- 12.2%
    spectral-norm:       13.4ms +/- 5.1%

  regexp:               170.0ms +/- 12.2%
    dna:                170.0ms +/- 12.2%

  string:               744.4ms +/- 5.8%
    base64:              33.8ms +/- 3.1%
    fasta:              163.2ms +/- 15.2%
    tagcloud:           204.0ms +/- 7.4%
    unpack-code:        269.2ms +/- 19.1%
    validate-input:      74.2ms +/- 8.5%

PGO:  Compiling...

Last edited by DevoidOfWindows (2009-07-03 17:43:30)

kazuo

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Re: Firefox 3.5 released

User of 64 bits vote for this bug
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=489146
To enable TM on 64 bits systems

Thanks

Ranguvar

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Re: Firefox 3.5 released

Voted.

peabrain

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Re: Firefox 3.5 released

Edit: Never mind. It seems to be a GTK issue.
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Anybody know why FF stopped noting Alt Gr (after update, that is)? For example: I have to press Alt Gr + 8 to get [ but FF doesn't respond in any way.

In other apps things work fine.

Last edited by peabrain (2009-07-09 15:24:51)