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Xav

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Registered: 2009-07-30

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Strange LXDE dependencies?

Hi guys,

I'm a long-term KDE user and would like to give LXDE a shot...
The (great, BTW!) Archlinux Wiki tells me light-heartedly to remove fam to install gamin. However, I have quite some software that depends on fam (gnome-vfs,libgnome,gtk-qt-engine,sbackup,...) Even stranger, the wiki suggests to install the file manager pcmanfm - which himself depends on fam!

Is the wiki simply out of date? Or can someone please explain all of that to me?
Thanks in advance, Xav

(If it should matter, I use KDEmod 4.2.4, Shaman 1.09, pacman 3.2.2, lxde 0.4.2, fam 2.7.0-14, ...anything else?)

djszapi

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Registered: 2009-06-14

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Re: Strange LXDE dependencies?

Welcome to the forum Xav!

Yeah, wiki pages cna be out of date too, like packages in AUR, forum solution on BBS, bugreports on bugs site.

If you can find a working solution, you can correct the wikipage if that's error-prone.

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Army

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Registered: 2007-12-07

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Re: Strange LXDE dependencies?

Remove fam with

pacman -Rd fam

and after that install gamin with

pacman --asdeps -S gamin

(asdeps means as dependency, because fam was installed as dependency as well, so gamin should as well)

Xyne

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Registered: 2008-08-03

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Re: Strange LXDE dependencies?

If you look at the package information of gamin (pacman -Si gamin), you'll see that it provides "fam". This should mean that it works as a drop-in replacement for fam and will satisfy all fam dependencies, both formally for pacman and practically for applications which use it.

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Rasi

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Re: Strange LXDE dependencies?

also a simple pacman -S gamin will also work, pacman will ask if it should replace fam.

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mandog

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Registered: 2008-09-17

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Re: Strange LXDE dependencies?

yes gamin is a replacement for fam and does a much better job on my machine and only runs when req.

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djszapi

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Re: Strange LXDE dependencies?

Hello XAV!

http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/FAM
http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Gamin

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Xav

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Registered: 2009-07-30

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Re: Strange LXDE dependencies?

Hi guys,
and thanks for all the quick answers!
Yes, I got that gamin is supposed to replace FAM. I just wasn't sure that it actually would, because shaman looked like it would first of all erase all the fam-dependent packages... at least for new users, that does look a bit frightening!
I will update the wiki pages so it becomes a little clearer that (at least with the methods you posted above) that is not the case...
Regards

chender

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Registered: 2008-11-24

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Re: Strange LXDE dependencies?

I just moved to lxde, and in that exercise moved to gamin and removed fam.  No issues. 

Also pcmanfm does not depend on fam.  It is a superfast file manager too.

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