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#1 2009-07-18 10:50:29

M1ND
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is it the maximum?

Hello guys,

I got this system:

ntel Montevina Core2Duo T5800 (2x 2GHz 2MB Cache)
3GB DDRII
NVIDIA GeForce 8200M (1MB bis 758MB)

but when i play game it laggs alot and the grapics arent so nice... heres an image:
http://adire.ad.funpic.de/Bildschirmfoto.png Edit: no large images - Allan

WHat im doing wrong? Is that the maximum whcih i can handle with that system? I mean the grapicscard is a dx10 card:O


cheers

Last edited by Allan (2009-07-18 10:53:18)

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#2 2009-07-18 16:15:50

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Re: is it the maximum?

How many FPS can it produce, how big resolution, what's in your xorg.conf and xorg.log? Which driver/kernel do you use? which version ? what's in the syslog ? Is it a problem with another game too ? what's the output of free and top while gaming ?

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#3 2009-07-19 12:30:50

M1ND
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Re: is it the maximum?

Hello,

Thanks for your answer:

9-13fps

1280x800
xorg.conf:

Section "ServerLayout"
    Identifier     "X.org Configured"
    Screen      0  "Screen0" 0 0
    InputDevice    "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
    InputDevice    "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection

Section "Files"
    ModulePath   "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
    FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/misc"
    FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi:unscaled"
    FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi:unscaled"
    FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/TTF"
    FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/Type1"
EndSection

Section "Module"
    Load  "extmod"
    Load  "dri2"
    Load  "glx"
    Load  "record"
    Load  "dri"
    Load  "dbe"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier  "Keyboard0"
    Driver      "kbd"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier  "Mouse0"
    Driver      "mouse"
    Option        "Protocol" "auto"
    Option        "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
    Option        "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
    Identifier   "Monitor0"
    VendorName   "Monitor Vendor"
    ModelName    "Monitor Model"
EndSection

Section "Device"
    Identifier  "Card0"
    Driver      "nvidia"
    VendorName  "nVidia Corporation"
    BoardName   "GeForce 9200M G"
    BusID       "PCI:2:0:0"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
    Identifier "Screen0"
    Device     "Card0"
    Monitor    "Monitor0"
    SubSection "Display"
        Viewport   0 0
        Depth     1
    EndSubSection
    SubSection "Display"
        Viewport   0 0
        Depth     4
    EndSubSection
    SubSection "Display"
        Viewport   0 0
        Depth     8
    EndSubSection
    SubSection "Display"
        Viewport   0 0
        Depth     15
    EndSubSection
    SubSection "Display"
        Viewport   0 0
        Depth     16
    EndSubSection
    SubSection "Display"
        Viewport   0 0
        Depth     24
    EndSubSection
EndSection

xorg.log - no such file
wher can i see the driver / kernel version?
Syslog? I got about 10 syslog files. Which one do u mean?:P
I dont know if its a problem with other games...i just got this wink

My graphicscard takes the ram for the graphic from the ram of the PC. I heard , that the bios handles that at the boottime that linux later can't write in this RAM which the graphiccard takes. Is that correct?:P maybe is htere a problem big_smile

bcz wow is a very old game. I can play it on my main PC with my 7600GT withouth problems on the highest resolution and stuff.

cheers

Last edited by M1ND (2009-07-19 12:40:28)

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#4 2009-07-19 13:02:33

whoops
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Re: is it the maximum?

Just to make sure: You are aware that a 7600GT is a LOT faster than 8200M, right?

Afaik 8200 is a very low end graphics card when it comes to 3d / gaming... its optimizations are almost entirely focused on playing video etc.

Last edited by whoops (2009-07-19 13:03:19)

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#5 2009-07-19 13:59:46

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Re: is it the maximum?

Another thing to be aware of: WoW always looks like shit wink .

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#6 2009-07-19 14:06:38

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Re: is it the maximum?

And composite is not enabled in your xorg configuration.


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#7 2009-07-19 14:16:34

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Re: is it the maximum?

Composite will probably only make performance worse. You don't need that for WoW do you?

An 8200 is a budget chip, so don't expect much. Your CPU is a budget CPU too (albeit not Celeron level, it's not like a top class Core 2 Duo - the T7x00 line). Furthermore, if your GPU has no dedicated RAM, that only slows it down more.

Did I mention laptops aren't made for gaming either?


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#8 2009-07-19 14:32:11

M1ND
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Re: is it the maximum?

My main goal isnt to game with my laptop;) I bought it for programming ( c++ ). But its sometimes nice to lie in ur bad, relaxing and raid a bit smile

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#9 2009-07-19 14:54:58

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Re: is it the maximum?

M1ND wrote:

My main goal isnt to game with my laptop;) I bought it for programming ( c++ ). But its sometimes nice to lie in ur bad, relaxing and raid a bit smile

Find other ways to relax ? More relaxing ways ? tongue


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#10 2009-07-19 15:27:03

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Re: is it the maximum?

Try to run game with -opengl parameter?

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#11 2009-07-20 15:48:31

M1ND
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Re: is it the maximum?

I always run it with -opengl:)

But why the fuck is it a directX10 card but it cant even handle a "low" graphics directX9 game...

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#12 2009-07-20 16:09:13

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Re: is it the maximum?

DX10 and DX9 are irrelevant, you're running on -opengl. Anyway, just cos a game uses DX10/DX9 doesn't say anything about the graphical complexity of the game. DX10 just has more/newer functions, you could write a 2D tetris game in DX10 and it wouldn't even need any hardware acceleration.

Like the rest said, the 8200 is VERY low-end in terms of 3D graphics. I have a slightly better one here, 9300 (the first number is just the series, which keeps going up over time, the SECOND one is the one that indicates how 'good' your card is, my old 6600 outperforms my 9300 by an order of magnitude at least), but I still wouldn't want to play WOW on it. WC3 and HOMM5 work fine, though. With your 8200.... doubt there's many 3D games you can play.


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#13 2009-07-26 16:04:47

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Re: is it the maximum?

1. Gaming laptop is an OXYMORON.  -  main reason - COOLING, Laptops lack sufficient cooling to push the envelope.  Always have, always will.

2. Your video card is akin to a Prius car.  It's good for everyday economical use.(Think 2D)  Will it ever be able to compete with a Mustang(8800GT), a Dodge Challenger(GTX260) or a Corvette(GTX295)? NO.  It was not made for that.     

3. Laptops with the same or equivalent hardware as desktops do not perform as well. See #1 for why.

4. Secondary reason a gaming laptop is oxymoron.  You can't upgrade your laptop's video card.  In the few rare cases you can.  The video upgrade is so expensive, it is a total waste of money.

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#14 2009-07-26 22:13:09

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Re: is it the maximum?

Newer cards allways have problem with old directX, for example, geforce mx400 is faster for directx7 than 5200, but slower for directx8 than 5200 is.

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